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10/22/2004 12:05:19 AM · #26 |
We're trying to approve them as fast as we can!
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10/22/2004 12:05:20 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by shutterstock:
Hi - This is Jon - Founder of ShutterStock and ShutterStock-Submit.
Glad you guys are enjoying the site. If you have any questions - feel free to ask.
Jon |
Hi Jon, hope you are enjoying this site too!
One of my cameras takes a 1600 x 1200 pixel image, which is 1.92 MP. Can we upsample the images slightly to meet the size requirement so long as it still meets image quality standards?
Do you want objects on a pure white background?
Do you have any shape/aspect ratio requirements, or just consider the total pixel count?
What type images do your want most right now? |
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10/22/2004 12:09:36 AM · #28 |
We are trying to keep everything at least 2MP.. but since you are really close to that, you can upsample slightly to meet the 2MP min.
We just consider total pixel count to reach the 2MP.
Images with released models usually sell the most - although, you can check the top100 link to see exactly what people are searching for - and downloading.
Jon
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10/22/2004 12:13:17 AM · #29 |
I also want to note we implemented the removal of photos -- if at any time you want to have any of your approved photos removed, you can just delete them from the approved photos section!
We implemented this today to aleiviate concern over the control of your images. Under no circumstances will we sell your photos without you wanting us to.. Now you can remove them at any point.
Jon
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10/22/2004 12:45:58 AM · #30 |
I'm trying to prep a couple of new images to try out the site. When you say "no embedded copyright" do you mean a visible notice on the photo, or the notice which Photoshop attaches when you fill out the "File Info" fields? And can you parse keywords from any of those fields?
If we have an image which is "borderline" as far as your guidelines, is there a way to have you check it out before we make it an "official" submission. An example would be this image for which I do not have a release, but also believe is sufficiently non-identifiable to be OK, but recognize that opinions vary.
Can we clone out trademarks where they are not significant elements? What about bits and pieces? For example, I have a closeup of a seagull sitting atop a McDonald's arch, only a small bit of which shows, but might still be recognized by a lot of people.
Sorry to be such a pest, but my specialty is thinking up oddball circumstances like this : ) |
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10/22/2004 12:59:20 AM · #31 |
I had one rejected that was less identifiable than that so you should probalby keep it...
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10/22/2004 01:09:35 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I had one rejected that was less identifiable than that so you should probalby keep it... |
Thanks ... I think I'm going to end up "keeping" nearly all my images : ) |
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10/22/2004 01:34:04 AM · #33 |
I just uploaded some photos for approval that I had previously uploaded to another site - it came back that two were less than 2MB ( the other two I not sure if they are up for review or rejected). I checked the photo data, and by pixels they were large enough, yet the overall size was far less than 2 MB. Is this from cropping?
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10/22/2004 02:13:52 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by BJ:
I just uploaded some photos for approval that I had previously uploaded to another site - it came back that two were less than 2MB ( the other two I not sure if they are up for review or rejected). I checked the photo data, and by pixels they were large enough, yet the overall size was far less than 2 MB. Is this from cropping? |
Maybe you're confusing MB with MP? mega(bytes/pixels). Megabytes is a measurement of how much space it requires for the computer to store the image file, while megapixels is the number of pixels in the image (width X height). |
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10/22/2004 06:15:06 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by BJ:
I just uploaded some photos for approval that I had previously uploaded to another site - it came back that two were less than 2MB ( the other two I not sure if they are up for review or rejected). I checked the photo data, and by pixels they were large enough, yet the overall size was far less than 2 MB. Is this from cropping? |
I wonder if you had the same problem as i had. I tried to upload them with the fancy activex uploader (where you see the thumbnails of the images then click 'upload'.... up to 8 at a time). When they were uploaded half of them displayed that they were under 2MP, yet they were in actuallity over 4 or 5 or in some cases 6 MP. i think there is something wrong with the activex uploader. there is a link on the bottom of the page to upload the old fashioned way, and it works good.
Also the thumbnails that were shown for the 'images under 2mb' were the wrong thumbnails. They were the thumbnails of the images that it said WERE over 2mb, so there was repeat thumbnails... yeah.. hm... i am sure this is confusing... anyhow.. basically it didn't work.
-all my images were well over 2mb
-half of my images were rejected
-in the enter description, keywords page, the wrong thumbnail was shown for the rejected images.
-i uploaded the rejected images again using the 'old fashioned' uploader
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10/22/2004 08:56:59 AM · #36 |
yeah something is definitely wrong with that activeX uploader. i started noticing the same thing. my first 2 batches of 8 photos each went through without a hitch... then after that they were starting to get messed up. only half show up, and half show up as being "too small".
regardless, i still got a bunch of shots up there pretty quick. i hope to have most of my stuff online within a few more days :)
also on the releases... i uploaded a few pics that i have on both istock and dreamstime (pics that are selling), and shutterstock said they were too recognizable... there were no faces or identifiable marks in them at all, and istock accepted them, so i figured these guys would too. looks like if you have any people pics, they're most likely gonna require a release.
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10/22/2004 11:03:08 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by shutterstock:
We are trying to keep everything at least 2MP.. but since you are really close to that, you can upsample slightly to meet the 2MP min.
We just consider total pixel count to reach the 2MP.
Images with released models usually sell the most - although, you can check the top100 link to see exactly what people are searching for - and downloading.
Jon |
Anybody have a template for a model release that I can use?
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10/22/2004 11:20:23 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Anybody have a template for a model release that I can use? |
We have them here: //submit.shutterstock.com/legal.mhtml
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10/22/2004 11:22:47 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
The business model is interesting. i'm assuming they're banking on it the same way services like netflix do. people pay the price per month and think "oh boy i'm gonna download everything..." and they do, for a short time... then after they get tired of it they have downloaded more than they need, and the company recoups the original losses... which seems to work for netflix.
the other side too is that for 90 dollars, an advertising company or something like that, can get unlimited downloads of high quality images.. some months they may need more, some months less.
It seems pretty decent so far, would be cool to see if it takes off. |
One thing we need to keep in perspective - they only pay out after we have accumulated $100 in sales. As the site grows our chances of selling 500 pictures diminishes because the competitive number of available photos works against us, so the site can grow in sales volume but the payout to photographers can shrink in proportion. With this business model there will always be a high number photographers who make sales to the benefit of the site but never recieve any compensation for themselves. |
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10/22/2004 11:29:39 AM · #40 |
Hi Trekker - any sales that benefit the site will benefit the user- as those photos they joined for will be downloaded - and they can take the entire set of outtakes.
Also - going forward - as the site grows, we will be able to increase the charge to our customers, and then increase payout to our photographers.
If in the future you aren't making money like you were in the beginning, you are free to remove all of your photos! It is to our advantage to try to keep you though - so if the payout isn't keeping our photographers, we will increase the price to clients, and then increase payout to photographers.
Jon Oringer
ShutterStock.com |
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10/22/2004 11:36:48 AM · #41 |
First of all, thanks for taking the time to address the questions here on the board and in the e-mails I sent you, Jon...
Is there any way to see how many times an image has been downloaded, like on istockphoto? I would like to know how much traffic the site is getting at this point and in the future...
For example, how many times has the top photo been downloaded? |
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10/22/2004 11:48:12 AM · #42 |
> For example, how many times has the top photo been downloaded?
This is something we have been meaning to do.
My developer is swamped..
It's on the list though.
Thanks,
Jon
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10/22/2004 12:08:10 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by shutterstock:
> For example, how many times has the top photo been downloaded?
This is something we have been meaning to do.
My developer is swamped..
It's on the list though.
Thanks,
Jon |
I think you need your own message forum in the photographers area of the site as well. Then you can address issues from the photographers more directly.
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10/22/2004 12:37:52 PM · #44 |
We are on that also!
stay tuned :)
Jon
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10/22/2004 01:11:06 PM · #45 |
| I am living in Germany, and would love to start contributunng. Has anyone got any ideas /experience in overseas payments. Is it a problem. Can I cash a cheque out of America? |
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10/22/2004 02:05:54 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by aKiwi:
I am living in Germany, and would love to start contributunng. Has anyone got any ideas /experience in overseas payments. Is it a problem. Can I cash a cheque out of America? |
You probably have to ask your bank that question. In general it shouldn't be a problem.
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10/22/2004 02:11:10 PM · #47 |
is anyone here making any money off ShutterShot yet?
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10/22/2004 02:21:24 PM · #48 |
ShutterStock Submit has its own forum now - feel free to ask detailed questions there!
//submit.shutterstock.com/forum/
Jon
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10/22/2004 03:00:52 PM · #49 |
The site looks pretty cool so I signed up too. I'll upload some photos when I get back in town. In the meantime, make sure you all click on "My Account" after you register. There is a default YES listed next to "receive email from partners". If you don't want that, you have to change it to NO yourself and save the changes! Just FYI
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10/22/2004 04:43:25 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by shutterstock:
Hi Trekker - any sales that benefit the site will benefit the user- as those photos they joined for will be downloaded - and they can take the entire set of outtakes.
Also - going forward - as the site grows, we will be able to increase the charge to our customers, and then increase payout to our photographers.
If in the future you aren't making money like you were in the beginning, you are free to remove all of your photos! It is to our advantage to try to keep you though - so if the payout isn't keeping our photographers, we will increase the price to clients, and then increase payout to photographers.
Jon Oringer
ShutterStock.com |
Hi Jon,
It seems to me that the best answer would be for you to "clear your books" of all the accrued money owed photographers or artists on a periodic basis - even if the period is once a quarter or twice a year (in addition to the monthly payout for sums greater than $100). And certainly, if a photographer or artist withdraws from the site, he/she should receive compensation for the work that did sell if the total is less than $100. |
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