Middle Class Tax Cuts - DPChallenge Forums

09/25/2004 12:26:58 PM · #2

Guess what? Three quarters of all these "middle class" tax cuts go to the rich, too. Oh yeah, plus trillion more for corporate welfare.

Start counting your pennies, and watch your children's trillions in debt grow.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

09/25/2004 12:30:57 PM · #3

W.R.Miller

Canon EOS-50D

09/25/2004 12:53:55 PM · #4

Originally posted by ericlimon:

What a cutie!

09/25/2004 12:54:19 PM · #5

Originally posted by ericlimon:

Hi! I interrupt other peoples conversations, in order to make the forum a better place :)

09/25/2004 01:02:26 PM · #6

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Originally posted by ericlimon:

Hi! I interrupt other peoples conversations, in order to make the forum a better place :)

Hi! I spew political opinions and cause anguish between people with opposing views in order to make the forums a better place!

frychikn

Olympus C-5050Z

09/25/2004 01:15:11 PM · #7

09/25/2004 03:39:29 PM · #8

Originally posted by ericlimon:

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Originally posted by ericlimon:

Hi! I interrupt other peoples conversations, in order to make the forum a better place :)

Hi! I spew political opinions and cause anguish between people with opposing views in order to make the forums a better place!

If you don't want to participate in the political discussions in the Rant section of the photography section - then don't. Nobody is bending your arm.

But what you are doing is a deliberate campaign of disruption, of sabotage. Your message with your pictures is: "I don't like your conversations, so I will disrupt them with an irrelevant picture".

Translation: I don't value your opinions or your right to express them, so I will interrupt them.

You are acting like a child who doesn't want anybody to enjoy themselves, if they can't too.

If you have a point to make to me or any of the other "opinion spewers" about our political opinions or our tactics - then make them and try to improve the discussion.

If you only have the energy or heart to passively insult us , why not save your energy, stop reading the rant political threads, and go take some pictures?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

09/25/2004 03:41:15 PM · #9

PaulMdx

Canon EOS-1D

09/25/2004 05:25:39 PM · #10

Originally posted by Jacko:

Interesting photo. You seen Donnie Darko?

LoudDog

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

09/25/2004 10:43:12 PM · #11

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Originally posted by ericlimon:

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Originally posted by ericlimon:

Hi! I interrupt other peoples conversations, in order to make the forum a better place :)

Hi! I spew political opinions and cause anguish between people with opposing views in order to make the forums a better place!

If you don't want to participate in the political discussions in the Rant section of the photography section - then don't. Nobody is bending your arm.

But what you are doing is a deliberate campaign of disruption, of sabotage. Your message with your pictures is: "I don't like your conversations, so I will disrupt them with an irrelevant picture".

Translation: I don't value your opinions or your right to express them, so I will interrupt them.

You are acting like a child who doesn't want anybody to enjoy themselves, if they can't too.

If you have a point to make to me or any of the other "opinion spewers" about our political opinions or our tactics - then make them and try to improve the discussion.

If you only have the energy or heart to passively insult us , why not save your energy, stop reading the rant political threads, and go take some pictures?

09/25/2004 10:57:17 PM · #12

Originally posted by Jacko:

frychikn

Olympus C-5050Z

09/25/2004 11:26:46 PM · #13

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Looks like the little drummer boy got all bent out of shape over somebody exercising their right of free speech.

09/25/2004 11:36:55 PM · #14

Originally posted by frychikn:

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Originally posted by ericlimon:

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Originally posted by ericlimon:

Hi! I interrupt other peoples conversations, in order to make the forum a better place :)

Hi! I spew political opinions and cause anguish between people with opposing views in order to make the forums a better place!

If you don't want to participate in the political discussions in the Rant section of the photography section - then don't. Nobody is bending your arm.

But what you are doing is a deliberate campaign of disruption, of sabotage. Your message with your pictures is: "I don't like your conversations, so I will disrupt them with an irrelevant picture".

Translation: I don't value your opinions or your right to express them, so I will interrupt them.

You are acting like a child who doesn't want anybody to enjoy themselves, if they can't too.

If you have a point to make to me or any of the other "opinion spewers" about our political opinions or our tactics - then make them and try to improve the discussion.

If you only have the energy or heart to passively insult us , why not save your energy, stop reading the rant political threads, and go take some pictures?

Looks like the little drummer boy got all bent out of shape over somebody exercising their right of free speech.

09/26/2004 12:42:38 AM · #15

from the daily kos:

The last 30 days provided us with two signature moments that really epitomize the unrelenting desire of the Republican Party to destroy the middle class of this country. First, in late August, the Bush Labor Department torched 60 years of overtime law to enact the biggest middle-class pay cut in American history. And now, in late September, the Republican Congress -- unsatisfied with merely slashing workers' pay -- has raised taxes on the poorest working Americans.*

Congressional negotiators beat back efforts yesterday to expand and preserve tax refunds for poor families, even as they added $13 billion in corporate tax breaks to a package of middle-class tax cuts that could come to a vote in the Senate today.
. . .
"I am continually astounded that some members of Congress don't understand how challenging it is to raise a family in today's economy," [Blanche] Lincoln protested. "While the cost of everything from milk to laundry detergent continues to rise, tax relief for low-income working families decreases."

These lucky duckies who Tom DeLay and Trent Lott -- two men who never saw a millionaire's loophole they didn't fight to preserve -- saw fit to confiscate wages from? They're the millions of Americans who work full-time for minimum wage. $5.15 an hour. They're the folks of whom Jesse Jackson once said,

They catch the early bus. They work every day. They raise other people's children. They work every day. They clean the streets. They work every day. They change the beds you slept in in these hotels last night and can't get a union contract. They work every day. They work in hospitals. I know they do. They wipe the bodies of those who are sick with fever and pain. They empty their bedpans. They clean out their commode. No job is beneath them, and yet when they get sick, they cannot lie in the bed they made up every day.

So after taking away overtime pay from the people who relied on it to pay for school supplies, the Republicans this week went for the kill. They took away the one piece of tax relief aimed at America's working poor. They raised taxes on the janitors, orderlies, and food workers who make the nation run. The Republican Party raised taxes on the hardest-working Americans, and they didn't bat an eyelash.

That's today's Republican Party in a nutshell, summed up by their own terrible deeds in one terrible month. That's why we fight.

09/26/2004 12:46:23 AM · #16

Originally posted by frychikn:

I support free speech rights - even when people use it to stifle conversation.

That doesn't make a concerted effort to drown out political discussion threads the right thing to do, and is not exactly a demonstration of the concept of the preservation of "free speech".

Grow up.

frychikn

Olympus C-5050Z

09/26/2004 10:46:23 AM · #17

09/26/2004 11:00:57 AM · #18

I love it! So beautiful.

Originally posted by frychikn:

09/26/2004 11:18:32 AM · #19

It is election time.

Thelsel posts on on a tax bill, purporting to be important for the middle class.

I respond with info on how it is NOT truly aimed at the middle class.

Some might find this to be useful information, and at least worthy of discussion.

You guys can't get your heads out of the toilet. :(

Tell me, is this how Republicans win the war of ideas these days?

09/26/2004 11:19:32 AM · #20

I'm a canadian.

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

09/26/2004 11:21:39 AM · #21

Cause I notice that you don't try to berate the conservative posts on politics here, just those from the left.

You guys should call yourselves the "DPC Brownshirts".

Pretty pathetic in my book.

09/26/2004 11:23:06 AM · #22

Originally posted by Jacko:

I'm a canadian.

What exactly is your point, then?

Congrats, BTW, on your new camera.

Message edited by author 2004-09-26 11:23:47.

RonB

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

09/26/2004 11:30:54 AM · #23

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Please, please, provide the "proof" that these statements are true. Show

1) show proof that the updated overtime law actually amounted to the "biggest middle-class pay cut in American history", or that Republicans took "overtime pay from the people who relied on it to pay for school supplies". Not "predictions", "conclusions" or "projections" made BEFORE implementation - real proof of the ACTUAL impact AFTER implementation.

2) show proof that the Republicans "raised taxes on the janitors, orderlies, and food workers who make the nation run". Show us the new tax rates that were passed so that we can verify that they will be higher than the current rates.

Ron

Message edited by author 2004-09-26 11:38:19.

09/26/2004 11:53:17 AM · #24

Somehow assuming that the peeps like me who post images in political threads are Republicans. I'm neither. Yeah, great cam :)

Originally posted by gingerbaker:

Originally posted by Jacko:
I'm a canadian.

What exactly is your point, then?

Congrats, BTW, on your new camera.