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09/23/2004 12:36:00 PM · #1 |
Greetings...
"TerraSurfer II"
I am trying to simulate push (film) processing with a digital image. If this was a scanned film image, would you believe that it had been push processed?
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09/23/2004 12:45:00 PM · #2 |
It does have some unique qualities to it. The grain definately suggest push processing. The contrast is bumped up. There is a loss of detail in the blacks and the whites. All of these things are things that happen when you push. So I would say you are getting close.
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09/23/2004 12:46:17 PM · #3 |
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09/23/2004 12:47:41 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by siggi:
push processed? |
A technique used with film.
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09/23/2004 12:49:20 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by G4Ds:
Originally posted by siggi:
push processed? |
A technique used with film. |
thats what I was asking?
What is push processing?
How is the technique?
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09/23/2004 12:51:02 PM · #6 |
you set your camera at a faster film speed than your film. this underexposes the film if you still meter for the light correctly. Then when the film is proccessed, you develope it for a longer period than normal.
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09/23/2004 12:51:06 PM · #7 |
| You use a film of say 200ISO and shoot at say 800ISO and then when processing you change your timings to suit this change. |
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09/23/2004 12:52:08 PM · #8 |
it is a technique used to take pictures in dark situations with faster shutter speed or greater depth of feild.
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09/23/2004 12:53:49 PM · #9 |
| The down side is you get a lot more grain and the image quaility is not as good. It is now also used as a art technique. When used properly the result can be very interesting and nice. |
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09/23/2004 01:08:35 PM · #10 |
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09/23/2004 01:51:53 PM · #11 |
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09/23/2004 02:00:34 PM · #12 |
| woh, that is a great photo. yeah, the contrast, the slight grain, definitely looks like pushed film. |
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09/23/2004 02:19:56 PM · #13 |
I wonder how this technique can be applied to Digital, I guess it's only a question of underexposing it.
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09/23/2004 02:27:27 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Gil P:
I wonder how this technique can be applied to Digital, I guess it's only a question of underexposing it. |
These are digital....
I didn't underexpose the originals but I plan to try some of that too....
The steps to create these are as follows:
1. Do your normal post processing workflow on the original color image.
2. Change the brightness to -75
3. Change the contrast to -50
4. Levels: bring the highlight level down from 255 to 100
5. Convert to grayscale
6. Add grain if desired
Serve with beer.
(Steps 2 and 3 simulate the underexposure to some degree)
Message edited by author 2004-09-23 14:28:03. |
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09/23/2004 02:31:26 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by Gil P:
I wonder how this technique can be applied to Digital, I guess it's only a question of underexposing it. |
These are digital....
I didn't underexpose the originals but I plan to try some of that too....
The steps to create these are as follows:
1. Do your normal post processing workflow on the original color image.
2. Change the brightness to -75
3. Change the contrast to -50
4. Levels: bring the highlight level down from 255 to 100
5. Convert to grayscale
6. Add grain if desired
Serve with beer.
(Steps 2 and 3 simulate the underexposure to some degree) |
Ok yes, this is somewhat the same process I use, just never considered that it was an equivalent to PP.
Seems there are terms I am unclear on!
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09/23/2004 02:33:03 PM · #16 |
I'd agree that this does have the effective look of a push-processed image. Very nice image, too!
(P.S. How's your printer problem coming? ;-)
-len
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09/23/2004 02:35:38 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Gil P:
Ok yes, this is somewhat the same process I use, just never considered that it was an equivalent to PP.
Seems there are terms I am unclear on! |
The simulation, so far, seems to be working equally well on a relatively large set of photos. I may simply stick with this rather than try to start out by underexposing by two stops. One reason I prefer digital is because I can have my color original properly exposed and then go where I want with it. I think I'll probably forego the -2 stop test and just go with this.
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09/23/2004 02:36:27 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by lenkphotos:
I'd agree that this does have the effective look of a push-processed image. Very nice image, too!
(P.S. How's your printer problem coming? ;-)
-len |
Its sorted out as of today :) I will send you mail in the next day or so :) |
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09/23/2004 02:37:30 PM · #19 |
thats too funny, on my way to work today i was thinking about push processing and wondering how i would be able to do that on the computer b/c i don't have access to a dark room
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09/23/2004 03:21:19 PM · #20 |
| Gil's second image definitely has some exposure! Is the girl leaning on the door jamb to remain upright? LOL! Great photos and technique. |
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09/23/2004 03:24:31 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by Gil P:
Ok yes, this is somewhat the same process I use, just never considered that it was an equivalent to PP.
Seems there are terms I am unclear on! |
The simulation, so far, seems to be working equally well on a relatively large set of photos. I may simply stick with this rather than try to start out by underexposing by two stops. One reason I prefer digital is because I can have my color original properly exposed and then go where I want with it. I think I'll probably forego the -2 stop test and just go with this. |
Exactly my feeling, since we can acheive pretty much any "traditional" effect in post, there is no need to do over or under exposure to get the desired effect...I was partial to overexposure until Dr.Jones showed me the proper workflow to attain the same effect.
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09/23/2004 03:32:57 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
The steps to create these are as follows:
1. Do your normal post processing workflow on the original color image.
2. Change the brightness to -75
3. Change the contrast to -50
4. Levels: bring the highlight level down from 255 to 100
5. Convert to grayscale
6. Add grain if desired
(Steps 2 and 3 simulate the underexposure to some degree) |
Thanks for the mini-tutorial! Cant wait to try it at home!
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09/23/2004 04:06:39 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
The steps to create these are as follows:
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Serve with beer. |
I had a go with your exact settings..
Original:
With PP:
Looks a little dark, possibly because the image was quite contrasty from the start..
Where's my beer?
(Shot taken with my new Optio 33WR btw :-D )
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09/23/2004 07:23:52 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
I had a go with your exact settings..
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It's dark but it definitely looks good to me :)
Here is another one I did today with this process....
"TerraSurfer III"
Message edited by author 2004-09-23 19:24:05. |
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09/23/2004 07:39:31 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Here is another one I did today with this process....
"TerraSurfer III" |
Very cool! I like this style alot. BTW, what lens was this shot with?
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