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09/22/2004 06:42:12 AM · #1 |
I'm new to photography pretty much, but I'm considering upgrading to something more powerful (eventually) and I came across a dilemma.
Can a newbie like me skip directly to DSLRs or it is better to try something in between like the 717 before ?
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09/22/2004 06:45:33 AM · #2 |
Personally, I went from a fairly crummy Samsung 2.1MP Point and Shoot with very few features to the 300d and I have been extremely happy with the results.
The only thing to consider is the learning curve that is longer then a few days...
Once you get past that, a DSRL will open up significant options to you. I say go for the DSLR, if you are thinking about going to it eventually, why waste the money on an 'in-between' unit? |
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09/22/2004 06:51:20 AM · #3 |
I have the F717 and am very happy with it, but my fingers are starting to itch for an upgrade.
I think you have to analyse what you want, and how far you want to go with photography.
As often said here if you invest in Canon, you are investing in a system which you can gradually upgrade over time with an infinite number of possibilities.
If you go with the Sony, you are limited to this camera, and can't at some time perhaps buy a better zoom. Also the Sony extras, like memory stick, battery etc. are only compatible with Sony products, and can't be reused.
I would say, if you can afford it, then go for the canon. It still has an Auto mode.
Ed: Typo
Message edited by author 2004-09-22 06:58:47. |
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09/22/2004 06:51:57 AM · #4 |
I went from an A70 to a 300D and found the transition pretty easy. Because they're both Canon the feel and interface were quite natural to me.
Ed: Also, with a 300D you can reuse the CF you have for your A70, rather than having to replace it all with Memory Sticks for an F717.
Message edited by author 2004-09-22 06:54:17.
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09/22/2004 07:04:37 AM · #5 |
Okay. then DSLR it is :-)
PaulMdx, for how long did you have the A70 ? when did you feel you've outgrown it ?
I don't quite feel that it's very limiting nowdays (just once in a while) but I'm afraid I won't be able to cope with a DSLR and produce quality stuff, not to mention that I'll have to carry a lot of equipment with me and to get used to not use the LCD anymore before shooting.
My dad has a Canon 300 (SLR) which he doesn't really use but I feel real bad taking a lot of photos and then print them to just get used to the SLR feeling.
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09/22/2004 07:15:21 AM · #6 |
Alex....with the creative imagination you've shown with the A70 you're going to have a blast with the drebel.
sue
Message edited by author 2004-09-22 07:15:53. |
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09/22/2004 07:15:38 AM · #7 |
I had my A70 for about 5-6 months. I'd taken about 5,500 shots in that time, so I thought I got pretty good use out of it. My reasons for upgrading included the lack of resolution (or pixel quality more accurately), noisy shots, lack of zoom and unresponsiveness of the camera. When I justified my 300D I said that the reason I wanted it wasn't because my camera wasn't capable at the shots I was taking, it was that the 300D gave me more options and more opportunities. I could shoot more telephoto, crop more, shoot in darker conditions, shoot faster, etc.
It took me a little getting used to, but it really wasn't long. I took these shots in Boston about two weeks after I got my camera. Although they're perhaps not as good as I could achieve now, I still appreciated the camera massively, and enjoy the quality of the shots I took.
I personally found using the viewfinder completely natural, but I'd used an SLR when I was very young, so I was pretty used it it anyway..
If your dad has a Canon 300, I guess you could use his lenses too? I did the same thing - which for me was a huge advantage as it got me going straight away without spending a lot on lenses.
If you have any more questions, let me know..
Edit: Thinking about it, I'd say the image feedback on the 300D is better than the A70. You can't use the LCD while composing the shot, but as soon as you've taken it it will pop up on the LCD, and you get the advantage of a histogram and over-exposure indication. If you mess up a shot, just take it again.
Message edited by author 2004-09-22 07:19:58.
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09/22/2004 07:49:28 AM · #8 |
| I also had the A70. I think an ideal situation would be if you could keep the A70 as a general purpose take me anywhere Point & shoot camera, and use the DSLR for when you are looking for quality photos. |
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09/22/2004 08:01:26 AM · #9 |
Agree with most of have been said above.
I went from A70 to 300D. It takes some time to get used to it and learn properly how to use it but it´s not very hard if you are interested. It opened a now understanding of photography for me.
Unsure how much you gain by going from A70 to 717 although I´ve no doubt the the 717 is a fine camera. |
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09/22/2004 09:30:05 AM · #10 |
What kind of camera you upgrade to really depends on what kind of shooting you do, and want to do in the future. There is nothing wrong with going a step at a time and learning as you go. Many people on this site seem to think that everybody photographer should have a DSLR. If your dad has a 300D he doesn't use all that much it may be because he doesn't have the time to invest in mastering it. Perhaps a temporary trade would give both of you an opportunity to work with something you might use more often in the future after learning it.
Message edited by author 2004-09-22 09:31:32. |
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09/22/2004 10:22:52 AM · #11 |
Well if you decide to go with the 717, check out hsteg's 717 he has for sale right now...looks like a great deal. ;o)
...hey, just throwin' the kid a bone! |
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09/22/2004 11:55:38 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
What kind of camera you upgrade to really depends on what kind of shooting you do, and want to do in the future. There is nothing wrong with going a step at a time and learning as you go. Many people on this site seem to think that everybody photographer should have a DSLR. If your dad has a 300D he doesn't use all that much it may be because he doesn't have the time to invest in mastering it. Perhaps a temporary trade would give both of you an opportunity to work with something you might use more often in the future after learning it. |
You´re right coolhar but I´m not sure how much step upward the 717 is to A70. Surely you have more zoomrange and maybe few additional features but it´s the same system with similar possibilities. |
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09/22/2004 12:02:13 PM · #13 |
I went from the A70 to the F717. The change wasn't ground breaking.
5 MP instead of 3
5 X zoom instead of 3
Great night focusing.
However after the A70 the handling of the F717 drives you nuts. Deleting or rotating images in the camera is a Pain in the A*se!
Message edited by author 2004-09-22 12:04:10. |
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09/22/2004 12:02:57 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Well if you decide to go with the 717, check out hsteg's 717 he has for sale right now...looks like a great deal. ;o)
...hey, just throwin' the kid a bone! |
what she said!
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09/22/2004 12:24:00 PM · #15 |
You have some good advice here ... and although you have decided on the Canon instead of the 717 I will throw in my .02 in support of the Canon.
I went from the Sony S75 (3.2mp) to the Canon 300D. It was a bit awkward at first, and I used the auto mode for about 2 weeks until I got a feel for the camera. Now, I don't regret my decision one single bit and it has actually opened up doors for me that I wouldn't otherwise have with the 717.
Like others have said, your decision on which camera to get should also be weighed based on what you want to do with photography, but sometimes I think it's hard to really know that until you've explored all types of options.
For instance, before upgrading to the Canon (and for awhile after upgrading) I had no idea how much I would enjoy shooting sports. Now that I have the right camera and lens to do the job, that door has opened for me and it's becoming one of my main pursuits.
Even though my camera bag has gone from weighing 5 pounds (probably less) and hanging from my belt loop to 20 pounds and a backpack, I still don't regret my decision one bit. It has been a trade off - carry water, snacks and emergency gear on a hike or a back pack full of camera gear - It's been a worthwhile trade off. |
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09/22/2004 12:52:46 PM · #16 |
Alex, I just took a look at your portfolio, and you have good eye and taste for shootting (pictures of course), that's the most difficult part, learning the technique and getting involve with DSLR is like eating a candy when you have the sense of photography, technique always can be learned. Go DSLR now!
IMHO
Message edited by author 2004-09-22 12:53:17.
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09/22/2004 01:07:29 PM · #17 |
Thanks a lot for all the tips guys ( and gals of course :) ) !
I came to conclusion I want to go DSLR one day, These days I can not afford it so it'll wait some more time.
Hopefully I could buy it in 12 months from now.
My parents won't pay for this hobby of mine for sure :-)
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