To those who belive the Iraq war is to liberate

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

09/16/2004 05:08:59 PM · #37

The US has pulled a 150 million out of appropriations for Afganistan and Iraq to help Sudan. Meanwhile, I still do not hear of any ACTION on the part of the UN.

The Sudanese victims of the Janjaweed truly do not care about resolutions. They just want the violence to stop.

David Ey

Nikon D80

09/16/2004 06:36:51 PM · #38

Well, somebody in the Sudan votes opposing the US 80% of the time at the UN. Maybe we should leave them alone and let them solve their own problems. Freedom they earn themselves will be sweeter and longer lasting. How about we go down the list and stop sending our aid to all the countries who almost always vote against us.

09/16/2004 08:45:12 PM · #39

Originally posted by David Ey:

Those casting the vote are the same regime sponsoring the janjaweed, who in turn are the one's raping, mutilating and killing. It is this regime and many others like it around the globe who do not want us involved in their affairs. The delimna is with the victims. Either protect them or give them the means to protect themselves. The other option of course, is to just ignore it. The same option we have prior to any decision to get involved.

09/20/2004 09:08:53 PM · #40

Still no action from the international community.

Maybe they are waiting for the US to take the lead so that they can complain about our overbearence.

Meanwhile.......children are being viciously assaulted.

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

09/21/2004 07:55:52 PM · #41

Still no action from the UN.

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

09/21/2004 08:04:36 PM · #42

Originally posted by Flash:

Still no action from the UN.

Flash, why do you suppose no one is helping? (not a trick question with a political motive behind it :) My understanding of the situation is that the Janjaweed number is quite small and it shouldn't take too much to put them down. Of course, the Sudanese government, who are backing them, is another matter, but it doesn't appear that they are very powerful either.

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

09/21/2004 08:24:53 PM · #43

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Originally posted by Flash:
Still no action from the UN.

Flash, why do you suppose no one is helping? (not a trick question with a political motive behind it :) My understanding of the situation is that the Janjaweed number is quite small and it shouldn't take too much to put them down. Of course, the Sudanese government, who are backing them, is another matter, but it doesn't appear that they are very powerful either.

Olyuzi,

Your question is precisely what I do not understand. I can't explain why the world stage is so silent (with action) on this extremely disturbing event. The country pushing for action is the US (with 150 million dollars) and handsitting on the part of others. I understand the political arguments about oil etc, but to me these do not hold up as the US is pushing for action and if they were only interested in oil then why would we care. Then there is the argument that we only care because it is election time and the administration is trying to garner black votes. I don't buy that as most voters have already made up their mind, including the Black vote.

No, I think this is principally a humanitarian crisis, with the UN doing what the UN does. Talk, talk, talk. Meanwhile, children, little girls, are being grossly mistreated. I just shake my head. I pary for those souls, but I shake my head. This is truly disgusting.

Hope this reply allows some insight into my thoughts.

mrorange002

Canon EOS-5D

09/21/2004 08:28:46 PM · #44

Jacko

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

09/21/2004 08:32:39 PM · #45

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

09/21/2004 08:32:49 PM · #46

Originally posted by Flash:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Originally posted by Flash:
Still no action from the UN.

Flash, why do you suppose no one is helping? (not a trick question with a political motive behind it :) My understanding of the situation is that the Janjaweed number is quite small and it shouldn't take too much to put them down. Of course, the Sudanese government, who are backing them, is another matter, but it doesn't appear that they are very powerful either.

Olyuzi,

Your question is precisely what I do not understand. I can't explain why the world stage is so silent (with action) on this extremely disturbing event. The country pushing for action is the US (with 150 million dollars) and handsitting on the part of others. I understand the political arguments about oil etc, but to me these do not hold up as the US is pushing for action and if they were only interested in oil then why would we care. Then there is the argument that we only care because it is election time and the administration is trying to garner black votes. I don't buy that as most voters have already made up their mind, including the Black vote.

No, I think this is principally a humanitarian crisis, with the UN doing what the UN does. Talk, talk, talk. Meanwhile, children, little girls, are being grossly mistreated. I just shake my head. I pary for those souls, but I shake my head. This is truly disgusting.

Hope this reply allows some insight into my thoughts.

***Flash, the only thing I can think of is that there are things going on behind the scenes, in that region of the world, that we don't know about. It's truly horrendous that such mistreatment of innocent people are not being stopped.

09/21/2004 08:33:07 PM · #47

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Message edited by author 2004-09-21 20:34:15.