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08/29/2004 09:56:31 AM · #1
For me it just seems like there are a lack of toys on the website.

so;

1) Recolour the whole thing, blue and grey is a little dull
2) Some emoticons on the board and a little more user info in the side panel would be nice
3) Recently updated portfolio on the homepage for those that have done just that
4) More feature writing
5) .........

More soon need to think

other than that this place is great

:OI

08/29/2004 10:14:36 AM · #2
I like the blue and gray color of the site. It draws your attention more to the photographs than the actual webdesign.
08/29/2004 10:51:12 AM · #3
Originally posted by Article19:

1) Recolour the whole thing, blue and grey is a little dull

The neutral gray motif was indeed chosen as closest to "standard" viewing conditions for photographs.
Originally posted by Article19:

4) More feature writing

Tutorials, how-to articles, interviews, and other such features are written by members ... feel free to submit items you think would be interesting to other members : )
08/29/2004 11:58:11 AM · #4
Originally posted by Article19:

For me it just seems like there are a lack of toys on the website.

so;

1) Recolour the whole thing, blue and grey is a little dull


I agree with Loki and GE. The neutral colors don't distract you from the images. If you had a bright red layout, it might clash with a photo that is pink, etc.

Originally posted by Article19:

2) Some emoticons on the board and a little more user info in the side panel would be nice


What types of things would you like to see in the side panel? I recently suggested online/offline status. Not sure how much could be added before it gets too crowded and too much like the bio page info. I like the emoticon idea, though. :-)

08/29/2004 12:45:32 PM · #5
Originally posted by ButterflySis:

Originally posted by Article19:

2) Some emoticons on the board and a little more user info in the side panel would be nice


What types of things would you like to see in the side panel? I recently suggested online/offline status. Not sure how much could be added before it gets too crowded and too much like the bio page info. I like the emoticon idea, though. :-)

It was suggested a while back to have an option to show the photographers image from their portfolio under their name, but it soon became bogged down by restrictions being added to it; no animation, the image must be of the photographer, must be a head-shot, etc. The concern was that the board would soon look too cluttered with images that have contribution the the topic under discussion -- but with the trend lately in signiture photos, that is soon to be irrelevant. :(

I would like the user profile to open in a new window, like any link in a message does, instead of stealing the current one -- but that may be just me.

David
08/29/2004 01:42:16 PM · #6
I have a suggestion for you Martin. Enter a challenge. :)
08/30/2004 09:49:46 AM · #7
I appreciate the colours are not to distract from the images but you could brighten things up a little.

In the side panel we could have a male female indicator and the country or location would be nice, gives folks a bit of context.
08/30/2004 09:56:45 AM · #8
Originally posted by Article19:

In the side panel we could have a male female indicator

There already is a male/female indicator (pony tails in the hair or not, plus the genderless variant), along with registered user (gray) vs. member (blue) vs. Site Council (custom icons with sunglasses)...

Message edited by author 2004-08-30 09:59:47.
08/30/2004 10:02:45 AM · #9
The location of the user (if provided) would be interesting. That would give some context to some of the posts.
08/30/2004 10:08:13 AM · #10
Originally posted by Article19:

2) Some emoticons on the board and a little more user info in the side panel would be nice

I think other messages boards have FAR too many flashy graphics as it is - and I'm very glad DPC doesn't.
08/30/2004 10:15:19 AM · #11
Well that's where a bit of design skill comes in and the pony tail thing is subtle to the point of unnoticeable.

You can have plenty of toys but still keep the design crisp and clean
08/30/2004 12:07:39 PM · #12
I'm sorry but I have to disagree ... I think the design here is great. The only thing I agreed with is having emoticons in the forums, and signatures.
08/30/2004 12:54:09 PM · #13
I like the design of the page as it is, it's simple and good as it is. Maybe there could be some changes to it, but please don't "brighten" it up with some variable colors.

One thing that could be an interesting addition here is a box with maybe last 10 recent users online, that box could be at the left above the newsbox on the startup page. Also it could be just above where your user name is at the top to the right, maybe not 10 then, maybe 4-10 in two lines. This is a crappy suggestion maybe... have to reconsider, just typing as I think. -â€Â¢clic

08/30/2004 01:00:39 PM · #14
Originally posted by Britannica:



I would like the user profile to open in a new window, like any link in a message does, instead of stealing the current one -- but that may be just me.

David


Just switch to the Firefox browser. A simple click on any link with the middle mouse button (or with the mouse wheel, if that's what you have) opens any link in a new tab. It rocks over Internet Explorer.
08/30/2004 01:31:48 PM · #15
Originally posted by Britannica:

The concern was that the board would soon look too cluttered with images that have contribution the the topic under discussion -- but with the trend lately in signiture photos, that is soon to be irrelevant. :(

I would like the user profile to open in a new window, like any link in a message does, instead of stealing the current one -- but that may be just me.


Sorry, I am one of those with the images in the signature. I did try to make them small though, so they're not that distracting...

Agreed about the new window. I don't want to have to get a new brower to do that, but now I settle for right clicking and choosing "Open in New Window" because generally I want to biew their profile while I'm writing a post and going to a new page will lose my information.

Message edited by author 2004-08-30 13:32:26.
08/30/2004 01:35:21 PM · #16
Or you can simply hold down the SHIFT key when clicking on a link and voila, new window!!! ;)

Originally posted by Ami Yuy:

Originally posted by Britannica:

The concern was that the board would soon look too cluttered with images that have contribution the the topic under discussion -- but with the trend lately in signiture photos, that is soon to be irrelevant. :(

I would like the user profile to open in a new window, like any link in a message does, instead of stealing the current one -- but that may be just me.


Sorry, I am one of those with the images in the signature. I did try to make them small though, so they're not that distracting...

Agreed about the new window. I don't want to have to get a new brower to do that, but now I settle for right clicking and choosing "Open in New Window" because generally I want to biew their profile while I'm writing a post and going to a new page will lose my information.

08/30/2004 01:36:39 PM · #17
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by Article19:

2) Some emoticons on the board and a little more user info in the side panel would be nice

I think other messages boards have FAR too many flashy graphics as it is - and I'm very glad DPC doesn't.


I need bright flashy things and distractions every few seconds or I get really bored and understimulated. Could we have a blink tag as well please ?
08/30/2004 01:37:56 PM · #18
Here you go Gordon....


08/30/2004 01:38:12 PM · #19
Originally posted by Britannica:

The concern was that the board would soon look too cluttered with images that have contribution the the topic under discussion -- but with the trend lately in signiture photos, that is soon to be irrelevant. :(


People have signatures here ? :)

Of course, if we have the option to put in lots of flashy graphics and other junk - I don't mind as long as there's an option to switch it all off. The animated smileys people are dropping in could do with a filter option too.
08/30/2004 02:08:15 PM · #20
Originally posted by StevePax:

Originally posted by Britannica:



I would like the user profile to open in a new window, like any link in a message does, instead of stealing the current one -- but that may be just me.

David


Just switch to the Firefox browser. A simple click on any link with the middle mouse button (or with the mouse wheel, if that's what you have) opens any link in a new tab. It rocks over Internet Explorer.

Tried it -- found it way too immature for serious use. In fact, the only things I found that it had going for it was that it was no where near as popular as IE wo there are fewer people looking for ways to be annoying and it has tabs (even if they are broken and are relatively easy to add to IE).

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@Ann: No, yours are not too distracting, but there are some who insist on using their sig for a porfolio or print gallery, which we already have as features on the site -- so no reason to duplicate. We won't even talk about the animated noise or those with signatures longer than their posts. I would just turn them off, and I will if it gets much worse, but there are many sigs that are relevant and useful (links to their prints (just one link please) or to their website.

But I would also like the option to turn off the animation (or just block gifs entirely). Although, some nice blue-shirted emoticons would be helpful, as long as they are not animated or large enough they throw the formatting of the text off.

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@Paolo: I do open them in a seperate window, my complaint is not that I can't work around it but that it is inconsistent with the the rest of the site around it.

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What the forums need is not more glitz; it needs better navigation capabilities such as:

a view first unread post link and an unread message list that actually has something to do with whether or not I have read it or not.

Also, it would be quite a nice feature to have links to similar threads at the bottom of the page for further reading on similar subjects.

While were on the subject of threads (or at least I am), a rating system for threads would be nice as well. With that a list of highest ranked threads could be made and the information that is in these forums could actually be found without having to know that information already.

A page that lists the referred threads would also be very helpful -- it would list those threads that have been referred to (linked) in other threads in order of the number of links -- it would quickly become a very valuable list of the most useful threads on the site.

David
08/30/2004 02:15:22 PM · #21
that all sounds pretty standard as far as forums go to me - and i miss those features here - now that i am accustomed to them elsewhere. i would also like the option to disallow smile faces, and hopping creatures and the like - and also only a single text line allowed for signatures - no images allowed.

Originally posted by :

What the forums need is not more glitz; it needs better navigation capabilities such as:

a view first unread post link and an unread message list that actually has something to do with whether or not I have read it or not.

Also, it would be quite a nice feature to have links to similar threads at the bottom of the page for further reading on similar subjects.

While were on the subject of threads (or at least I am), a rating system for threads would be nice as well. With that a list of highest ranked threads could be made and the information that is in these forums could actually be found without having to know that information already.

A page that lists the referred threads would also be very helpful -- it would list those threads that have been referred to (linked) in other threads in order of the number of links -- it would quickly become a very valuable list of the most useful threads on the site.

David

08/30/2004 02:27:44 PM · #22
Originally posted by soup:

that all sounds pretty standard as far as forums go to me - and i miss those features here - now that i am accustomed to them elsewhere. ...

I didn't say they were original suggestions, I said they were needed. :)

David
08/30/2004 02:40:45 PM · #23
Originally posted by Britannica:

What the forums need is not more glitz; it needs better navigation capabilities such as:

a view first unread post link and an unread message list that actually has something to do with whether or not I have read it or not.

Also, it would be quite a nice feature to have links to similar threads at the bottom of the page for further reading on similar subjects.

While were on the subject of threads (or at least I am), a rating system for threads would be nice as well. With that a list of highest ranked threads could be made and the information that is in these forums could actually be found without having to know that information already.

A page that lists the referred threads would also be very helpful -- it would list those threads that have been referred to (linked) in other threads in order of the number of links -- it would quickly become a very valuable list of the most useful threads on the site.

David


Good ideas, all, though I can see possible reasons they aren't being used. Example1: 'Last unread post'--As far as I can tell, such things aren't being kept track of. If sufficient coding isn't in place to add such to our cookies, it might be a pain to implement.
Example2: 'Similar threads link'--This sounds to me like the most trouble, because you need someone to decide which threads are similar, and which are similar enough to connect together. Linking it to a search for certain words would be nothing but trouble, because if the words are taken from the body of the first post, way too many results come up. Add to that the dozens of people logged on, potentially clicking on said link, and it represents undue strain on the servers.

Example3: 'Thread Ranking' Who does the ranking? Members? Site Council? Admins? It represents a hell of a lot of extra work if the SC's or AD's have to do it. And as we can see by the results of Challenges, Allowing all the Members or all the users to vote doesn't always mean the most important topic will get the highest ranking.

Just a couple of pennies from the King of Computers:)
08/30/2004 04:19:22 PM · #24
The code to implement each of them is just slightly more complex than 'trivial' (meaning it would take more than one pass through the code, but less than ten, to 'get it right'). As you said, the most difficult, but not by much, would be the similar threads list. But that could be easily implemented by listing the words used in the posts (all of them please), ranked by occurance with the common filler words (and, but, or, please, etc.) being ignored.

A ranking would be done by those reading the thread; I think you will find the forum visitors are a far more decerning subset of those voting. This is far closer to the 'trivial' as the code is already implemented for tutorials.

Along with the above, I think a list of common types of threads (helpful information, humorous, political, etc) that could be choosen from while rating the thread would also prove quite useful. Weight the 'score' of the thread by the type distribution and its ranking along certain catagories becomes more precise with minimal effort.

And finally, I don't believe it to be the case here, but if the database is so poorly designed that it is being taxed by forum traffic, it is in serious need of being reworked. :(

David

Message edited by author 2004-08-30 16:20:04.
08/30/2004 04:33:22 PM · #25
What I'd really like right now would be a CSS enabled version of the site that supported a real light weight theme, that got rid of all of the unnecessary stuff that uses up screen realestate with fluff like user names and logos.

Gordon, posting from a PDA somewhere in Austin
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