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08/25/2004 01:30:49 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by jonr:
What? No "Too dark" comments yet?! |
I think this is because most people in the forums, tend to look at shots a little longer than in challenges.
Plus everyone knows who posted the pics.
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08/25/2004 02:01:13 PM · #27 |
Excellent work! I love Graceful II and Confused the most.
Maybe on our next IDPC gtg you'll tell us the secret of taking great studio portraits ;-) |
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08/25/2004 02:14:41 PM · #28 |
Great photos Heida.
I can appreciate the difficulties involved in taking self portraits after doing one for a recent challenge where I took about 150 photos with the self timer untill I got what I wanted. The next day I had sore muscles from running from the camera & trying to arrange my pose before the camera took the picture. |
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08/25/2004 03:01:34 PM · #29 |
In the first three the lighting is great (the alternate crop of #1 included); the shadows are playing quite happily. Since the lighting is what you seem to be the most interested in I'll leave it at that, as I have nothing to add to it.
The only thing I don't like are the titles. It seams strange to say that, but if you titled them after what you were wanting to convey with the images, they just don't fit. Here is my attempt as explaining my thinking in saying this:
Grace if a flowing motion; even if not moving, it implies a flowing motion. Your pose is rigid (back straight, arms straight at your side, knees together, feet locked in place). The limbs are the most mobile of our body parts, they are primarily what conveys motion but here are anchoring you to your chair.
The arms convey the emotion well, although as mentioned by another (too lazy to go see who) I would like to see a symmetry in the hands -- since they are the same distance from the camera I would like them both visible or both hidden in shadows. As it is, they seem to throw the image off-balance. I will also agree the leg needs to go; not because a leg would not fit the image well, but because it is obvious you are sitting down -- and that doesn't fit the rest of the image. And, one more thing. Joyful?!? Do you ever smile?
This one just doesn't say anything to me. It is like it is caught between stress, maybe confusion (in a way) and a migraine. I just have not been able to identify what about it is not working. Sorry, I can't be more specific about it.
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This one is just too over-blown. I don't think a high-key has to be blown out, just predominately bright. The main complaint I have with it is the light is so bright it is very harsh on your face, and is quite unflattering.
But, knowing how hard it is to do self-portraits, you did quite well with the lighting. I get the feeling you were just playing with the poses, and named them as an after-thought, so the above comments may not be of use to you. But there you have them anyway.
David
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08/25/2004 03:13:52 PM · #30 |
Thanks a lot for your comments David yeah I just found some titles for them afterwards I thought fitted
I see now its too bad I didnt get the whole hand in the frame on picture 2
Maybe I should burn the end of it out?
I will try different croppings like taking the leg out
And thanks for commenting on my high key
I want to try high key agin maybe tonight I will
I would like to learn that technique
I would like a model :)
And thanks everybody for your comments :)
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08/25/2004 03:18:19 PM · #31 |
Beautiful portraits, Heida... really excellent work!
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08/25/2004 05:52:48 PM · #32 |
| I left comments on each photo. |
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08/25/2004 05:56:43 PM · #33 |
Why is it that Heida can recieve 31 comments on her photos, yet the avg joe who needs more help than her gets 1-2 if they are lucky...
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08/25/2004 05:57:53 PM · #34 |
| i am in awe of your talent. I love absolutely everything you do, including these. Man, only to have your brains and knowhow. |
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08/25/2004 06:00:26 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
Why is it that Heida can recieve 31 comments on her photos, yet the avg joe who needs more help than her gets 1-2 if they are lucky... |
cause everyone has a crush on her ^_^
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08/25/2004 07:39:51 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by longlivenyhc:
Originally posted by jmlelii:
Why is it that Heida can recieve 31 comments on her photos, yet the avg joe who needs more help than her gets 1-2 if they are lucky... |
cause everyone has a crush on her ^_^ |
Definitely not I. Besides, I think others should start commenting on the folks who need the criticism, myself included as someone who needs such said help.
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08/25/2004 08:44:59 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
Originally posted by longlivenyhc:
Originally posted by jmlelii:
Why is it that Heida can recieve 31 comments on her photos, yet the avg joe who needs more help than her gets 1-2 if they are lucky... |
cause everyone has a crush on her ^_^ |
Definitely not I. Besides, I think others should start commenting on the folks who need the criticism, myself included as someone who needs such said help. |
I can understand your frustration, but no one can force anyone to comment. Each person comments out of their own impetus. If more people feel they want to comment on heida's photos...lucky her. No need to have sour grapes. Even a few good comments are often enough for the average artist, and I think even heida would agree that many are just echoes of things already said, rather than each one being a novel comment.
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08/25/2004 09:03:56 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
Why is it that Heida can recieve 31 comments on her photos, yet the avg joe who needs more help than her gets 1-2 if they are lucky... |
Hey Jeremy, You've got great photos.
Do you comment on everyones pictures?
Sometimes some photo's just get more comments.
The one comment I gave heida wasn't that great.
She just posted 4 nice photos at a good time, with lots of people online.
luck of the draw.
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08/25/2004 11:04:30 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
Originally posted by longlivenyhc:
Originally posted by jmlelii:
Why is it that Heida can recieve 31 comments on her photos, yet the avg joe who needs more help than her gets 1-2 if they are lucky... |
cause everyone has a crush on her ^_^ |
Definitely not I. Besides, I think others should start commenting on the folks who need the criticism, myself included as someone who needs such said help. |
Maybe it's because you tend to turn people off with comments like these. You always see heida commenting on people's work, so people are reciprocating. Maybe you should try that instead of trying to highjack her thread to draw attention to yourself.
Don't mean to sound harsh, but your post is rather rude.
Edit: spell like a 1st grader
Message edited by author 2004-08-25 23:05:28.
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08/25/2004 11:15:19 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by ericlimon:
Originally posted by jmlelii:
Why is it that Heida can recieve 31 comments on her photos, yet the avg joe who needs more help than her gets 1-2 if they are lucky... |
Hey Jeremy, You've got great photos.
Do you comment on everyones pictures?
Sometimes some photo's just get more comments.
The one comment I gave heida wasn't that great.
She just posted 4 nice photos at a good time, with lots of people online.
luck of the draw. |
I dont comment on others photos because I feel as if I don't even know what im talking about. I dont feel sa if I am good enough yet to make strong comments on others photos.
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08/26/2004 01:12:07 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
I dont comment on others photos because I feel as if I don't even know what im talking about. I dont feel sa if I am good enough yet to make strong comments on others photos. |
If you have an opinion, you have something to say.
Heida and the others further along the learning curve are better at getting their images to communication. When an image says something to you, regardless of what it is saying, it encourages you to say something back.
If you want your photos to get more comments, pay more attention to making sure they have something to say; be it an emotion, a story or something else.
David
@Heida: sorry for continueing an off-topic hijack.
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08/26/2004 01:27:24 AM · #42 |
I left comments earlier. There's just no words to express how perfect these are (to me). My favorite is the first one; it seems to express strength beautifully. I love the comment about the lighting draping like a sheet - so true.
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08/26/2004 01:30:52 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Britannica:
...@Heida: sorry for continueing an off-topic hijack. |
It does keep it at the top of the forums so more people can see the pictures :P
Message edited by author 2004-08-26 01:31:08. |
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08/26/2004 09:29:45 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by heida:
Took some self portraits yesterday
Would love some comments on them
Thanks |
I like your experiments with the lights, you're on the right track with the use of them.
I commented on the photos and worked and posted another versions of two of them to show what I mean.
It would be interesting what you and other in the dpc community think about what I did with it. Check it out:
//www.dpchallenge.com/portfolio.php?USER_ID=1368&collection_id=4046
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08/26/2004 09:48:03 AM · #45 |
Hey Arnar thanks a lot for taking the time
I do like joyful better with the upper hand burned out and leg cropped out but I dont know about the other seems too tight,
I tried another high key
I used the actions from this thread //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=112597
I cant seem to get more contrast on it without blowing it out
Any thoughts?
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08/26/2004 09:53:32 AM · #46 |
Hello Heida !
My fav is "Graceful" , I think that it's a "powerfull" shot , really beautiful !
White series are totally different ,in my opinion the best selfprotraits are the black ones.
Thank you for sharing those nice photos ! |
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08/26/2004 10:30:16 AM · #47 |
I like the high key photo. I wonder if you might be able to keep it high key while bringing some blacks back into the picture?
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08/26/2004 11:03:07 AM · #48 |
As I said in that thread, I don't consider that action to create real "high key" images. Your photo simply looks washed out. To me, high key is something that is achieved at capture time with careful attention to lighting, not via Photoshop editing. ;-) |
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08/26/2004 11:14:15 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by jmlelii:
I dont comment on others photos because I feel as if I don't even know what im talking about. I dont feel sa if I am good enough yet to make strong comments on others photos. |
It is a great (and arguably better) way to learn than having other people comment on your own pictures. If you don't feel you know enough to share them with other people, just write them and delete them afterwards. But start by writing them. The process of breaking down a picture, looking at what works, doesn't work, understanding what you (you personally - not anyone else) likes about an image is the most powerful way to learn and improve. Do it with your own pictures, do it with other pictures. Being able to have such a large selection of images to review and such a willing bunch of recipiants here at DPC is the real value of this site and the real power for learning and improving your photography that DPC offers. But it takes effort on the part of the person wanting to learn. Here's some notes I wrote on how to make a decent critique (note that a one or two sentence comment is very rarely a useful or meaningful critique or comment) You could try working through each of these headings on some images and see how you go - I'm sure you could find some to discuss them in the forums afterwards if you feel you wanted to go further with it or understand how to improve. Just start by spending a few minutes looking at each of these aspects of an image, then start typing. It isn't a test :) so take as long as it takes to really get to understand it. Often this is best done with some shots that you really like, at least to begin with - you might find out what you like about them and it will start influencing what you do before you push the shutter - a whole lot more than anything someone tells you to do that you haven't worked out on your own.
Making A Critique
A critique is a written evaluation of a photograph. It shouldn't just say 'I like/don't like this picture'. Here are some suggested aspects to consider and comment on in your critique
(1) COMPOSITION -CONTENT - This is what the photograph is saying. What is the Center of Interest in the photograph? Where does your eye come to rest in viewing the photo? If there is more than one focus point does that add to the photographs interest or distract from it? Where was the Center of Interest placed within the frame of the photo? Did they use the rule of thirds? Did it improve anything ? What other eye control elements are in the photo (leading lines, contrast, diagonal lines, etc). Did the photographer get close enough to the subject to include only what is important? In other words, are there wasted parts of the frame that contain items not adding to the message of the photo? How is colour used ? Does it add or detract from the main point of the picture. Black and white or monochrome can be used to enhance texture or shape relationships in a picture that additional colours can hide.
(2) BACKGROUND - How did the photographer use the tools of selective focus or depth of field to deal with the background? Is the background simplified, included or a solid or is it nonexistent? How does the background add or distract from the message of the photo?
(3) CAMERA WORK -TECHNICAL - Exposure and focus begin in the camera. Is the subject sharp and clearly in focus? Are part of the photo that need to be clearly focused out of focus? Exposure is observed in the details of the shadow area. A properly exposed photo will have some texture in the shadows. Is the photo exposed properly and give some evidence of what you see? Is there detail visible in the brightest parts of the print? If there are areas of the picture that lack detail or are very contrasty is that good or bad?
(4) DIGITAL PROCESSING - TECHNICAL - Has the image been processed correctly ? Is the white balance correctly compensated for, or does the picture suffer from a colour cast ? (E.g., yellow indoor pictures from domestic lighting) Has the picture
been correctly sharpened ? Does the image have JPEG artefacts or other evidence of poor technical processing ?
(5) YOUR OPINION ON THE PHOTO - What do you like about the subject? Is it an emotional shot, a story, a statement, a humorous photo, or what? Is there anything about the photograph that you would do differently if you were the photographer and had the chance to do the same shot?
I think I might expand on this a bit and put it somewhere as a tutorial...
Message edited by author 2004-08-26 11:14:45.
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08/26/2004 11:21:14 AM · #50 |
Beautiful, dramatic lighting on the dark ones, Heida. Would be exceptional lighting for nudes (not that I'm suggesting you post self-nudes, just with the recent nude challenge, I think a lot of people could benefit from your lighting technique to really show the graceful curves of the human body...)
On your high key one, I think it's lovely. If you want to boost contrast without blowing out the whites, you could either burn the darks very slightly (as I KNOW you know how to do) or use the curves tool to slightly darken the darks without touching the lighter areas - just a thought.
Thanks for sharing more of your exceptional work!
Jodie
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