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 08/18/2004 07:10:43 AM · #26
Originally posted by jonr:
the 10-22mm lens is more interesting, IMHO. It is very clever little lens,


The thread size is as big as the 16-35 F2.8L.... :)
 08/18/2004 07:47:32 AM · #27
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by jonr:
the 10-22mm lens is more interesting, IMHO. It is very clever little lens,


The thread size is as big as the 16-35 F2.8L.... :)


The 1.6 crop will make upgrading to the 20D from the 300D a waste of money. The 10-22 makes me drool though.
 08/18/2004 07:50:01 AM · #28
Why would it make upgrading a waste of money?
 08/18/2004 07:55:10 AM · #29
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by jonr:
the 10-22mm lens is more interesting, IMHO. It is very clever little lens,


The thread size is as big as the 16-35 F2.8L.... :)


Does the size of the thread translate into size of the barrel of the lens? And does a larger barrel make for more incoming light?
 08/18/2004 08:00:17 AM · #30
Originally posted by Konador:
Why would it make upgrading a waste of money?


1.6 crop 8.2 mp to 1.6 crop 6.3mp is not a great leap. If you want more features go for the second hand 10Ds that will flood the market. For the lower end canon SLR users get used to the 1.6 crop factor. While they chase the EF-S lenses that don't work with the 1.3 sensor. The hole in the rubber bit is too small for the 1.3 sensor.
 08/18/2004 08:12:51 AM · #31
HoHo

08/18/2004 08:14:49 AM · #32
Originally posted by BooZon:
Originally posted by Konador:
Why would it make upgrading a waste of money?


1.6 crop 8.2 mp to 1.6 crop 6.3mp is not a great leap. If you want more features go for the second hand 10Ds that will flood the market. For the lower end canon SLR users get used to the 1.6 crop factor. While they chase the EF-S lenses that don't work with the 1.3 sensor. The hole in the rubber bit is too small for the 1.3 sensor.


33% more pixels is not a great leap? Sounds pretty good to me, but I am a D60 owner, so I am more than ready to upgrade for a lot of other reasons. What is almost as attractive to me is the idea of a 200ms startup time - that would be awesome. The startup time on the D60 does not stink, but it is certainly noticeable. I hoe that rumor is true.

It remains to be seen whether any of the specs listed in this thread are true before an official announcement, although the 1.6 crop factor seems almost certain based on the lens focal lengths - I really do not think they would have gone as deep as 10-22mm for a 1.3 crop, but who knows.

08/18/2004 08:15:52 AM · #33
also AI servo and 5fps (if its true) is good enuff reason for me (as if like have the money *rolleyes* )

Message edited by author 2004-08-18 08:17:35.
 08/18/2004 08:21:55 AM · #34
I went from 4mp (G2) to 6.3mp (300D) and the difference was really really noticable. 6.3mp to 8.2mp is pretty much the same difference again. I reckon it'll be a nice upgrade :)
 08/18/2004 08:29:14 AM · #35
Here is a link you will all like!

Canon Stuff
 08/18/2004 08:29:41 AM · #36
Originally posted by jonpink:
HoHo

Looks like a fairly poor PS to me too (theirs, not yours!)...
 08/18/2004 08:34:51 AM · #37
Hey I'm no expert and I am looking forward to the real specs and some samples like everyone else. A friend of mine who has been into photography for quite some time did some math on it and in reality it's not a great difference. I can't remember the method he used :( A 1.3 crop at 6.3mp would be better as you can go wider.

Have you seen the size of the sensor on the G2? It is a pinky nail size. That made the difference not the MP.
08/18/2004 08:35:35 AM · #38
Originally posted by jonpink:
HoHo


Heh heh... that is awesome Jon :-)
08/18/2004 08:43:27 AM · #39
The other thing is going to be price. $1300 US for the body is still going to keep it out of D70 range. If they have a kit for $1300 I'm thinking it can't have the same build quality as the 10D.

Should be interesting to see what info I have a work when I get in today.

Clara
 08/18/2004 08:54:26 AM · #40
They are trying to hide the page with the photos:
//www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/genhtml_photo/delphotokit_EOS20D.dcr.html

changed the filename from
photokit_EOS20D.dcr.html
to
delphotokit_EOS20D.dcr.html

but the pictures are still there
//www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/images/hiRes/HiRes_20D_angle.jpg

Message edited by author 2004-08-18 08:55:38.
 08/18/2004 09:05:10 AM · #41
Still only A-DEP from the pictures, too.
 08/18/2004 09:07:29 AM · #42
Originally posted by blemt:
If they have a kit for $1300 I'm thinking it can't have the same build quality as the 10D.

Depends how much the kit lens is worth. :-)

10D RRP: $1500
20D RRP: $1600

Not that different..
 08/18/2004 09:20:53 AM · #43
Very interesting! The pics are definitely available on Canon's web page in the links siggi posted. If I still had my 10D, one big disincentive to upgrading would be the fact that it looks like they got rid of the registered AF button! (Which was not present in the D60, then added to the 10D from the 1-series, and now it looks like it has been removed in the 20D.) This is the button to the left of the star ( * ) button.

Also interesting is that Canon appears to be coming out with lenses that are designed for the 1.6X crop factor, indicating that a smaller sensor is likely "here to stay" for the non-pro cameras.
 08/18/2004 09:37:17 AM · #44
Originally posted by EddyG:
Also interesting is that Canon appears to be coming out with lenses that are designed for the 1.6X crop factor, indicating that a smaller sensor is likely "here to stay" for the non-pro cameras.


yes .... this sucks. No way I'm spending a few hundred bucks on a lens that won't work whenever i decide to upgrade my camera body.
 08/18/2004 09:48:25 AM · #45
If this is true, I'm reconsidering buying a 1D MkII. I don't want the 1.6x crop anymore.


08/18/2004 09:50:02 AM · #46
Originally posted by hopper:
yes .... this sucks. No way I'm spending a few hundred bucks on a lens that won't work whenever i decide to upgrade my camera body.

It's no different than the 300D really though.. You can always avoid buying EF-S and just buy EF lenses, as I'm sure you probably do now.
 08/18/2004 09:52:18 AM · #47
Originally posted by terje:
I don't want the 1.6x crop anymore.

It all depends on what type of photographer you are. Long-lens photographers (wildlife photographers, surf photographers, etc. -- basically anybody who will take as much telephoto as they can get) love the 1.6X crop factor because it turns their 500mm lens into an 800mm lens.
 08/18/2004 09:57:55 AM · #48
yup ... but the 17-85mm IS is exactly what I'm looking for (assuming it's a sharp lens). I'm currently working with a 28mm, a 50mm, and the 70-200mm (if Canon'll ever give it back to me :)

Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by hopper:
yes .... this sucks. No way I'm spending a few hundred bucks on a lens that won't work whenever i decide to upgrade my camera body.

It's no different than the 300D really though.. You can always avoid buying EF-S and just buy EF lenses, as I'm sure you probably do now.
08/18/2004 09:58:04 AM · #49
On the other hand, if you need the lens and it only costs $100 more when bought with the camera, it is worth it.
 08/18/2004 10:03:25 AM · #50
So much for every-lens-works-on-every-camera-with-EOS mantra. Is Canon pulling a Nikon DX?
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