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08/12/2004 06:59:26 PM · #1 |
A couple of ideas on a Rose I snapped tonight, would be interested in critique? also, a 'botany' challege Q, will flowers be marked down as being horticultural rather than botanical?
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08/12/2004 07:01:05 PM · #2 |
I personally love the B & W here. The grain and softness end up making a "common flower shot" very special. Excellent work in my opinion.
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08/12/2004 07:03:39 PM · #3 |
botany - The science or study of plants.
horticultural - The science or art of cultivating fruits, vegetables, flowers, or ornamental plants.
I think flowers are ok, by the looks of this :-) |
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08/12/2004 07:07:22 PM · #4 |
andi -- I like the bw, but I was wondering what technique you used to convert it. I know there are a couple of different ways to acheive bw, each with different results.
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08/12/2004 07:08:42 PM · #5 |
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08/12/2004 07:10:06 PM · #6 |
In botany, flowers fall under the classification of angiosperm...so they do qualify. They might be hated and despised, but they are part of the science from what I've read.
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08/12/2004 07:14:23 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by frisca:
andi -- I like the bw, but I was wondering what technique you used to convert it. I know there are a couple of different ways to acheive bw, each with different results. |
Pam, was lazy and just desaturated then added noise, I think going the Hue/Saturation route may have given a better result? and (in my deepest darkest memories) I remember a PS plugin for b&w conversion, can any members with a better memory recall this?
thanks peeps, I think B&W too :)
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08/12/2004 07:21:26 PM · #8 |
I would suggest using the channel mixer method of acheiving bw. I will see if I can find a link for you. It will give you better contrast and control over the tones than a simple desat.
Try it through this tutorial from luminous landscapes. Its not very hard and you get some very great results!
//www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/b-w_better.shtml
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08/12/2004 07:53:41 PM · #9 |
| Hey frisca, thanks for the link, it was a nice one and I also looked at the other linked pages on Curves and duotones and they are all very helpful for a beginner like me :) |
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08/12/2004 08:10:59 PM · #10 |
I think the key to deciding whether this photo should be color or b&w is in what you're trying to achieve. The question you need to ask yourself is this:
Is this photo about color, or form?Or both?
Look at the composition of the photo, is based upon the flowers color? Was the photo inspired by the color of the flower? Or, does the photo capture the form and structure of the flower? Is that what caught your eye? If it's the latter (which in my opinion it is) then go for b&w, as color will only detract from your true subject - the shape, size, lines, texture etc. of the flower. If it's the first, then go for color!
If it's both, you need to find a way to harmonize color and form, using a flat black background can help this.
Lee
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08/12/2004 08:12:57 PM · #11 |
| I like the black and white as well - but I think that it needs more contrast - brighter highlights mostly. It looks a bit faded. |
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08/12/2004 08:44:04 PM · #12 |
I'm a sucker for red... but in this case, I prefer the b&w.
In the color photo the red just "overpowers" the image. The red almost pokes you in the eye and blinds you to the image of the flower itself.
In the b&w you have a chance to look at the softness and texture of the flower.
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08/12/2004 10:50:59 PM · #13 |
Have you tried reducing the saturation of the color image for that washed out handcolor look? The color version is too saturated, the black and white doesnt have a great tonal range or else lacking strong contrast for me.
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