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08/05/2004 04:49:22 PM · #76 |
SDW65,
I wish more people voted like you. I too have been seeing a trend in low scoring. I took a picture of a remote control for the everyday objects challenge and received 8 1's. While I can admit that maybe it's not a great shot and definatelly doesn't deserve 10,9,8 or 7 .. I dont think it deserves a 1 since it's clearly on topic. Anyway ... I don't get down because of people scoring they way they do .. but I do wish (like many others) that they would leave a comment or something idicating what is so bad about my photograph to them.
Cheers,
Mike |
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08/06/2004 05:07:44 AM · #77 |
I am prepared to use the full scale but seldom give anything below a 3 and not many of those either.
I often use placeholders too - splitting into 4,5 and 6 with anything I REALLY like going to an 8.
Then 4s may stay as 4s or go to a 3.
5s usually stay as 5s but I check to see if there are any that should have been in the 4 or 6 group.
Then 6s stay as 6 or go to 7 (with occasional moves to higher or lower).
And 8s are 8, 9 or 10.
OR sometimes I'll go straight to 3, 5, 7 and 9 and then fine tune into the other numbers from there.
Whichever way I do it I go through at least 3 times.
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08/06/2004 06:22:34 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by airatic:
Good news, that user has been indefinitely suspended! That's probably why my score went up :) |
Yay! His comments were neither helpful or inspiring. He has only hurt himself by his stupid actions. All I can say is bye bye to him and thanks for comming.
Edited again cause I can't spell, lol
Message edited by author 2004-08-06 06:24:46. |
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08/06/2004 06:42:16 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by pearcer:
Originally posted by airatic:
Good news, that user has been indefinitely suspended! That's probably why my score went up :) |
Yay! His comments were neither helpful or inspiring. He has only hurt himself by his stupid actions. All I can say is bye bye to him and thanks for comming.
Edited again cause I can't spell, lol |
When this person put the comment on my effort, I thought he was a bit negitive and definatly didnt have a sense of humour. I didnt realise just how negative 'till a few moments ago. I'm now looking forward to my score going up too.....lol |
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08/06/2004 08:03:07 AM · #80 |
I thought I would mention this because I've seen a couple of posts saying how some voters only have negative things to say and use that as an excuse to lower their votes. I usually comment on things good and bad but give scores based on quality and general presentation.
So, because someone says something that you think is negative, it doesn't mean it's that commenter that is giving you the low score. My median vote is 5, it goes up if it's of good quality and goes down if it's oof or cluttered or not good. I very rarely give a 3 or under. |
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08/06/2004 12:21:00 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by Digital Quixote:
Originally posted by louddog:
Someone should write a tutorial on how to vote since no one can seem to get it right. |
Firstly, I mean no disrespect to you, but I'd like you to consider another perspective. Saying no one can get it right is like saying no one voted right in an election. Or that the price of a share of stock moved the wrong direction because no one bought or sold right.
DPC is a perfect example of a perfect market. Evryone has access to exactly the same information at exactly the same time. They express their informed opinion in exactly the same way. And the voters (collectively) are exactly right exactly all the time. We may not share the view of the market. The market may be full of voters with unequally distributed taste, talent or ability to discriminate. But it is perfect.
This doesn't mean the voters can't become more knowledgeable or that the mechanism can't be improved. It surely can.
My simple advice is, "don't fight the problem. If you're unhappy with the decisions of Mr. Market, take and present better photos."
I am grumpy with the performance of my last two submissions. But their performance is my fault for not seeing flaws others saw, for not thinking hard enough about composition, for choosing a subject that fit the challenge less well than others, for being satisfied with post processing too soon. But not the fault of the voters who can't seem to get it right. |
My original comment was pure sacasm. I've never complained about a score I received and I think most of this complaining is just silly.
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08/06/2004 12:57:45 PM · #82 |
The communication of artist to the public is an age old debate. The artist often gets carried away and defends his or hers offsprings. Some of the greatest masterpieces in music put many to sleep. And many stare at a master painting in complete disbelief that this is considered great art.
Well, all places where people meet are composed of this motley balance. DPC is no different. You see, I believe that you learn by studying the works in your field. In this case photography. The more you look, the more you fine tune your taste, which leads to better compositions. I do not know one artist that knows it all. Learning never ends.
Those that give up in a field may chose to become critics and these are the most opiniated. They already have a perception of what a photograph should like. These are the ones that are so anxious to change your picture around according to the blue prints of composition.
Rules of composition are great and serve as good guideline, however, keep in mind that these rules are after the fact. Scholars who have studied masterpieces. Yet, if you spend the proper time you will instinctively reach these conclussions yourself.
Employing the art of looking means that the photographs you thought were so great today may not look that good a few years hence.
So, yes, each of us has a criteria by which we judge a photograph or a work of art. The greatest danger we fall into is when we allow out strong likes and dislikes. These not only hamper our personal expression, but the creative process itself.
By looking at some of the examples this thresd started with, I can suggest that some were good ideas which did not receive all the special attention they required. So, while the photographs look interesting, they simply lacked that little extra to make them oustanding. This is where I come back that your sharpen your eye by looking and you can never see enough. I do not think the voters are getting worse. They are the same motley crew. |
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