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07/29/2004 05:21:54 PM · #26
I don't know how relevent lens quality is when you size an image to 600 pixels wide and save as a compressed JPG.... but that's a nice picture.

The Canon Kit lens is OK.... I would never want to use it on a 10D equivelent or above though....

It works great on the 'light' 300D... 10D is much heavier and suits the heavier higher quality lenses...
07/29/2004 05:33:13 PM · #27
WOW, I didnt' realize what I had started here. Anyway, I really don't have any complaints about the kit lens. As a matter of fact, the picture I chose to submit to the Miniature challenge was taken with the kit lens. I also tooke some with my new 50mm 1.8 Canon lens, and I have to say, I'm not impressed so far.

The kit lens might not be L glass, but it's not total crap either. Perhaps I'll change my mind when I get my first L lens, but I plan to use this lens as long as it "lives" because I like the wide angle it provides and I can't afford or justify the purchase of a $600 wide angle to medium telephoto lens right now. Maybe if I upgraded the camera to one that didn't take that lens, I would buy one. For now, I'm sticking to my kit lens.

June

edit: typo

Message edited by author 2004-07-29 17:33:48.
07/29/2004 05:47:11 PM · #28
Originally posted by chiqui74:

.....I also tooke some with my new 50mm 1.8 Canon lens, and I have to say, I'm not impressed so far.


Wow! Maybe you got a bad copy. I have the standard lens package that most 300D users have (kit, 50 1.8, 28-135 IS) and I have to say that the 50 1.8 is outstanding. I still like the kit lens very much, but the quality is not even close to the 50 1.8.
07/29/2004 05:51:32 PM · #29
Originally posted by K-Rob:

Originally posted by chiqui74:

.....I also tooke some with my new 50mm 1.8 Canon lens, and I have to say, I'm not impressed so far.


Wow! Maybe you got a bad copy. I have the standard lens package that most 300D users have (kit, 50 1.8, 28-135 IS) and I have to say that the 50 1.8 is outstanding. I still like the kit lens very much, but the quality is not even close to the 50 1.8.


Maybe I just to experiment more with it. I need to get out and use it, but I'm working nights which really sucks cause I sleep all day and don't have the opportunity to go anywhere. I think my friend and I are going to a market in a neighboring town sometime this weekend so I might bring it with me. This market is very colorful and interesting. We'll see.

June
07/29/2004 05:52:27 PM · #30
I have to agree with K Rob. The 50mm f1.8 is great value and takes very sharp pictures (compared with the kit)

The 28-135 USM IS is a great lens also... sharper than the kit, not quite as sharp as the 50mm...

07/29/2004 05:55:03 PM · #31
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:


You realize that currently that lens only fits the Canon 300D camera. Canon may modify future lens mounts so that they can accept the EF-S lens (of which the 18-55 is the only lens in public existence today). Of course, they didn't make that change to the 1D mark II but perhaps they are saving the -S designation and lens mounts for their non-professional grade camera bodies but that's academic.


The reason why the 1D mk2 does not have an EF-S capable mount is that the CMOS of the mk2 is considerably larger compared to the 300D/10D one. The image circle of EF-S is too small for that 1.3x crop sensor. Not that I can imagine anyone using it on such a camera anyway.
If future camera's will be EF-S compatible depends on the CMOS used. If the new 10D is EF-S compatible it would mean that it still has the 1.6x sensor and that would be a big disappointment in my opinion.

I also don't believe that a 10D-like camera will be shipped with a kit lens. So that 20D might well be a 300D succesor. Like the current 10D/300D sensor, with Digic 2 and full 10D controls and menus in a plastic body for the same price as the 300D at introduction (the D70 competitor). The 300D could stay but with a lower price.
07/29/2004 05:55:47 PM · #32
Originally posted by hsteg:

yall think its gonna cost more or less than the 10d?


Same or less.
07/29/2004 06:01:48 PM · #33
Originally posted by Chrisds:

I have to agree with K Rob. The 50mm f1.8 is great value and takes very sharp pictures (compared with the kit)

The 28-135 USM IS is a great lens also... sharper than the kit, not quite as sharp as the 50mm...


I'm sorry, I just had to share. This has to be one of my favorites so far with the 50mm 1.8. I don't have the exif with me but this was handheld at 1/30sec, I believe.


07/29/2004 06:25:03 PM · #34
I found this link!
Link
And it says:

An upgraded 10D replacement will be announced in September - probability 90%
and assuming this is correct then:

Model number D20 - probability 60%
It will have a 1.6x sensor - probability 90%
It will be 6MP - Probability 80%
...or it will be 8MP - Probability 20%
It will have E-TTL II - probability 100%
Price will be at or around the $1500 level - probability 80%
It will hit the streets by November - probability 80%
It will have an EF-S compatible lens mount - probability 100%
There will be new EF-S lens(es) - probability 75%
It will be available as "body only" and as a "kit" with a new EFS lens - probability 70%
07/29/2004 06:55:33 PM · #35
Originally posted by chiqui74:

I also tooke some with my new 50mm 1.8 Canon lens, and I have to say, I'm not impressed so far.



So far I am happy with my 50mm 1.8 lens. I took this picture last saturday .
07/29/2004 07:01:30 PM · #36
Originally posted by siggi:

I found this link!
Link
And it says:

An upgraded 10D replacement will be announced in September - probability 90%
and assuming this is correct then:
[... stuff cut ...]


How disappointingly boring that would be... from what you posted, it would seem to be E-TTL II and a shorter focal distance with a moved mirror.

Message edited by author 2004-07-29 19:02:36.
07/29/2004 07:53:06 PM · #37
Remember these are all Rumours! Nobody will know for sure until September.
07/30/2004 01:54:14 AM · #38
Originally posted by siggi:

There will be new EF-S lens(es) - probability 75%


I have seen several interviews with Canon Japan and Canon Europe people that the EF-S that came with the 300D was a special one within the EF range and that the chance is very small that more EF-S lenses will be developed.
Also because the EF-S design only works well for wideangle lenses and past 50mm you can just as well use EF lenses of which there are plenty.


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