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 07/22/2004 07:24:12 AM · #1
So here it is, I finally made one that I liked.
Let me know what you guys think of it:D


07/22/2004 07:57:07 AM · #2
Is this a duotone or black and white? I'm no expert, but here goes... I think the image would benefit from some dodging and burning since it doesn't have much contrast. Other than that, I like it but I wonder what it looks like in color.

June
 07/22/2004 08:00:44 AM · #3
I did burn in the sky a little, but I was afraid of over doing it.
So you think that I should burn it a little more then?
This may be silly but, what is dodge? I've never used it,
so I'm not sure what it does.
 07/22/2004 08:05:28 AM · #4
Dodging does the opposite of burning. I haven't perfected either technique yet, but i'm working hard on it. Just practice, practice, practice and mess around with the picture until you get results you like. It's not like you'll be wasting film or paper or anything like that....Oh...the wonders of digital photography....!!!!

June
 07/22/2004 08:07:39 AM · #5
I see, yeah I guess it certainly could benefit from that!
thanks!
 07/22/2004 08:44:33 AM · #6
It's a great shot. Can't wait to see the dodge/burn results! :)
 07/22/2004 09:42:35 AM · #7
Originally posted by KarenB:
It's a great shot. Can't wait to see the dodge/burn results! :)


I will try this later tonight right now I am at work:(
07/22/2004 10:47:39 AM · #8
I love it Dave. I've been experimenting with Duotone for the past couple of days and I haven't come up with *anything* yet that I like. I keep thinking, there must be some "secret" for how you pick the secondary color. But from everyone I've heard from, it sounds like more art than science. Good job!
 07/22/2004 11:39:44 AM · #9
What colors did you use? It looks like a greyscale to me. Dodging and burning may help, or choosing a darker tone to darken the image a little more may too. You could play with levels/curves too.
 07/22/2004 12:05:18 PM · #10
Originally posted by moodville:
What colors did you use? It looks like a greyscale to me. Dodging and burning may help, or choosing a darker tone to darken the image a little more may too. You could play with levels/curves too.


I used kind of a brownish color.
Do you have any color suggestions?
 07/22/2004 12:07:37 PM · #11
Originally posted by dwterry:
I love it Dave. I've been experimenting with Duotone for the past couple of days and I haven't come up with *anything* yet that I like. I keep thinking, there must be some "secret" for how you pick the secondary color. But from everyone I've heard from, it sounds like more art than science. Good job!


Yeah it appears that some have a knack for picking the right colors,
I'm not one of them! I just kept going through the long list of colors
till I found one that liked.:) Crude and time inducing, but, it worked.
 07/22/2004 12:27:43 PM · #12


That's just a quickie based on your posted image. A slightly darker brown tone with a quick dodge/burn to bring out the clouds. Of course I'm no Heida, but I think it puts a little more drama into it. A little extreme maybe, but you get the general idea.
 07/22/2004 12:38:41 PM · #13
Originally posted by moodville:


That's just a quickie based on your posted image. A slightly darker brown tone with a quick dodge/burn to bring out the clouds. Of course I'm no Heida, but I think it puts a little more drama into it. A little extreme maybe, but you get the general idea.


Waooo... Moodville, that is Kool. what a change. I think you over did it a little but still looks awesome.
 07/22/2004 12:39:59 PM · #14
07/22/2004 12:45:05 PM · #15
Comment no longer applies as original image changed.

Message edited by author 2004-07-22 18:03:05.
 07/22/2004 12:48:13 PM · #16
WOW!
I'm not worthy!!!
 07/22/2004 03:07:30 PM · #17
I like the more dramatic clouds in pitsaman's image ... but the bridge is too dark and the waves appear frozen (perhaps too much sharpening was applied).

I think moodville's version is more effective. The clouds are again more dramatic while leaving the rest of the image intact.

07/22/2004 03:35:23 PM · #18
Okay, see what you think of this one Dave... I tried not to make the clouds quite so harsh. And I played a bit with the duotone here. I used black and PANTONE 4645 M. Whatdya think?

07/22/2004 04:33:51 PM · #19
Originally posted by dwterry:
Okay, see what you think of this one Dave... I tried not to make the clouds quite so harsh. And I played a bit with the duotone here. I used black and PANTONE 4645 M. Whatdya think?



This is cool, but I have to admit that moodville's has more impact. I was never a fan of dodging and burning, mostly because I didn't know how to do it, but now I just love it.

June
 07/22/2004 05:02:56 PM · #20
I minimally modified your image (no dodging/burning) -- one Curve on the grayscale channel, converted to Duotone with Black and PANTONE 5487 CVC, then to RGB for the final JPEG.

07/22/2004 05:30:12 PM · #21
Ok. Looking at these I have to ask a really dumb question. When people say duotone do they type black and then another color in some place in ps? Isn't black and white sorta automatic? Has anyone ever done a duotone on a regular picture that didn't have black and white also? I'm confused about the terms used.
***Please don't post that eye burning popart one with the letters. I'm curious about pictures like the ones posted.***
 07/22/2004 05:43:47 PM · #22
Duotones don't have to use black as one of the colors. It can be any two colors (the "white" of the paper doesn't count as a color for these purposes!).

Message edited by author 2004-07-22 17:45:59.
 07/22/2004 05:45:08 PM · #23
Ansel Adams prints {like posters and cards) are printed in quadtones -- four different inks on offset presses -- and none of the colors is "black."

Using two shades of gray inks is common as well.

Message edited by author 2004-07-22 17:45:41.
 07/22/2004 05:49:18 PM · #24
OK. But do you have someplace in ps where you specify the two colors?
 07/22/2004 05:49:49 PM · #25
Duotones are contructed in Photoshop by starting with a Grayscale image, then going to Image > Mode > Duotone.

You'll get a dialog box where you have a choice of using 1-4 inks, and then assigning an ink color and tone curve to each. The tone curves map the grayscale pixel value to some output value for that color based on the curve you designate.

Load up a preset (Load button in the Duotone dialog -- look for a folder of presets in the PS application folder) and you'll see how it works pretty quickly.

Message edited by author 2004-07-22 17:52:43.
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