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06/08/2004 06:23:04 PM · #51 |
My issue is probably one that affects dSLR's and any other cameras that shoot in RAW mode.
I wish it created a RAW file and a SEPARATE jpg file.
If I go out for a day's shooting I might come back with several 100 shots, all but 2 will be hopeless.
I would like to be able to instantly flick through them as JPG's, say using ACDSee or similar, and only then go in and play with the RAW versions of the few I might keep.
The best I can get is CaptureOne, at least I can look at then relatively easily, but still takes far longer than I would like.
I also don't get the reason for the different sizes of JPG images you store along with the RAW file, as you can'd view them well anyway, but that may be my misunderstanding.
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06/08/2004 06:26:12 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by Natator:
My issue is probably one that affects dSLR's and any other cameras that shoot in RAW mode.
I wish it created a RAW file and a SEPARATE jpg file.
If I go out for a day's shooting I might come back with several 100 shots, all but 2 will be hopeless.
I would like to be able to instantly flick through them as JPG's, say using ACDSee or similar, and only then go in and play with the RAW versions of the few I might keep.
The best I can get is CaptureOne, at least I can look at then relatively easily, but still takes far longer than I would like.
I also don't get the reason for the different sizes of JPG images you store along with the RAW file, as you can'd view them well anyway, but that may be my misunderstanding. |
It depends on your viewer. Decent RAW viewers will use the embedded JPEG as the preview. CaptureOne is terrible in this respect.
I use BreezeBrowser purely because it is very fast for this initial preview. It uses (and can extract) the embedded JPEGs for the initial review. If you use a small embedded JPEG, you can use it really only as a preview/ thumbnail. If you embed a larger JPEG, it could be used for web preview/ final proof, without requiring RAW conversion (gives you the speed of shooting JPEGs, with the backup option of improved dynamic range/ error tolerance of using RAW)
I then use CaptureOne to convert any RAW files that survive the first couple of editing passes that I make.
Message edited by author 2004-06-08 18:27:57.
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06/08/2004 06:30:44 PM · #53 |
Get hold of the newly published Canon EOS Viewer, much better than the old File Viewer, and shows the raw images in a screen sized window. It takes about 1 to 2 seconds to pull up a raw image and resolve it to fine focus. heres the link.
Canon EOS Viewer |
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06/08/2004 06:33:25 PM · #54 |
I finally thought of something to add here, after initially concluding that I couldn't think of anything that I didn't like about mine.
I don't like the fact that it's relatively easy to get dust specs on the CCD. They show up rather often, particularly on shots with small f-stops, and it drives me bonkers. And I'm scared to death of trying to clean the thing... |
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06/08/2004 06:38:16 PM · #55 |
CCD Cleaning instructions
Worth reading, and worth investing in the little tool he sells. $7.50.
I got one a few weeks ago, and cleaned a good 6 months worth of grime off the ccd with no harm. |
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06/08/2004 06:49:41 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by Falc:
Get hold of the newly published Canon EOS Viewer, much better than the old File Viewer, and shows the raw images in a screen sized window. It takes about 1 to 2 seconds to pull up a raw image and resolve it to fine focus. Viewer[/url] |
Thanks, I'll check it out. I can't look at it until tonight, so a quick question .....
Does this only work when you have the camera connected to the PC, or can it also work off the Compact Flash card in a reader as well?
Gordon: I'll definitely look into that Breezeblower thing as well as that sounds very promising indeed.
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06/08/2004 07:05:19 PM · #57 |
| I use it with the reader so no need for the camera |
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06/09/2004 11:08:14 AM · #58 |
natator, i believe you can shoot RAW+JPG on your 10d. after you pull the files off, just move the jpgs to a separate folder to "proof" them :)
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06/09/2004 11:27:36 AM · #59 |
On the 10D, when shooting in raw mode, the camera always embeds a JPEG into the raw file. Through a custom function, you can set this embedded JPEG to be the smallest size (1536x1024?) and have the most compression, which minimizes space used on your CF cards.
Once you download the images (I highly recommend the very-customizable Downloader Pro tool), you can extract these embedded JPEGs very quickly, or browse them using tools like BreezeBrowser. Since it is simply "pulling the JPEG" out of the raw file and not doing any raw processing, it is very fast, and makes reviewing raw images for "proofing" very easy. |
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06/09/2004 02:05:32 PM · #60 |
| A week?! Wow, My camera is pretty new and so are my batteries, but I usually only get 2 days out of them. I use the onboard flash though, so I am sure that eats up a lot. I don't have an external yet, but I am hoping for one! Anyhow, that's great your batteries last about a week! I guess i take too many pictures! |
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06/09/2004 02:12:49 PM · #61 |
My batteries don't last a week, I don't use flash but I do use the Image Stabalizer on the 75-300 a great deal, I'm sure that just sucks the battery dry.
I guess I get about 3 days max, so I carry two spare batteries at all times |
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06/09/2004 02:20:27 PM · #62 |
my least favorite feature of dSLR's is that stupid little whachacallitt thing...the pricetag.
Message edited by author 2004-06-09 14:20:56.
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06/11/2004 10:04:04 AM · #63 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
On the 10D, when shooting in raw mode, the camera always embeds a JPEG into the raw file. Through a custom function, you can set this embedded JPEG to be the smallest size (1536x1024?) and have the most compression, which minimizes space used on your CF cards.
Once you download the images (I highly recommend the very-customizable Downloader Pro tool), you can extract these embedded JPEGs very quickly, or browse them using tools like BreezeBrowser. Since it is simply "pulling the JPEG" out of the raw file and not doing any raw processing, it is very fast, and makes reviewing raw images for "proofing" very easy. |
so the canon doesn't make a separate file for the jpeg? that sucks :( when i shoot raw on my D70, the JPG's are separate, which makes it easier when i copy the files off. i just figured all of 'em did that.
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06/11/2004 10:08:10 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
so the canon doesn't make a separate file for the jpeg? that sucks :( when i shoot raw on my D70, the JPG's are separate, which makes it easier when i copy the files off. i just figured all of 'em did that. |
Yup, I have to click one entire whole menu item, once, to get all the JPEGs from a shoot. It is such a dragggggg.....
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06/11/2004 10:23:27 AM · #65 |
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
so the canon doesn't make a separate file for the jpeg? |
Not all Canon's are like that. On my camera when shooting in raw it creates a .CR2 raw file, and if I choose to also have the camera create a JPEG (which can be completely disabled to allow more shots on the CF or SD cards), it creates a separate .JPG file. (I have Downloader Pro configured to download the raws and JPEGs into separate date-stamped directories. It rocks.)
But as Gordon points out, it is No Big Deal to select "Extract Embedded JPEGs..." from the menu. And there is one benefit to having them combined in one file -- as you are going through a shoot looking for "keepers", when you delete the .CRW file (which contains the embedded JPEG), you don't have to go find the corresponding .JPG file and delete it too...
Message edited by author 2004-06-11 10:24:56. |
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06/11/2004 10:42:02 AM · #66 |
3 days, that's so short ;)
Originally posted by Falc:
My batteries don't last a week, I don't use flash but I do use the Image Stabalizer on the 75-300 a great deal, I'm sure that just sucks the battery dry.
I guess I get about 3 days max, so I carry two spare batteries at all times |
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06/11/2004 10:44:09 AM · #67 |
i dont use the onboard flash much. i'd guess that's a huge power drain.
anyway, the week thing was give or take .. point being that leaving your camera on doesn't result in an instantly dead battery, so there's no point in being worried about 'should i turn it off to conserve power'.
Originally posted by mirdonamy:
A week?! Wow, My camera is pretty new and so are my batteries, but I usually only get 2 days out of them. I use the onboard flash though, so I am sure that eats up a lot. I don't have an external yet, but I am hoping for one! Anyhow, that's great your batteries last about a week! I guess i take too many pictures! |
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06/11/2004 10:50:01 AM · #68 |
Problem with Breezebrowser is that it doesn't do fast conversion of RAW and real time editing capability (adjust white balance and see it immediately).
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Natator:
My issue is probably one that affects dSLR's and any other cameras that shoot in RAW mode.
I wish it created a RAW file and a SEPARATE jpg file.
If I go out for a day's shooting I might come back with several 100 shots, all but 2 will be hopeless.
I would like to be able to instantly flick through them as JPG's, say using ACDSee or similar, and only then go in and play with the RAW versions of the few I might keep.
The best I can get is CaptureOne, at least I can look at then relatively easily, but still takes far longer than I would like.
I also don't get the reason for the different sizes of JPG images you store along with the RAW file, as you can'd view them well anyway, but that may be my misunderstanding. |
It depends on your viewer. Decent RAW viewers will use the embedded JPEG as the preview. CaptureOne is terrible in this respect.
I use BreezeBrowser purely because it is very fast for this initial preview. It uses (and can extract) the embedded JPEGs for the initial review. If you use a small embedded JPEG, you can use it really only as a preview/ thumbnail. If you embed a larger JPEG, it could be used for web preview/ final proof, without requiring RAW conversion (gives you the speed of shooting JPEGs, with the backup option of improved dynamic range/ error tolerance of using RAW)
I then use CaptureOne to convert any RAW files that survive the first couple of editing passes that I make. |
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06/11/2004 10:52:30 AM · #69 |
Originally posted by paganini:
Problem with Breezebrowser is that it doesn't do fast conversion of RAW and real time editing capability (adjust white balance and see it immediately).
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Yup, that's why I use CaptureOne, though the problem with CaptureOne is that it does real slow initial review and is terribly slow at JPEG decode (which are the two things I use breezebrowser for)
It would be great to have one product that did both parts well, but I haven't seen it yet.
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06/11/2004 11:15:00 AM · #70 |
D70, the one single most annoying thing is the on-camera view zoom stopping a few steps too early to really tell if the image is sharp or not. Why oh why did they put a limit to the zoom? Might it even be in a firmware update some day?
Really, this is nitpicking anyway, it does zoom pretty far and I'm just very happy with my D70. I'd recommend it to anyone without reservation. Haven't heard / read anyone out there who actually isn't satisfied with it..
Edit: Found another annoying thing with it - when used as a master for a remote flash, you can't actually use the on-board flash, it only serves as the trigger for the remote. Would have been neat to be able to use it as a flash during the exposure too.. Oh well..
Message edited by author 2004-09-06 06:49:28.
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06/11/2004 12:03:19 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by Konador:
Having to compose through the viewfinder is definatly a drawback in those awkward angled situations, such as low on the ground or high in the air. Also, the size makes it harder to be discreet. The fact it's so expensive also means I'm worried to take it to a lot of places where I would like to take photos (parties etc). I'm now trying to win a smaller cam since I'm broke :) |
Why do you worrie about taking it with you to parties? I always take my camera with me. The only time I keep it home is when I drink some ... you know water ;) ... |
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