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08/27/2018 08:56:01 AM · #1
Is this just a fancy way of saying “stopped motion” ?
08/27/2018 09:02:53 AM · #2
Yes, I too would like a better explaination...
08/27/2018 10:22:12 AM · #3
original thread
08/27/2018 10:42:05 AM · #4
I'm not sure any explanations would be very useful in helping me select what to produce or predict how voters might react. "Objective" nature of time might be shown via images of instruments that measure time or items relating to deadlines or schedules. "Subjective" nature of time might be shown by images of people waiting/hurrying/anticipating/dreading/etc. "Comparative" nature of time might be shown by juxtaposition of new and old (items/people/etc.) or locations (cemetery/crib, etc.) or things that have changed over time (book/iPad, buggy/car, etc.). "Passage" of time might be shown by blur or by effects of weathering/erosion/etc. "Temporary" nature of things across time could be shown by images of rapid or slow change. "Instantaneous" nature of moments of time might be captured as something frozen mid-motion. "Sequential" nature of time suggests series of objects that have changed over time. "Timeless" is a concept that might produce images of unchanging universal things. Of course, these few ideas do not exhaust the possibilities. I am expecting to see and enjoy a broad variety of creative entries.
08/27/2018 11:29:56 AM · #5
Originally posted by Neat:

Is this just a fancy way of saying “stopped motion” ?

I think perhaps the opposite. :-)
08/27/2018 03:38:45 PM · #6
It means slow shutter speed to me.
08/27/2018 03:40:18 PM · #7
Googled it:
2. Nature of Time - - The Unreal Universe
theunrealuniverse.com/2-nature-of-time
The true nature of time is something to be kept in mind in understanding its place in the foundations of physics. For instance, one way of looking at the time dilation in the special theory of relativity is to understand that time is merely a matter of definition. ... It is also connected with the indirect sense of time.

Ok.. hmmm.. uh.. whatever.
08/27/2018 03:51:28 PM · #8
Originally posted by digifotojo:

Googled it:
2. Nature of Time - - The Unreal Universe
theunrealuniverse.com/2-nature-of-time
The true nature of time is something to be kept in mind in understanding its place in the foundations of physics. For instance, one way of looking at the time dilation in the special theory of relativity is to understand that time is merely a matter of definition. ... It is also connected with the indirect sense of time.

Ok.. hmmm.. uh.. whatever.


LOL, that was how I read it too.
08/27/2018 04:22:08 PM · #9
Re: A photograph captures a span of time, which this website calls "Shutter Speed." Take a photograph that provides insight into how time works.

So, movement of some type, whether it's birds flying or someone running, would signify capturing a span of time via shutter speed. Even so, the span of time could also include something motionless as that is also capturing a span of time. If you think about it, this takes in a lot of possibilities.
08/27/2018 05:20:24 PM · #10
It's in the great tradition of DPC that when challenges of an abstract/obscure nature are posted that's followed by a thread attempting to "pin down" the "real meaning" of the challenge: that is to say, to turn the abstract concrete, or to distill clarity out of obscurity. The alternative to that, and the approach I prefer (speaking for myself here) is to park your logical brain at the door and go all medieval on your stream-of-consciousness, inner self until something bizarre, twisted, and hopefully fabulous works its way into being through your camera :-)
08/27/2018 05:21:13 PM · #11
Titles will be important in this one - not that aren't at other times too I guess.

ETA - I can't wait to see the title on Robert's entry. :-)

Message edited by author 2018-08-27 17:22:14.
08/27/2018 09:44:41 PM · #12
This is about as clear as mud for me...can you help a block head out here...do you have any examples...
08/27/2018 10:04:49 PM · #13
@Ja-9 - if you think that's confusing, check this out:

//listverse.com/2018/06/12/10-interesting-conceptions-on-the-nature-of-time/
08/27/2018 10:45:52 PM · #14
Sounds like "Take a photograph that illustrates a physics problem"
//www.studyphysics.ca/newnotes/20/unit01_kinematicsdynamics/chp04_acceleration/lesson11.htm

Message edited by author 2018-08-27 22:47:29.
08/28/2018 12:53:22 AM · #15
From Ja-9's link: "As Einstein himself once said, “When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute—then it’s longer than any hour. That’s relativity!” So time is, at best, a flexible construct of the mind, one that has many facets to it, many ways of looking at and experiencing it."

Surely most, if not all, of us can remember when we were kids and summer lasted forever? Now as an adult it seems to me summer's no sooner arrived than it's gone and the nip of fall is in the air.

We each have our own, personal relationship with time, literally. Time's not something that "exists", it's a human construct, a way of trying to grasp or understand the vast continuum that is the universe we inhabit.

When we think of "the passage of time", when we think of time as passing, we are committing basically the same fallacy as scholars who believed in a geocentric universe where the earth was a fixed point and everything else revolved around it. In a similar way, it seems to be nearly impossible for us to comprehend that WE are not ourselves a fixed point, like a rock in a river, about which time "flows". No, time is a continuum and we travel across or within it. The only fixed "point in time" is ALL time.

Or something like that :-) I swear it's true! Or dig up/create your own perceptions and shoot 'em :-)

Message edited by author 2018-08-28 00:54:49.
08/28/2018 05:48:06 AM · #16
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

It's in the great tradition of DPC that when challenges of an abstract/obscure nature are posted that's followed by a thread attempting to "pin down" the "real meaning" of the challenge: that is to say, to turn the abstract concrete, or to distill clarity out of obscurity. The alternative to that, and the approach I prefer (speaking for myself here) is to park your logical brain at the door and go all medieval on your stream-of-consciousness, inner self until something bizarre, twisted, and hopefully fabulous works its way into being through your camera :-)


I don't know that we're really trying to pin it down -- just trying to understand it.

I always find these threads extremely interesting and helpful. Both from a shooting standpoint and a voting standpoint.

I don't think it narrows it -- I think it actually expands it.

When I was reading the description, the "shutter speed" part had narrowed it down way too much, and I was thinking that had to be a main aspect of the challenge. In reading all the different interpretations, I'm realizing that my view was too narrow. A shot of the Grand Canyon would have been the last thing I would have connected with shutter speed. But these discussions always give a bit of insight. I occasionally wonder if the challenges would be more interesting if you were allowed to have a small paragraph explaining things like they do in art museums. Insight into the mind of the artist almost always makes things more interesting.

Don't ever shut these down. Exploration is such a key part of art.
08/28/2018 06:15:02 AM · #17
If we think of a happy event, like winning that blue ribbon, where and when is that event happening? If we think of a future sad event, like getting that nasty brown ribbon, where and when is that event happening? Both can only happen now and in our own perception or consciousness, it’s not possible that they can happen elsewhere because nothing can happen outside of our own perception. Try thinking of something outside of your own consciousness, as soon as something appears, there is consciousness of it so therefore it is in it. The appearance of time is totally dependent on the false assumption of there being a separate entity or individual, a psycho somatic misconception that is responsible for apparent time, space and the story of me. The apparent individual can never see this, why would it, it would be it’s death, it would be the end of seeing absolutely everything through the filter of “what can this mean to me”
No knowing, no meaning, no time, no space, no death, no birth, no me, only the bliss of free fall but for no one.
08/28/2018 09:09:42 AM · #18
I'm thinking many of the entries in Defining Moment may help here.
08/28/2018 11:53:58 AM · #19
Shutter speed isn't speed at all. 1/500th of a second is a shutter speed, but that's not how you measure speed. 1/500th of a second is a span of time.

The aperture is the light you are putting in your camera.
The shutter speed is the time you are putting in your camera.

So a photograph is a combination of light and time.
08/28/2018 01:28:08 PM · #20
Originally posted by posthumous:

â€Â¦ So a photograph is a combination of light and time.


Physics aside, on another level a photograph is also a combination of imagination and exploration.
08/28/2018 03:15:50 PM · #21
Originally posted by bob350:

Originally posted by posthumous:

â€Â¦ So a photograph is a combination of light and time.


Physics aside, on another level a photograph is also a combination of imagination and exploration.


<emphasis added above> ... ^

Sounds like potential challenge themes?
08/28/2018 03:20:22 PM · #22
TIME has traditionally been printed on medium-quality glossy paper with a slightly conservative (from my POV) editorial leaning ...

08/28/2018 04:09:17 PM · #23
Originally posted by GeneralE:

TIME has traditionally been printed on medium-quality glossy paper with a slightly conservative (from my POV) editorial leaning ...



Insert a HUGE Rolling Eye Emoji!!! (Can we please use/get emojis????)
08/28/2018 10:43:22 PM · #24
How about a time machine with Yvette Mimieux and some Morlocks!
09/01/2018 10:28:27 AM · #25
I can’t come up with anything....if someone has time to give me some ideas...PM me...this is a huge blank....and I have time to go shoot...
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