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06/07/2004 09:49:16 AM · #26 |
Of course, we've all revisited Mag's DOF tutorial haven't we?
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06/07/2004 09:52:15 AM · #27 |
| I'm at about the same score with no comments. My scene includes objects ranging from about three feet away to over a hundred feet away, all in "good enough" focus to be clearly recognizable ... I am mystified ... |
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06/07/2004 10:03:11 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Well, I've had 2 comments, both saying my shot shows a good use of deep depth of field...but both comments discuss my oversaturization of colors (which was intentional BTW). I didn't know that would be a bad thing. Guess I'll just have to settle for the brown ribbon this time! :o)
Deep Depth of Field
Votes: 45
Avg Vote: 4.3778
Comments: 2
Updated: 06/07/04 09:43 am |
You've got a long way to go to catch me!;)
After looking at my picture again, I think it may be that it isn't very good as well as not meeting the challenge. I did it last night at about 11:00 when a good idea finally came to me, so I was dead tired when I submitted it. Anything looks good when your eyes are half glazed over....
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06/07/2004 10:27:54 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by garrywhite2:
Rejected because you don't feel they have deep Depth of Field? |
No, because I didn't feel they were as visually appealing as my submission.
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06/07/2004 11:18:46 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by Neuferland:
Originally posted by Konador:
Originally posted by Neuferland:
And I'll say right now any macro shots and shallow DOF are getting below a 5 from me no matter how well they are done. |
A macro shot can have a deep DoF can't it? |
If they can then I totally MISUNDERSTOOD what Deep DOF meant. A macro to me is upclose, not a lot space and no real depth that can been seen.
Deannda
Am I wrong? |
It depends. It is very hard to get a really deep depth of field in a macro shot, as the available, potential depth of field is related to focal length, aperture size and lens<->subject distance.
Realtively speaking, a macro shot can have deep or shallow DoF, but compared to a landscape shot, a macro shot would always have shallower DoF, in absolute terms.
SO, it certainly is possible to have a deep DoF macro shot, compared to an equivalent shallow DoF macro shot (shoot two macros of the same scene, one at f2.8, one at f45 to see the difference for example)
It depends whether you view the challenge topic as a relative comparision or some sort of absolute measure (in which case, if you didn't use something approaching a 1mm focal length wide angle fish eye, stopped down to f64 or beyond then you don't have a deep depth of field and should be scored under 5 as well...)
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06/07/2004 11:24:52 AM · #31 |
Anyone who posted a macro is playing with fire in this challenge. The controversial aspect of the DOF definition relative vs absolute meant that macros would lose 50% of the high voters no matter how good the shot.
Its the same with all challenges. Its an art to try and be innovative without breaking the safe boundaries of the challenge.
Just my thoughts. |
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06/07/2004 11:27:10 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Neuferland:
Originally posted by Konador:
Originally posted by Neuferland:
And I'll say right now any macro shots and shallow DOF are getting below a 5 from me no matter how well they are done. |
A macro shot can have a deep DoF can't it? |
If they can then I totally MISUNDERSTOOD what Deep DOF meant. A macro to me is upclose, not a lot space and no real depth that can been seen.
Deannda
Am I wrong? |
It depends. It is very hard to get a really deep depth of field in a macro shot, as the available, potential depth of field is related to focal length, aperture size and lens<->subject distance.
Realtively speaking, a macro shot can have deep or shallow DoF, but compared to a landscape shot, a macro shot would always have shallower DoF, in absolute terms.
SO, it certainly is possible to have a deep DoF macro shot, compared to an equivalent shallow DoF macro shot (shoot two macros of the same scene, one at f2.8, one at f45 to see the difference for example)
It depends whether you view the challenge topic as a relative comparision or some sort of absolute measure (in which case, if you didn't use something approaching a 1mm focal length wide angle fish eye, stopped down to f64 or beyond then you don't have a deep depth of field and should be scored under 5 as well...) |
The WINNER in the three's competition is the PERFECT example of a macro shot with a great "relative" DoF. It is generally sharp (with the exception of the closest petal) in the entire image.
But the TRUE ACTUAL DoF is a mere few centimeteres.
So - in RELATIVE terms it's deep DoF for the image and lens combination.
In ABSOLUTE terms - it would be a failure.
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06/07/2004 11:56:50 AM · #33 |
Well, I had high hopes for a ribbon when I woke up and saw my score this morning, but after voting on all of the images, there are at least ten that I think are REALLY ribbon-worthy that I'm sure are MUCH higher placed than mine and fit the challenge really well. So, no ribbon for me once again, but I'm still very happy with my entry.
I did notice that a LOT of photos were digitally oversaturated, making a dramatic shot. Yet oversaturating causes colors to "clot", especially greens and reds, removing detail. And I think that providing really fine detail throughout the image is what this challenge was all about. I think that hurt some of them.
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06/07/2004 01:16:11 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by willem:
Nobody dug a hole in a field, stuck his legs into it and took a picture to show how deep that field was ? (....just my silly mood today). |
Jeeezzz! Why didn't I think of that? ;)
I didn't enter - no time to go out and shoot or set up a shoot. I also was surprised at some of the entries that seemed not to understand the concept of deep depth of field. Some that did were great though.
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06/07/2004 01:44:57 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by ACPhotoDesign:
Originally posted by willem:
Nobody dug a hole in a field, stuck his legs into it and took a picture to show how deep that field was ? (....just my silly mood today). |
Jeeezzz! Why didn't I think of that? ;) |
I think I suggested a picture of someone standing in a nearly flat pasture when someone was stuck for an idea for the "Shallow DOF" Challenge :) |
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