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06/03/2004 02:19:16 PM · #1 |
I need to buy some new software for editing...I have nothing very good now, what does everyone think they can't live without?
What software is neccesity?
THANKS -- BTW I have about a $250 budget |
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06/03/2004 02:30:15 PM · #2 |
I think PhotoShop is THE standard here, with Neat Image used after editing. I just ordered PS Elements 2, hoping that will be enough to keep up eventually with the PS "Pro" users. (Any comments on that would be welcome!) There is also another Neat Image type product that was in a thread the other day -- it is freeware right now.MicrosSoft Image Pro 9 is a very good product, also.)
Message edited by author 2004-06-03 14:33:02.
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06/03/2004 02:36:36 PM · #3 |
A low cost solution is Ulead Photo Impact XL, it does a lot of what photo shop can but cost MUCH less,it can be found for under $100.
I use version 8 of photo impact and tried the trial version of XL and loved it. Its also easier to learn than photo shop
only draw back is there re thousands of tutorials for photoshop and not many specifically for photo impact, but they can be adjusted to work with photoimpact
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06/03/2004 02:42:14 PM · #4 |
Most of the images that have gone through Neat Image haven't impressed me much as they tend to look overprocessed and I don't care for that look. I just use Photoshop 7 at the moment and I just ordered Creative Suite Standard upgrade since I also need InDesign.
I've thought about trying Corel's Knockout since I see it at Macworld and I may have uses for it outside DPC.
As for your budget, if you know people who are students or teachers, you can ask them to buy you software at heavily discounted prices. That's how I get most of my software since my sister is in her residency and my sister-n-law is a teacher. I just googled educational discount software and I found this deal on Photoshop CS 8: $279 (SRP is $649). If you can stretch your $250 budget, I'd start there.
BTW, here is the link I found: //www.academicsuperstore.com/item/?tname=244935&title=Photoshop
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06/03/2004 02:50:34 PM · #5 |
You could shop around and find a new, unlicensed copy of an older version of Photoshop (6, 7, etc) so that you could then upgrade to CS for less than $200.00 - just a thought. Ebay or some other auction site might have the older versions pretty cheap. :o)
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06/03/2004 02:52:17 PM · #6 |
Microsoft Digital Image Pro 9 looks like a pretty cool program. i've used the Picture It! program a few times and it's very user friendly so i would assume the Digital Image Pro program would be easy to learn. it has a lot of the same features as Photoshop and it supports Photoshop plug-ins. Also, there is a $30 mail-in rebate active until Dec. 31, 2004 that would drop the price to $69.95.
Microsoft Digital Imaging
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06/03/2004 03:19:59 PM · #7 |
Check out a demo of Photoshop CS (latest version) with a 30 day free download on www.adobe.com all features are enabled.
Its a fantastic program and there are many resources on how to use it. |
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06/03/2004 04:57:02 PM · #8 |
Can someone tell me the actual differences between PS CS, PS 7, etc.? I know that they cost more and are supposed to be more "pro" than Elements, but I haven't figured out the differences beween CS and 7/9. I do think MS IMage Pro 9 has been a good jumping off place for me to get a feel for this, and now hope that I will get more from PS Elements.
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06/03/2004 05:09:34 PM · #9 |
| And then of course there is Paint Shop Pro. |
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06/03/2004 05:12:35 PM · #10 |
| I'm interested in knowing what Mac users who aren't using Photoshop are using. Along the same lines, NeatImage isn't available for Macs, though it does appear to be available to Linux or Unix, so maybe there's a way to adapt it? Thanks for your input! |
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06/03/2004 08:27:12 PM · #11 |
Try these free programs before you make the plunge-
Irfanview from IrfanView.com very good starter program, a useful tool that does some things the software that came with your camera won't do
Neat Image from NeatImage.com for removing noise from your images
Gimp from the GIMP for Windows not exactly user friendly but if you can master it you'll have a program approaching Photoshop for free, and there is a Linux version available |
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06/03/2004 08:42:59 PM · #12 |
| Also, check out PictureWindowPro from Digital Light & Color. There's a free 30-day trial. |
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06/03/2004 09:16:34 PM · #13 |
AWESOME feedback! -- Thanks -- I've tried Photoshop elements (demo for 30 days) I liked that so maybe I'll shoot for the Photoshop Pro (my wife is a student and I can get the discount)
I guess I'll check out Neat Image as well, I've had some comments on my submissions regarding noise.
THANKS! |
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06/03/2004 11:00:16 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Chefboz:
AWESOME feedback! -- Thanks -- I've tried Photoshop elements (demo for 30 days) I liked that so maybe I'll shoot for the Photoshop Pro (my wife is a student and I can get the discount)
I guess I'll check out Neat Image as well, I've had some comments on my submissions regarding noise.
THANKS! |
A legitimate educational version is a great bargain because you not only get the full program for less than half-price, you then have serial number for upgrades. |
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06/03/2004 11:04:59 PM · #15 |
| Thanks for the idea to use her student discount...I forgot about that, and she can use the software for her school projects as well! |
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06/04/2004 12:45:47 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by GeneralIE:
A legitimate educational version is a great bargain because you not only get the full program for less than half-price, you then have serial number for upgrades. |
Is it legitimate if his wife is the student? |
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06/04/2004 01:02:10 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by sher9204:
Microsoft Digital Image Pro 9 looks like a pretty cool program. i've used the Picture It! program a few times and it's very user friendly so i would assume the Digital Image Pro program would be easy to learn. it has a lot of the same features as Photoshop and it supports Photoshop plug-ins. |
I got the DIP 9 Suite (includes library much like the Adobe photobook) for $89 at Costco (with rebates). It's an awesome inexpensive way to do digital imaging. I'd put it in the PS Elements category (better IMO) with a way easier learning curve. The speak around here is a bit different though. What PS calls Duo Tones DIP calls it Emphasis... etc. etc.
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06/04/2004 01:19:00 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by GeneralIE:
A legitimate educational version is a great bargain because you not only get the full program for less than half-price, you then have serial number for upgrades. |
Is it legitimate if his wife is the student? |
If she buys it (and is a qualified student), it's legal. So long as it's installed one one machine in accordance with the license, it doesn't matter who uses it. And it's even less of an issue in community property states. |
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06/04/2004 12:29:39 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by awpollard:
I got the DIP 9 Suite (includes library much like the Adobe photobook) for $89 at Costco (with rebates). It's an awesome inexpensive way to do digital imaging. I'd put it in the PS Elements category (better IMO) with a way easier learning curve. The speak around here is a bit different though. What PS calls Duo Tones DIP calls it Emphasis... etc. etc. |
I currently use DIP 9 and I have found it to be excellent for my level. I doubt I even know half of what it can do, but it has helped to learn the basic concepts. I did however order PS Elements to start learning it since it is so widely used. Can anyone tell me the critical differences between PS Elements, PS 7 or 9 and PS CS? Are there any significant items missing in Elements that I should be forewarned about?
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06/04/2004 02:06:25 PM · #20 |
Elements or PSP are the best value (especially if you buy a Nikon, as you get elements for nothing).
Don't be so dismissive of NeatImage. Using the full version, as it was intended to work, is something very very few people ever do. When it is used correctly, all it does is eliminate the background noise of your camera.
If I shoot at levels likely to create noise issues, I always put the iage through NI first thing.
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06/05/2004 02:29:25 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by waterlilies:
I'm interested in knowing what Mac users who aren't using Photoshop are using. Along the same lines, NeatImage isn't available for Macs, though it does appear to be available to Linux or Unix, so maybe there's a way to adapt it? Thanks for your input! |
The only other major image editor for Macs (other than Photoshop and PS Elements) is called Graphic Converter. Here is a link to it at versiontracker: //versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/11559
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