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06/01/2004 08:11:52 PM · #1 |
Before starting this I got to say I have a dog of my own and don't have any problems with people taking there pets places.
I was out taking some photos at a local park this afternoon and this woman approached me and told me I couldn't take photos of the kids and I just looked at her and told her not to assume that I was taking photos of the kids. I even offered to let her look at what I was taking and all she could do was rant that I was taking photos of the kids playing basketball.
Well, the woman wouldn't stop when I realized she had 2 dogs with her and tied to a bench nearby. Oh, now there is a sign up at each entrance to the park that states NO DOGS $50 fine. I tried to shut her up by telling her that I wasn't breaking any laws and she and her dogs were.
Of course, she just wouldn't stop and she tried to knock the camera out of my hand when I took a photo of my little boy. At that point one of the teenagers playing basketball called 911. After that I took my little boy and headed to another part of the park. But took a second to turn around and capture a photo of her and her dogs in the park. =o)
The woman realized that the police were called and she left the park. Two of the teenage boys followed me to make sure I was ok and then they told me they had called the police and asked me to wait cause this wasn't the first time this woman caused problems.
The police came and they wanted a description from me and the boys of this woman. I did better I showed them everything on my camera card including the photo of her and her two dogs. They found the woman a walking a few blocks away and cited her for having her dogs in the park.
I came home with an officer and printed out a copy of the photo right away and then made a copy of the orginal file and saved it to disc for the officer.
After the way she treated me all I can say is oh how sweet revenge can be!!!
EDIT: forgot to mention only reason I took the photo of her and her dogs was I was going to go to the parks office tomorrow morning and tell them about the incident and give them the photo just to make sure she didn't work for them.
Message edited by author 2004-06-01 20:22:13.
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06/01/2004 08:22:42 PM · #2 |
Awesome!
Well, in that you got that lady back.
Man. I hate most people most of the time, and that is why.
So yeah, good job! |
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06/01/2004 08:23:31 PM · #3 |
Woohoo! High five! She had it coming.
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06/01/2004 08:31:57 PM · #4 |
There are some strange folks out there...glad she got what she deserved by being cited for having the dogs in the park. :o)
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06/01/2004 08:36:59 PM · #5 |
| hahaha great story. I am always scared that someone is going to approach me about my photo taking. Glad to see this worked out in your favor :) |
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06/01/2004 08:56:29 PM · #6 |
And congratulations to those kids for helping you out!! Glad you are safe and that things worked out well. :)
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06/01/2004 09:00:19 PM · #7 |
Where I live I am alowed to take any picture of anything that is in a public place. So if anyone dares to knock my camera or anything like that, it is verry possible I'd knock out some teeth. But giveing the fact she and you are girls you did good :D
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06/01/2004 09:05:37 PM · #8 |
OMG if someone tried knocking my cam from my hand I'd be allllllll over them! She'd have had to file the complaint, not me!
M
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06/01/2004 09:13:02 PM · #9 |
I think only reason I didn't hit her was my little boy.
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06/01/2004 09:20:28 PM · #10 |
Bravo, you handled the situation very well. Hope your little guy wasn't too traumatized. Are the authorities going to do anything about her appallingly inappropriate behavior?
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06/01/2004 09:36:13 PM · #11 |
| WOW...what an experience. And not a good one. I give you props for handling it the way that you did. |
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06/02/2004 12:17:03 AM · #12 |
This reminds me of a rather unpleasant experience I had with the Lake County, Illinois police a couple of summers ago. I was walking through Wildwood, Il, where I lived as a kid over 40 years ago, minding my own business, taking some pictures, and not bothering anybody. These cops asked me what I was doing and why I was there. Then the one cop says 'we've had complaints about people going into the parks and taking pictures of kids' and the people who live here don't like 'strangers'. Did those two yahoos think I was some kind of child pornographer? Since I wasn't breaking any laws or trespassing they couldn't really do anything to me except harass me for about 15 minutes. I could have shown them the pictures I had taken on my camera's LCD display, but I figured why go through the trouble if they are going to act like such assholes.
Another time, also in Wildwood (the people in Wildwood were busybodies 45 years ago too!) some guy got all bent out of shape because I had taken a picture of his house. He said "What do you do with the pictures you take?" I said "I look at them". He said, pointing to his house "This house is private property!" I said "I'm sure it is, but the light waves which reflect off of it are not". He didn't like that. |
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06/02/2004 06:55:04 PM · #13 |
| I am sorry you were harrassed, but the ending is sooo sweet! LOL |
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06/03/2004 11:59:31 AM · #14 |
roflmao....clasic
mind shareing the photo?
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06/03/2004 12:20:37 PM · #15 |
Yes, Anna, could you post the pic of the lady and her dogs? Thank goodness you and your little boy weren't hurt.
I've been given some very threatening looks when taking pictures but no one has actually harassed me. |
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06/03/2004 01:00:07 PM · #16 |
The other night I had dinner at a local restaurant. During my meal a couple of teenagers decided to dine and dash. The waiter ran out after the teens to try to get their license plate number. Unfortunately, he was unsuccessful. However, one of the teens inadvertently left a $150 cell phone behind.
Another amusing story happened when I worked as a Pizza deliveryman. We were instructed not to take checks form hotel guests. But, this lady bitched and moaned to the manager so long he finally told the driver to take her check. After the driver got back to the store, the manager started to have second thoughts about accepting the check. He examined the check and found a local phone number and address imprinted under to the person's name. He then decided to call the number to verify that the checks hadn't been stolen. The guy that answered the phone said that they were indeed his wife's checks but stated that she was supposed to be in Mexico with her friend. Anyhow, to make a long story short, wife cheats on husband and gets caught because she bitched about the rules.
Man, that karma thing will bite you in the ass!
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06/04/2004 09:31:26 PM · #17 |
Man, these are great! I love it when the tables are turned on the antagonist. Reminds me of an unfortunate panhandler that accosted me last year...
The guy walked up to me in the "lock aisle" of The Home Depot holding an expensive Schlage deadbolt and asked if I knew anything about locks. He then proceeded to tell me a long sob story about how his mother's apartment was broken into by thieves and they took everything. He was worried for his mother's safety, so he patched the broken door frame with plywood and wanted to get a really strong deadbolt for protection. This one looks good, but he's a few dollars short...
I handed him a cheap lockset off the shelf, and said it would be fine. When he protested, I replied that the deadbolt wouldn't be any stronger than the plywood he used to patch the frame. I told him, "If you look at the text on the left side of that box you're holding, it specifically states that the included 4" screws MUST be driven directly into studs." The guy stammered, "How do you know that?"
"Because I wrote it."
The look on his face was priceless. |
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06/05/2004 01:21:52 AM · #18 |
Love the "D'oh" stories. Happen to be watching the Simpsons :)
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06/05/2004 03:58:47 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
Where I live I am alowed to take any picture of anything that is in a public place. |
And that's fair enough, here you're allowed to as well. However, I have worked for 2 primary schools and trust me, I will NOT be happy if you try and take photos of the kids while we are on an excursion in a public place. While I respect the rights of people to take photos, as I want to be able to take photos of what I want, I don't believe that it is overly appropriate to be taking photos of school children, especially without asking permission. I have in fact, on several occasions gone up to groups and asked them to stop taking photographs, I will physically block their camera (that is stand in front of them) and make sure that they do not continue to take photos. While I haven't had to, if they will not stop, I will not hesitate to call 000 (out 911 equivalant) and get the police involved.
But as I said, I'm not against the rights to take photos of what you want. But there is a time and a place for everything. |
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06/05/2004 04:03:22 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by DragonStar:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
Where I live I am alowed to take any picture of anything that is in a public place. |
And that's fair enough, here you're allowed to as well. However, I have worked for 2 primary schools and trust me, I will NOT be happy if you try and take photos of the kids while we are on an excursion in a public place. While I respect the rights of people to take photos, as I want to be able to take photos of what I want, I don't believe that it is overly appropriate to be taking photos of school children, especially without asking permission. I have in fact, on several occasions gone up to groups and asked them to stop taking photographs, I will physically block their camera (that is stand in front of them) and make sure that they do not continue to take photos. While I haven't had to, if they will not stop, I will not hesitate to call 000 (out 911 equivalant) and get the police involved.
But as I said, I'm not against the rights to take photos of what you want. But there is a time and a place for everything. |
It sounds like you ARE against the rights of people to take photos of what they want.
-Terry
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06/05/2004 04:14:00 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by DragonStar:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
SNIP |
SNIP |
It sounds like you ARE against the rights of people to take photos of what they want.
-Terry |
Fine, to be precise, in rare circumstances I am. But I have a duty of care to ensure that the children that are entrusted to me remain safe at all times. And that includes being photographed for dodgy purposes. I don't agree with the propsed ban on photography on the subway (in another thread), nor do I agree with the banning of photography of any public building. But when it comes to the children I have to protect I want to know they are safe. But all someone needs to do in most situations is ask. I'm sure a lot of parents wouldn't have a problem so long as you asked, and presented yourself in a reasonable fashion. |
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06/05/2004 04:36:15 AM · #22 |
Why would you assume their purposes are dodgy?
-Terry
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06/05/2004 08:45:16 AM · #23 |
FIRST of all, I shoot a TON of candid/street photography. I have since I got my first camera.
There is NO law against taking pictures of people walking down the street. It just simply does not exist. You are LUCKY you have any rights to privacy in your own home. Such rights are NOT enumerated in our Constitution. Are they in yours??
If you walk up to a photographer who is taking pictures from a street corner or a park bench, it is YOU who is harassing the photographer. If ANYONE should be in 'trouble' for their actions, it's the people who behave like juveniles and think any picture of a kid walking down the street is child pornography going to be used by some wacko to wack off.
Anytime you leave your house, anyone can take your photo. Welcome to the world stars have lived in for so many years. Now, instead of the papparazi being the only ones with great lenses and cameras, *I* have them too. If I see you and you are doing something interesting or stupid, I will take your photo. And if you stand in front of me, I may macro your shoes or your nose.
This whole argument is so frustrating to see someone actually advocate.
"But when it comes to the children I have to protect I want to know they are safe."
SAFE FROM WHAT?!!?!??!? A lens! CLICK CLICK! Ouch.
"I don't believe that it is overly appropriate to be taking photos of school children"
Why not? This I'd like to understand. I have 4 kids in this house. 3 of whom are 10 or under. They get their photos taken by candid camera shooters all the time if we go to the beach or whatnot. They are cute! And ya know what - we don't dress our kids so that any normal person would get off looking at them! And if they do anyways, what the hell can we do to stop that? They'd get off watching them walk down the sidewalk in front of our house.
"While I haven't had to, if they will not stop, I will not hesitate to call 000 (out 911 equivalant) and get the police involved."
You said it's not illegal to take photos in a public place! What the hell would the police do other than harass the photographer as well? So basically you would call the cops to come and illegally harass some photographer who, because his lawyer wasn't standing right there, would leave? WTF!
See, I want someone to try this with me in the US. Some Korean guy yelled at me and I wasn't sure what the law was there, so I just stopped. If someone tries this crap with me in the US, I WANT them to call the police. I AM my own g'd lawyer here!!
M
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06/05/2004 09:05:01 AM · #24 |
Agree with you Mav. The current photo paranoia is out of hand. The teachers at my daughter's school get very alarmed if you try to take a picture of the class. Then they try to sell you one at the end of the year. I know lots of people (even relatives) who go absolutely nuts when I tell them I'll post their kids' pictures on the internet for viewing, yet these same folks couldn't be happier to see their kids' photo in the newspaper. Huh?
Two years ago, a pair of unfortunate college kids made front page headlines when they were nabbed trying out a new camcorder at a scenic reservoir near my house- even though they were on public property. They had the FBI out there and everything. I guess people assumed they were either Waterphiles or terrorists bent on retouching our water supply. |
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06/05/2004 09:35:33 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by DragonStar:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by DragonStar:
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:
SNIP |
SNIP |
It sounds like you ARE against the rights of people to take photos of what they want.
-Terry |
Fine, to be precise, in rare circumstances I am. But I have a duty of care to ensure that the children that are entrusted to me remain safe at all times. And that includes being photographed for dodgy purposes. I don't agree with the propsed ban on photography on the subway (in another thread), nor do I agree with the banning of photography of any public building. But when it comes to the children I have to protect I want to know they are safe. But all someone needs to do in most situations is ask. I'm sure a lot of parents wouldn't have a problem so long as you asked, and presented yourself in a reasonable fashion. |
How is taking a picture of a kid endangering them?
On another note, if you physically accost me while I'm on the street photographing something. You won't need to call the police, I'll do it first. If you get too out of hand, I'll pepper spray you first. In short, I will jack you up.
Message edited by author 2004-06-05 09:43:31.
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