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06/10/2015 02:29:04 PM · #6476 |
| The gays haven't destroyed a damned thing there. Somebody's got their sacraments mixed up with their seculars. They are gonna get DIVORCED because their marriage is sacred to them, and according to THEIR religion, there's nothing sacred about gays? |
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06/10/2015 02:33:42 PM · #6477 |
something tells me they wont go through with it.
"we were just kidding" |
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06/10/2015 04:09:45 PM · #6478 |
Gross.
Good to know that if you really don't like one thing you define as sin, you have carte blanche to commit other things you define as sins in protest. Like divorcing. Which is terribly ungodly. |
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06/10/2015 04:12:49 PM · #6479 |
This is the gross, hypocritical lengths people will go to to support their animus.
This couple is literally vowing to go against their god, to support their god. "What God hath therefore joined together let no man put asunder."
Lunacy. Disordered thinking.
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06/10/2015 10:05:39 PM · #6480 |
| Legalising same-sex marriage would "have serious consequences for children who would grow up without a mother or father," so that will prompt the couple to get divorced and leave their kids without a mother or father. Kudos to the reporter for managing to continue the interview through what must have been hysterical laughter. |
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06/11/2015 12:04:39 AM · #6481 |
"But in a novel protest..."
Please don't sum up the argument against same-sex relationships as being in this article.
That does a disservice to both sides. |
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06/11/2015 12:12:05 AM · #6482 |
As a protest against California's allowing gay marriage, and therefore destroying the value of my marriage of 27 years, I will also be divorcing my wife. I will also stop wearing clothing, going to the theater, and entering buildings, since it seems gay people often are designers, actors, and architects. Who knew? Better safe than sorry. I can only be safe in my heterosexuality while huddled in my cave, while wrapped in the skin of an animal I have killed with my teeth. Sadly I have tickets to Book of Mormon next week, but right after that, I'm gonna make my statement...really.
Message edited by author 2015-06-11 00:19:54. |
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06/11/2015 03:12:19 AM · #6483 |
Originally posted by Nullix:
"But in a novel protest..."
Please don't sum up the argument against same-sex relationships as being in this article.
That does a disservice to both sides. |
Best that you bring all of those wonderful arguments to the fore for all of us to see and understand then.
Do try to limit your list to those things that meet legal parameters, have a direct impact on heterosexual relationships, and to those things that in this regard that truly would lead to the betterment of society as a whole.
We seem to have wandered down this path before, and to date you have offered nothing but a religious perspective to what society should be, and your arguments so far have been totally devoid of any demonstrable facts.
Looking forward to seeing your list.
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06/11/2015 07:12:34 AM · #6484 |
If someone could please sum up some legitimate arguments against gay marriage. I'm generally curious about what they would be if there are any.
Difficulty: they cant be that " my religion doesn't allow it" and they must impact society as a whole just just an individuals belief. They must have legitimate legal or societal ramifications.
Message edited by author 2015-06-11 11:15:32. |
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06/11/2015 10:27:43 AM · #6485 |
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06/11/2015 10:38:58 AM · #6486 |
Let's see...... September 16, 2008 for the first post and June 11, 2015 for my last one. Just a few months shy of seven years discussing this subject. I believe that even in rant there should be a limit. On September 16, 2015 I think this thread should be nuked from orbit. :)
Seven years is long enough for those of us who are sentient, to figure out we're never going to agree. |
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06/11/2015 11:09:11 AM · #6487 |
  Tap10
I think this shot from the eleventh comandment went over some people's heads. thought you might appreciate here :P ( taken by my husband btw ) :) |
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06/11/2015 11:12:13 AM · #6488 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
As a protest against California's allowing gay marriage, and therefore destroying the value of my marriage of 27 years, I will also be divorcing my wife. I will also stop wearing clothing, going to the theater, and entering buildings, since it seems gay people often are designers, actors, and architects. Who knew? Better safe than sorry. I can only be safe in my heterosexuality while huddled in my cave, while wrapped in the skin of an animal I have killed with my teeth. Sadly I have tickets to Book of Mormon next week, but right after that, I'm gonna make my statement...really. |
I hope you remain by your wife's side, and she by yours, but I do think it would be amusing to see you running around the streets of California, unsheltered, naked with your poodle. If only for a weekend. |
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06/11/2015 11:21:00 AM · #6489 |
Originally posted by Erastus:
Let's see...... September 16, 2008 for the first post and June 11, 2015 for my last one. Just a few months shy of seven years discussing this subject. I believe that even in rant there should be a limit. On September 16, 2015 I think this thread should be nuked from orbit. :)
Seven years is long enough for those of us who are sentient, to figure out we're never going to agree. |
You missed four years of really good dialog on the subject.
This subject goes way back in the forums to February 24, 2004.
And you never know...maybe folks will come to agreement yet.
Then we can start a thread about (oh, say) the earth is flat, yes, it really is.
:) |
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06/11/2015 12:00:58 PM · #6490 |
Originally posted by erastus:
Seven years is long enough for those of us who are sentient, to figure out we're never going to agree. |
The main purpose of this thread isn't to persuade anyone or change anyone's mind: it's to chronicle the (too slow) evolution of the body politic's acceptance of the rights of all humans regardless of their sexual orientations :-) |
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06/11/2015 01:30:14 PM · #6491 |
Originally posted by Mike:
If someone could please sum up some legitimate arguments against gay marriage. I'm generally curious about what they would be if there are any.
Difficulty: they cant be that " my religion doesn't allow it" and they must impact society as a whole just just an individuals belief. They must have legitimate legal or societal ramifications. |
You folks wishing the government had MORE control over your lives is beyond me. |
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06/11/2015 01:39:25 PM · #6492 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
You folks wishing the government had MORE control over your lives is beyond me. |
please explain. |
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06/11/2015 02:49:35 PM · #6493 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Looking forward to seeing your list. |
Don't hold your breath Ray.
It would be faster to build a web page scraper to pull all the posts. Then I can just reference them #221.
Then we could rehash it all over again in short form with post numbers. |
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06/11/2015 03:31:55 PM · #6494 |
Originally posted by Nullix:
It would be faster to build a web page scraper to pull all the posts. Then I can just reference them #221.
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a 1973 psychiatric diagnosis is the precedent upon which you are attempting use to defend your stance? if you are going to use ancient ideas, just stick with the bible.
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06/11/2015 03:52:26 PM · #6495 |
| Mike don't you think you are asking for more.laws ? |
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06/11/2015 03:56:44 PM · #6496 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Mike don't you think you are asking for more.laws ? |
It is asking for existing law to be applied equally to all citizens regardless of the gender of the person they love. |
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06/11/2015 04:02:21 PM · #6497 |
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by Nullix:
It would be faster to build a web page scraper to pull all the posts. Then I can just reference them #221.
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a 1973 psychiatric diagnosis is the precedent upon which you are attempting use to defend your stance? if you are going to use ancient ideas, just stick with the bible. |
No, he's going back even further. 1973 was when the APA decided that being gay *wasn't* a disorder. |
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06/11/2015 04:08:12 PM · #6498 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Mike don't you think you are asking for more.laws ? |
Proposals that ban gay marriage, create "religious freedom" exemptions, prevent adoptions and blood donations, set separate rules for civil unions, block patient access and estate rights, set special school guidelines, and prevent disclosure in the military are more laws. Allowing two consenting adults to have the same rights that alreadty exist for any other two consenting adults, whether they're gay, interfaith or interracial, amounts to fewer laws. |
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06/11/2015 04:14:54 PM · #6499 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Mike don't you think you are asking for more.laws ? |
please explain. |
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06/11/2015 05:28:21 PM · #6500 |
Originally posted by Nullix:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Looking forward to seeing your list. |
Don't hold your breath Ray.
It would be faster to build a web page scraper to pull all the posts. Then I can just reference them #221.
Then we could rehash it all over again in short form with post numbers. |
Good grief...
Did you even take the time to Google the subject matter.\
Here is a bit of information that I managed to find in less than two minutes:
" In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder. The American Psychological Association Council of Representatives followed in 1975.[3] Thereafter other major mental health organizations followed, including the World Health Organization in 1990. Consequently, while a minority[citation needed] today believes homosexuality is a mental disorder, the body of current research and clinical literature supports a consensus that same-sex sexual and romantic attractions, feelings, and behaviors are healthy variations of human sexuality, and is reflected in the official positions of the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association"
The very argument you bring to the fore has been dealt with for more than forty years.
You are absolutely right.... I should not hold my breath waiting for you to provide some (... err any) semblance of evidence to support your claim as it is not likely going to happen in my lifetime.
Keep plugging and let me know how you make out.
Ray |
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