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12/04/2014 01:39:15 PM · #1
I have been really missing not having a wide angle lens, I love my canon 24-105 but on my 7d it just isn't quite right for lanscape shots and I would really like something wider.

I just am having a really hard time deciding, hopefully you guys can offer some insight to my choices or give me some new options I hadn't thought of:

This tameron 10-24mm seemed to really fit within what I need for focal length and at $499 I will save $100 versus the canon version. It also seems to be getting better reviews. But I'm not sure what to believe with reviews.
//www.amazon.com/Tamron-10-24mm-3-5-4-5-Aspherical-Digital/dp/B001G7PIBC/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1417716759&sr=8-10&keywords=tameron+lens+for+canon

Here is the canon version with the rebate it is $599 but is it worth the extra $100?
//www.amazon.com/Canon-EF-S-10-22mm-3-5-4-5-Digital/dp/B0002Y5WXE/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1417717543&sr=8-9&keywords=canon+wide+angle

Now to the big bucks but I'm not sure this is even what I really need since it overlaps my focal length of my 24-105. Plus it is significantly more expensive than the tameron but still a good deal at $699 with rebates:
//www.amazon.com/Canon-17-40mm-Ultra-Angle-Cameras/dp/B00009R6WO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1417717543&sr=8-5&keywords=canon+wide+angle

The other end of the spectrum with the really cheap one ($299) fits well with the focal length I need, it seems to get decent reviews and I really wonder if I need to spend so much on a lens that I am only going to use as a hobby. What do you think about this lens?
//www.amazon.com/Canon-EF-S-10-18mm-4-5-5-6-Lens/dp/B00K899B9Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417717543&sr=8-1&keywords=canon+wide+angle

Keep in mind that this lens is purely for recreational use, I don't need it for business and I doubt I will be using it much for stock photography. Basically just a toy. I would like to spend the least amount possible with still getting a decent lens.
12/04/2014 01:45:56 PM · #2
i cant comment on the new canon 10-18, but the price is outstanding.

as far as the other three, I've owned all of them at some point.

the tamron 10-24 was not a very good lens. it was very, very soft wide open with aberrations on the edges. i would consider the sigma 10-20 over this for about the same price.

the canon 17-40 wont be wide enough on a crop for you. you may as well shoot with the the 18-135 or 18-55 kit lens especially if you stop down. the only draw for you would be weather sealing.

the canon 10-22 was stellar and i mean stellar, well worth the price if you plan to use it. outstanding color sharpness and excellent flare control. ask Bear, he'll tell you its an L lens in a EF-S body and i'd be inclined to agree.

there is also the tokina uwa, but its prone to flare from what i hear.



Message edited by author 2014-12-04 13:50:10.
12/04/2014 02:12:08 PM · #3
Originally posted by sjhuls:

Keep in mind that this lens is purely for recreational use, I don't need it for business and I doubt I will be using it much for stock photography. Basically just a toy. I would like to spend the least amount possible ...

Get the free demo version of AutoStitch or use the Canon PhotoStitch software which should have come with your camera and learn to take a handheld series to stitch into a panorama. Both programs allow you to take more than one horizontal series if you need more height in your composition, and AutoStitch does an good job of straightening slightly tilted pics. With a little practice you should be able to get nearly as good a series as with a pan-head tripod.
12/04/2014 03:52:52 PM · #4
I love the drama you can capture with a super-wide lens. I have the Tamron and I like it a lot. The focus can be a little soft when shooting wide open, but I have not tried the Canon lens you mention so I can't comment on how it compares to others.

ETA: Mike mentioned the Sigma as an alternative -- it's another lens I have not tried. However, I have been very impressed with my Sigma 50mm and, if I were doing it over again, I would seriously consider the Sigma over the Tamron.

Message edited by author 2014-12-04 15:58:14.
12/04/2014 05:06:41 PM · #5
The only lens of the ones you mentioned that I've used is the Canon 10-22 and I can't speak highly enough of it, image quality is fantastic. It's also fairly light so I had no problem having it in my bag on long hikes. I looked on the Canon refurb site and they're in stock, for $519. Unfortunately I rarely use mine now since going to the full frame 6D.

I also have the Tokina Mike mentioned, the 11-16 2.8, I can also speak highly for this lens. It's built like a tank and I can use it on the long end (somewhere between 15 and 16mm) on my 6D. Shooting at 2.8 definitely comes in handy when want to shoot wide, indoors. The downside between this and the 10-22 was the focal range was so small, it almost felt like a prime. Also it doesn't sound like much but you can tell the difference between shooting at 10mm vs 11mm.
12/04/2014 05:08:52 PM · #6
Originally posted by Cuttooth:

Also it doesn't sound like much but you can tell the difference between shooting at 10mm vs 11mm.

That's a 10% difference ... :-)
12/04/2014 07:47:41 PM · #7
Thanks guys this is helping a lot :)
12/04/2014 07:58:39 PM · #8
I have the Tamron 10-24 for a few years now. I can't compare it to the Canon which I have never used, but I am very happy with the Tammy. It is my sharpest lens and my most expensive one. (Shooting with cheap glass does not seem to be hurting my performance on this site at all.)
12/04/2014 09:37:33 PM · #9
You simply can't beat the 10-22 Canon for image quality. Worth every penny IMO, and holds its resale value as well.
12/04/2014 10:07:20 PM · #10
10-22. Bear made me buy mine, and I've loved it every day since. I've nearly worn it out, actually.
12/05/2014 12:55:48 PM · #11
Here are some unedited stitched panoramic views made with AutoStitch; handheld, manual mode, manual focus ...

12/05/2014 01:01:55 PM · #12
If I were shooting APS-C, I'd go with the Canon 10-22. The Peleng 8mm fisheye is fun too, but probably NOT what you're looking for.

For full frame, there's no wider rectilinear lens than the Sigma 12-24. It's one of my favorites.
12/05/2014 01:49:01 PM · #13
On APS-C you certainly cannot go wrong with the Canon 10-22. I think there will be other Canon-branded options in the near future, based on the rumors I have seen published, but they may be very expensive alternatives.
In the event that you'd ever want to jump to FF, re-selling a 10-22 is never going to be hard, and you won't lose a ton of money.
12/05/2014 01:52:26 PM · #14
+1 for the Canon 10-22. Love it!
12/05/2014 05:30:43 PM · #15
Check out the Tokina 11-16 Æ’2.8. Had this lens when I was shooting Canon and loved it, around $450.
12/07/2014 12:03:33 PM · #16
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by sjhuls:

Keep in mind that this lens is purely for recreational use, I don't need it for business and I doubt I will be using it much for stock photography. Basically just a toy. I would like to spend the least amount possible ...

Get the free demo version of AutoStitch or use the Canon PhotoStitch software which should have come with your camera and learn to take a handheld series to stitch into a panorama. Both programs allow you to take more than one horizontal series if you need more height in your composition, and AutoStitch does an good job of straightening slightly tilted pics. With a little practice you should be able to get nearly as good a series as with a pan-head tripod.


and if she wants to use these stitched images in a challenge? oh right..
12/07/2014 12:52:37 PM · #17
Originally posted by Mike:

and if she wants to use these stitched images in a challenge? oh right..

My recommendation was based on this part of her statement -- there's no mention of DPC ...
Originally posted by sjhuls:

Keep in mind that this lens is purely for recreational use, I don't need it for business and I doubt I will be using it much for stock photography. Basically just a toy. I would like to spend the least amount possible ...

That said, revision of the Advanced rules regarding stitched commposites is one I am in favor of, and is likely to at least be considered soon ...
12/28/2014 11:00:19 AM · #18
My husband/Santa Claus was awesome this year an got me the Canon EF-S 10-22mm I have been just dying to test it out but the weather is just not cooperating :( Just really gloomy with low lying clouds that cover up all the mountains. I finally had to get out and test it anyway. So all you get is a boring shot out my back door.



Santa also got me a new manfroto tripod and ball head. So I am all set....if the weather would just cooperate. I have this whole break to take photos and nothing.....Once the kids get back in school I am usually out running them around to various activities when the landscapes are at their best :(
12/28/2014 11:01:56 AM · #19
nice. enjoy. that lens is fantastic.
12/28/2014 02:07:48 PM · #20
I guess I'm too late to put my 2 cents in, obviously you'll have a lot of fun with that lens. If anyone else reads this thread with the thought of getting a WA lens I would put in my vote for the Canon 17-40L. IMO it's one of the best lenses for the money, I believe it's the cheapest red ring and the quality is just great. Although I think I've used it more as a portrait lens than I have landscape

Message edited by author 2014-12-28 14:08:11.
12/28/2014 02:11:23 PM · #21
very good choice, jen. i think you'll love that lens.
12/28/2014 02:36:12 PM · #22
That's great, Jen! About time! And don't let those clouds bug you, that's a GREAT shooting sky with a little Nik Viveza in post.

12/28/2014 09:15:48 PM · #23
Thanks all! It is about time. I just hope I have time to use it. Kids really have made it so I just don't have time to spend on landscapes like I used to when they were smaller and didn't have so many activities.

Originally posted by smardaz:

I guess I'm too late to put my 2 cents in, obviously you'll have a lot of fun with that lens. If anyone else reads this thread with the thought of getting a WA lens I would put in my vote for the Canon 17-40L. IMO it's one of the best lenses for the money, I believe it's the cheapest red ring and the quality is just great. Although I think I've used it more as a portrait lens than I have landscape


I looked at that one too and was temped, but it overlapped my canon 24-105 and wasn't wide enough for what I wanted.

Message edited by author 2014-12-28 21:16:15.
12/28/2014 09:23:17 PM · #24
And a very nice backyard and view at that, I wouldn't call it boring.

Been meaning to start a thread like this as well, but you beat me to it, thanks!

Message edited by author 2014-12-28 21:24:29.
12/28/2014 09:46:15 PM · #25
Sounds like a great lens! Look forward to seeing your images.

To add to the UWA opinion pot... I absolutely love my Tokina 16-28 f/2.8 FX Pro, and I would recommend it to anyone. It's in the same league as my 70-200mm f/2.8 professional Nikkor lens in terms of build and image quality / sharpness.

Message edited by author 2014-12-28 21:47:23.
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