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 05/18/2004 04:39:04 PM · #1
I´d like to add some glow effect to my shot:
-duplicate layer
-Gaussian blur to the top layer
-blend the two layers with some transparency in the blurred one.
is this ok?
 05/18/2004 04:42:12 PM · #2
yes, Gaussian blur is OK, and your steps also. But don't add Difuse Glow, that's not ok. Please read the RULES for more clarification.
 05/18/2004 04:53:30 PM · #3
Gaussian blur is okay but you're not allowed to use layers so your steps would be illegal.
 05/18/2004 04:53:32 PM · #4
Difuse glow is a PS filter?. I only add blurr to the duplicate layer and them blend together to add a glow effect.
 05/18/2004 04:54:56 PM · #5
What is an adjustment layer?
 05/18/2004 05:17:46 PM · #6
An adjustment layer, at least in photoshop, is a layer where you make adjustments more commonly levels, curves, contrast/brightness, and hue/sat.

Blending layers under basic rules is illegal.

Message edited by author 2004-05-18 17:18:29.
 05/18/2004 05:21:43 PM · #7
The adjustment layer gives you the option of going back and simply make an adjustment to alter the levels,curves,contrast/brightness, and hue/sat without going all the way back into the history of your processing to re-edit.
 05/18/2004 08:19:17 PM · #8
Originally posted by faidoi:
The adjustment layer gives you the option of going back and simply make an adjustment to alter the levels,curves,contrast/brightness, and hue/sat without going all the way back into the history of your processing to re-edit.


so for easy editing can you use an adjustment layer to work out what looks the best (noteing what you did)
then use those adjustments on the original without layers and submit that and still stay within the rules
 05/18/2004 08:54:10 PM · #9
Originally posted by 1st-2-click:
Originally posted by faidoi:
The adjustment layer gives you the option of going back and simply make an adjustment to alter the levels,curves,contrast/brightness, and hue/sat without going all the way back into the history of your processing to re-edit.


so for easy editing can you use an adjustment layer to work out what looks the best (noteing what you did)
then use those adjustments on the original without layers and submit that and still stay within the rules

Adjustment layers ARE within the rules for all challenges.
Layers containing masking information are legal for Advanced Rules Challenges.
Layers containing pixel information (cloned, duplicated, etc.) are not legal for any challenges.

Message edited by author 2004-05-18 20:54:38.
 05/18/2004 10:09:42 PM · #10
You can also apply a gaussian blur without making a new layer, then in the Edit menu, use the Fade... tool to adjust the strenth and blending mode of your action (Photoshop). This creates no layers, but the effect is the same in the final image. Layers work better because you can make more adjustments in your fine tuning, but you can't use layers in Basic Editing.

So to add a glow to your image, I would:

1. Use the gaussian blur filter at considerable strength (say, 70 pixels or so).
2. In the Edit menu, select 'Fade Gaussian Blur'
3. Change the blending mode to Screen, which will lighten your image considerably. (you can fiddle around with the other blending mode options to see what will happen. I use Multiply a lot).
4. Slide the Opacity slider to a percent that looks good to you. It will probably be somewhere between 30 to 50%.
5. Get ready to dodge all of the accusations of 'too much photoshop' that will come your way, and have your original file ready when you get a DQ request!

Here is an image that uses similar techniques, except my blending mode was set to Normal:


05/18/2004 11:09:45 PM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:
...Layers containing pixel information (cloned, duplicated, etc.) are not legal for any challenges.


Ummm, correct me if I am in error, but I think this is incorrect. In advanced editing, ANY layer operations are legal that do not include the copying/cloning of "major elements", or the removal of major elements, and are all sourced from the same base image. for instance, i could duplicate my image layer, apply an effect, and fade the effect in selectively. Perfectly legal.

Message edited by author 2004-05-18 23:10:36.
 05/19/2004 12:16:35 AM · #12
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
...Layers containing pixel information (cloned, duplicated, etc.) are not legal for any challenges.


Ummm, correct me if I am in error, but I think this is incorrect. In advanced editing, ANY layer operations are legal that do not include the copying/cloning of "major elements", or the removal of major elements, and are all sourced from the same base image. for instance, i could duplicate my image layer, apply an effect, and fade the effect in selectively. Perfectly legal.

I'm trying to get clarification on that, because I think the rules still prohibit anything but adjustment layers ... but I'm hoping I'm wrong as it makes no sense to me (to prohibit layers) as long as you start with a single image and don't break any of the other rules.

Maybe that would apply only to Advanced Rules challenges.

Message edited by author 2004-05-19 00:17:45.
 05/19/2004 04:26:47 AM · #13
Originally posted by dsidwell:
You can also apply a gaussian blur without making a new layer, then in the Edit menu, use the Fade... tool to adjust the strenth and blending mode of your action (Photoshop). This creates no layers, but the effect is the same in the final image. Layers work better because you can make more adjustments in your fine tuning, but you can't use layers in Basic Editing.

So to add a glow to your image, I would:

1. Use the gaussian blur filter at considerable strength (say, 70 pixels or so).
2. In the Edit menu, select 'Fade Gaussian Blur'
3. Change the blending mode to Screen, which will lighten your image considerably. (you can fiddle around with the other blending mode options to see what will happen. I use Multiply a lot).
4. Slide the Opacity slider to a percent that looks good to you. It will probably be somewhere between 30 to 50%.
5. Get ready to dodge all of the accusations of 'too much photoshop' that will come your way, and have your original file ready when you get a DQ request!

Here is an image that uses similar techniques, except my blending mode was set to Normal:



In basic editing the blending mode must be set to Normal, as stated in the rules:

"...must be applied in normal mode. All other types of layers and all other blending methods (modes) are prohibited."
 05/19/2004 06:33:31 AM · #14
I seem to remember a shot being accepted after DQ requests some time ago, before 'advanced' editing rules, that split the image into the three channels, blurred one of them, and re-combined them. It can be an effective technique, though whether it would pass more recent times' interpretation of the rules I don't know.
 05/19/2004 07:27:05 AM · #15
I`m gradually getting the hang of what you guys have been doing for ages,(currently practising with dodge and burn.)
Still to work out this layer thingy..never used them and tend to get lost when reading threads on the subject.
The problem is I don`t have a permanent (good) post processing package.I have been working with trial versions of PSP8 and find it very good and fairly easy to pick up,however,I`ve got about 7 days left on the current trial..guess I`ll have to bite the bullet and buy it and get some serious training done. :)

Gordon
 05/19/2004 07:43:16 AM · #16
Gordon, Amazon were selling it for around £40 recently - biggest bargain on the block, if you ask me. All my own shots are worked in PSP8, and I've run into very few areas of restriction so far, other than its occasional slowness.

Ed

PS. And God help us all when you think you get to 'competence' with all of it :-)

Message edited by author 2004-05-19 07:43:57.
 05/19/2004 08:26:54 AM · #17
Originally posted by e301:
Gordon, Amazon were selling it for around £40 recently - biggest bargain on the block, if you ask me. All my own shots are worked in PSP8, and I've run into very few areas of restriction so far, other than its occasional slowness.

Ed

PS. And God help us all when you think you get to 'competence' with all of it :-)


Thanks for the Amazon info Ed, I`ll look into that once I find the key to the padlock on my sporran :)
Eh...and thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don`t think YOU`VE got anything to worry about from me.

Gordon
 05/19/2004 09:06:25 AM · #18
Originally posted by geewhy:
I`m gradually getting the hang of what you guys have been doing for ages,(currently practising with dodge and burn.)
Still to work out this layer thingy..never used them and tend to get lost when reading threads on the subject.
The problem is I don`t have a permanent (good) post processing package.I have been working with trial versions of PSP8 and find it very good and fairly easy to pick up,however,I`ve got about 7 days left on the current trial..guess I`ll have to bite the bullet and buy it and get some serious training done. :)

Gordon


Before you buy PSP, try PS Elements first. IMHO, it has fewer bells and whistles, but does exactly what's needed, and does it well. I was a former PSP and PhotoImpact user. I gave up PSP when it changed to bloatware, and PI just didn't do things cleanly.

PSe to PS7 (not yet updated to PS CS) like the Rebel is to the 10D. According to Maximum PC's estimate, it has 90% of PS (7's) features, at 1/10 the price.

I never really got the hang of layers, and how important they were, until I used PSe. It's much more intuitive in that program.
 05/19/2004 09:27:02 AM · #19
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Edit menu, use the Fade... tool to adjust the strenth and blending mode of your action


I had no idea this option existed ... you just made my day. Of course, you just killed my work day, but my photoshop day has just come alive like a 5 year old on christmas morning!
 05/19/2004 09:34:35 AM · #20
Originally posted by hopper:
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Edit menu, use the Fade... tool to adjust the strenth and blending mode of your action


I had no idea this option existed ... you just made my day. Of course, you just killed my work day, but my photoshop day has just come alive like a 5 year old on christmas morning!


Remember that it only exists immediately after you've used a tool or filter. If you perform other tasks you'll have to go back with the history brush or backup to that step you want to fade.
 05/19/2004 09:37:49 AM · #21
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by hopper:
Originally posted by dsidwell:
Edit menu, use the Fade... tool to adjust the strenth and blending mode of your action


I had no idea this option existed ... you just made my day. Of course, you just killed my work day, but my photoshop day has just come alive like a 5 year old on christmas morning!


Remember that it only exists immediately after you've used a tool or filter. If you perform other tasks you'll have to go back with the history brush or backup to that step you want to fade.


messin' with it now ... thanks Tech ... I can't believe I didn't know this existed ... I thought I was pretty photoshop savvy ... guess not :)
 05/19/2004 03:19:42 PM · #22
Originally posted by nshapiro:
Originally posted by geewhy:
I`m gradually getting the hang of what you guys have been doing for ages,(currently practising with dodge and burn.)
Still to work out this layer thingy..never used them and tend to get lost when reading threads on the subject.
The problem is I don`t have a permanent (good) post processing package.I have been working with trial versions of PSP8 and find it very good and fairly easy to pick up,however,I`ve got about 7 days left on the current trial..guess I`ll have to bite the bullet and buy it and get some serious training done. :)

Gordon


Before you buy PSP, try PS Elements first. IMHO, it has fewer bells and whistles, but does exactly what's needed, and does it well. I was a former PSP and PhotoImpact user. I gave up PSP when it changed to bloatware, and PI just didn't do things cleanly.

PSe to PS7 (not yet updated to PS CS) like the Rebel is to the 10D. According to Maximum PC's estimate, it has 90% of PS (7's) features, at 1/10 the price.

I never really got the hang of layers, and how important they were, until I used PSe. It's much more intuitive in that program.


Neil, thanks for the advice, I`ve sampled the Elements trial version and the Photoshop CS trial version..but didn`t feel at ease with the layout as much as I do with PSP8.
It may be worth my while having another look at them though before I finally make my mind up.
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