Habits and DPC rules - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/17/2004 02:03:27 PM · #1

I have just read the terms of use for DPC and there is one term that says we can't depict alcohol, drugs, or cigarettes. In the rules for the Habits challenge, it says we can't depict illegal substances. Aren't cigarettes and alcohol legal? Are these subjects ok for this particular challenge?

letenele

Canon EOS-5D

05/17/2004 02:04:54 PM · #2

it states twice (rules and challenge) that it's not ok.

05/17/2004 02:13:35 PM · #3

Would that include things that "go with" those things? Cigarette cases, etc. Also. . . I have seen many pictures featuring liquor bottles, mixed drinks, crushed butts in ashtrays, etc., here on the site. ???

05/17/2004 02:14:41 PM · #4

Originally posted by letenele:

it states twice (rules and challenge) that it's not ok.

I'm specifically referring to cigarettes and alcohol (not illegal substances). It does not state this anywhere except in 4.2 of the terms and use. If this is the case, then the rusty nail photo by drgsoell (sorry Dave, not trying to single you out, just prove my point) should have been DQ'd but it wasn't. He even states in his description that it was made with real alcohol. I have seen other pictures in the galleries of alcohol as well. My point is that the rules for the challenge state 'illegal substances.'

05/17/2004 02:14:58 PM · #5

Originally posted by Kylie:

exactly

Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX

05/17/2004 02:16:22 PM · #6

So I am totally confused as usual . . . . . LOL

e301

05/17/2004 02:21:49 PM · #7

And there are also plenty of photos depicting smoking and/or cigarettes. This one of the 'rules', like the (in)famous 'artwork' rule, that badly need re-writing, as in their actual application they are meaningless at the moment.

On re-reading that sounds harsh on the admins and council here, which is not what I intend. Just an obsevation of fact. There is an image of Kiwi's that still stands, but which blatantly disregards this rule.

In short: I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. But then, I've thought that before :-)

ed

daisy77

Nikon D70

05/17/2004 02:27:02 PM · #8

wow. i'm not sure i'm glad i read this. i guess i will leave my shot in but am really really curious about this rule which i had not read before. i recall the nudity bit because it's reiterated in the basic editing rules.

and i guess i have to ask: WHY???

here's the rule lifted off the terms of use page: "You will not use the DPChallenge.com Service to post content or to design, manufacture, market or sell a Product that...(viii) encourages or depicts the use of drugs, alcohol or cigarettes"

05/17/2004 02:28:24 PM · #9

Key word: Encourages? I think I'll go re-read those rules right now!

Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX

05/17/2004 02:28:56 PM · #10

I think I should have kept my mouth shut. *inserts foot in mouth*

daisy77

Nikon D70

05/17/2004 02:30:02 PM · #11

Originally posted by matiscro:

I think I should have kept my mouth shut. *inserts foot in mouth*

oh gosh no...i'm glad you brought it up.

05/17/2004 02:34:56 PM · #12

I think we all agree that it boils down to "encouraging". But that bumps right into what is encouraging! My husband despises smoking and drinking for the most part, but he semi-collects some really cool looking smoking and drinking accessories from the 30's and 40's. They are very cool designs, but could that be interpreted as encouraging it? Glamorizing it? But then, a lot of the cocktail shots here look very inviiting!

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/17/2004 02:36:42 PM · #13

I say we let this thread die, look the other way, and whistle.......

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

05/17/2004 04:19:20 PM · #14

Originally posted by matiscro:

I think I should have kept my mouth shut. *inserts foot in mouth*

It's easier (and more often necessary) when you're younger ...

drgsoell

Olympus C-750UZ

05/17/2004 04:27:51 PM · #15

Originally posted by matiscro:

Originally posted by letenele:
it states twice (rules and challenge) that it's not ok.

I'm specifically referring to cigarettes and alcohol (not illegal substances). It does not state this anywhere except in 4.2 of the terms and use. If this is the case, then the rusty nail photo by drgsoell (sorry Dave, not trying to single you out, just prove my point) should have been DQ'd but it wasn't. He even states in his description that it was made with real alcohol. I have seen other pictures in the galleries of alcohol as well. My point is that the rules for the challenge state 'illegal substances.'

Chris

I'm not insulted nor upset with your comment. Since I am not much of a drinker myself I never even thought about that rule until I read this post. The only anger I feel is with myself for missing it. In fact, that might be one reason (of many) it finished lower than I expected. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

drg

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

05/17/2004 05:45:20 PM · #16

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by matiscro:
I think I should have kept my mouth shut. *inserts foot in mouth*

It's easier (and more often necessary) when you're younger ...

Now THAT would have been a great image for Habits... :o)
(not being that flexible, but just putting one's foot in one's mouth)

the-O-ster

Nikon D70

05/17/2004 05:53:06 PM · #17

it sounds like i'm looking at voting on about 200 photos of people smoking and drinking....could someone try something a little different? please?

how about this...any shot i see of a cig or some alchy bev automatically gets a 1 from me for being trite. :)

don't say you weren't warned!

-O.