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05/16/2014 10:57:00 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by Enlightened:
Flip and bend is fun but that doesn't take away the fact that there are 3 expert editing challenges in a row. |
Flip 'n' Blend is not really an Expert challenge -- it could as easily have been listed as Advanced with a "Special Rule" that distorting the image is allowed. The main feature of Expert editing (combining multiple images) is specifically excluded from this challenge. |
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05/16/2014 11:10:25 AM · #27 |
| Just to be clear, the source image has to be taken between the contest dates, correct? It cannot be an old image, right? |
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05/16/2014 11:13:05 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:
Just to be clear, the source image has to be taken between the contest dates, correct? It cannot be an old image, right? |
I was wondering the same thing, but as you still need to check the box that states that the original photo was taken during the challenge dates, I assume the answer is, "yes". If anyone knows anything differently, please do tell... |
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05/16/2014 11:17:53 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:
Just to be clear, the source image has to be taken between the contest dates, correct? It cannot be an old image, right? |
That's correct.
FWIW I've found that images with a few bold shapes work best unless you want a very complex pattern with tiny specks of color. |
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05/16/2014 12:06:13 PM · #30 |
| And...it's another SYMMETRY challenge, too! |
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05/16/2014 01:03:56 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Neat:
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by Neat:
Hey guys, I'm in the USA ATM and only have my IPAD on me, I would love to enter the abstract challenge, but can't seem to find an editing programme that flips images that can be used on my IPAD, I currently have, photo gene, adobe PS, and aviary, none of them seem to have that filter!
Can anyone help?
Please ;) |
Sure, come on over! |
Sure what's your address ;) |
30 Germania St, Boston, MA
Fridge is full! |
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05/16/2014 01:12:35 PM · #32 |
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05/16/2014 01:29:04 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by LN13:
And...it's another SYMMETRY challenge, too! |
With warping allowed it is possible to make an asymmetric image ... some of the blend modes (e.g. overlay) will yield an asymmetric result. You could also perform the horizontal and vertical flips, and then crop from one side to a square before performing a rotation.
A lot of the fun of this technique is the surprising/unexpected results you can get.
Don't forget you can shift the colors around too, either before, after, or between blending layers; I use Curves myself ...
Personally, I wish there was an extra rule requiring everyone (not just the winners) to link their image to a resized-only version of the original, and to list their editing steps. |
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05/16/2014 03:16:06 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by LN13:
And...it's another SYMMETRY challenge, too! |
With warping allowed it is possible to make an asymmetric image ... some of the blend modes (e.g. overlay) will yield an asymmetric result. You could also perform the horizontal and vertical flips, and then crop from one side to a square before performing a rotation.
A lot of the fun of this technique is the surprising/unexpected results you can get.
Don't forget you can shift the colors around too, either before, after, or between blending layers; I use Curves myself ...
Personally, I wish there was an extra rule requiring everyone (not just the winners) to link their image to a resized-only version of the original, and to list their editing steps. |
I thought about that because it is interesting to see the original. I'm going to put my original in my
comments, but I can't always remember exacty what I did to get there. |
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05/16/2014 03:18:33 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Wow, am I happy to see this challenge. A few of us have been playing around with this technique for years now
and it's amazing fun.
For newbies - just follow the instructions, step by step, and the basics come easy. This is also one case where "the
basics" can turn up a stunning image (or not).
But you can't do just one. |
I am very happy to see this challenge too. And surprised. I did not expect it to happen in my lifetime. "D
I will be flippin' & blendin' all weekend. |
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05/16/2014 04:49:12 PM · #36 |
It is at times such as these, times of pain and fear, that our thoughts turn to our creator. Some think it blasphemy to name him. Others call him  langdon. Still others question his existence in the first place. But someone or something creates new challenges, scrubs votes, etc. It might be a Force, or a gas, perhaps a particle... though some still insist that this site could only have been the result of intelligent design.
3 expert editing challenges in a row... surely there must be some PATTERN, some PURPOSE... langdon works in mysterious ways... now the prophets will come forth with their competing interpretations. The gospel writers will tell us of langdon's home life, claiming to have words directly from langdon's mouth. There will be rumors and paraphrases of additional writings, perhaps one of these will be dug up on a board somehwere, and it will contradict the canonical stories.
3 expert editing challenges in a row... could it be merely a coincidence? perhaps we are being punished! Some of us will gather followers, go into a mountaintop forum thread and wait to be taken up into langdon's loving hands. Some of us will predict the end of DPC... will it end in fiery error messages or just fade into white silence?
For some, the worst possible explanation is that our creator just doesn't give enough of a crap to check the editing ruleset. They go back to the Talmud once more and scribble their rationalizations in the margins.....
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05/16/2014 05:14:37 PM · #37 |
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05/16/2014 05:15:52 PM · #38 |
| He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy! |
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05/16/2014 11:06:27 PM · #39 |
| I'm not too happy to be seeing this site head towards digital art instead of photography. I did just renew, but seeing the majority of challenges right now as Expert editing, makes me wonder why I bothered. |
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05/17/2014 12:00:53 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by tryingtostayinfocus:
What gives? Anyone know? I've decided to steer clear of the expert editing challenges, but that doesn't leave me with anything apart from the free study... |
I understand the question but I don't understand the problem. |
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05/17/2014 12:45:41 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:
Originally posted by tryingtostayinfocus:
What gives? Anyone know? I've decided to steer clear of the expert editing challenges, but that doesn't leave me with anything apart from the free study... |
I understand the question but I don't understand the problem. |
When you say that you don't understand the problem, are you referring to entering an expert editing challenge or that it only leaves me with the Free Study??
(I have since looked closer at the Flip'nBlend and it is something that I feel comfortable doing, but I realize that it might not be everyone's cup of tea). |
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05/17/2014 12:54:45 AM · #42 |
| You can enter an expert editing challenge with a non-expert edited photo. Just go for it if you find something you like! |
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05/17/2014 01:19:23 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
It is at times such as these, times of pain and fear, that our thoughts turn to our creator. Some think it blasphemy to name him. Others call him langdon. Still others question his existence in the first place. But someone or something creates new challenges, scrubs votes, etc. It might be a Force, or a gas, perhaps a particle... though some still insist that this site could only have been the result of intelligent design.
3 expert editing challenges in a row... surely there must be some PATTERN, some PURPOSE... langdon works in mysterious ways... now the prophets will come forth with their competing interpretations. The gospel writers will tell us of langdon's home life, claiming to have words directly from langdon's mouth. There will be rumors and paraphrases of additional writings, perhaps one of these will be dug up on a board somehwere, and it will contradict the canonical stories.
3 expert editing challenges in a row... could it be merely a coincidence? perhaps we are being punished! Some of us will gather followers, go into a mountaintop forum thread and wait to be taken up into langdon's loving hands. Some of us will predict the end of DPC... will it end in fiery error messages or just fade into white silence?
For some, the worst possible explanation is that our creator just doesn't give enough of a crap to check the editing ruleset. They go back to the Talmud once more and scribble their rationalizations in the margins..... |
We have hope...
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05/17/2014 11:33:32 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
I'm not too happy to be seeing this site head towards digital art instead of photography. I did just renew, but seeing the majority of challenges right now as Expert editing, makes me wonder why I bothered. |
+1
If you're not happy with the direction of the site, let Langdon know. I certainly did. Doubt that it will make any difference though - unless enough of us stop paying the $25 membership fee, but even then I doubt Langdon will flinch. |
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05/17/2014 11:44:43 AM · #45 |
My hubby just paid mine too, I am not into the Digital art thing either, do not think I ever will be...
However, for the expert challenges, what I am hoping to get out of it and learn by the expert challenges is to really, really help me advance in my editing techniques. I really want to learn on how to blend images together well, do cloning/masking covering up spots like telephone wires to make it more natural, learning really how to use the tools in my photo programs. I have not had a chance or reason to use them, But I have learned how to use the lasso and the magic wand ( those are my favorite in Photoshop) :-)).
I already decided that I will not use graphics or the digital art of any kind but try to keep things to the most realistic way that I can and if that means only using real natural pictures to combine I will by and through layers.
I also hope to learn and gain experiences in how to create certain lightness/darkness in situations to create the mood of a scene, and especially create and learn composition better than what I have been.
For me, expert just means that I get to learn and help gain experience on how to use "extra tools" in my program not so much as making something or turning something into digital art photography.
That is how I am looking at this, but then again maybe I am completely wrong too LOL
I wanted to join to learn photography .. so, I will just keep it as that.
I think this "expert" it is what it is. Make it to what you want :-)) That is what I love to do :-) Take the different beaten path
Message edited by author 2014-05-17 11:48:18. |
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05/17/2014 12:19:20 PM · #46 |
As has already been mentioned EXPERT is not the right name for it but it is what it is.
You can still use the tools you wish or do no editing at all, it is up to yourself.
For those who wish too, it gives more scope and the chance to use more than one image.
But the fact is you don't have to be an EXPERT at anything to enter these challenges. |
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05/17/2014 12:46:41 PM · #47 |
half the fun is just entering!
I thought I was going to lay an egg with this entry in an Expert Challenge titled "Origins".
The only processing was to brighten up the straw a bit.
It came in 5th
There is hope for us all.
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05/17/2014 01:01:26 PM · #48 |
For most of the challenges the 'expert' part of the editing is optional. Only Flip and Blend is a pure digital art challenge and we very rarely have anything like that.
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05/17/2014 01:13:05 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by Tiny:
... But the fact is you don't have to be an EXPERT at anything to enter these challenges. |
However, if you care to place well and compete (which many people that participate here HOPE to do) it's not an even playing field in an Expert challenge. Face it. Yes, you can enter what you want, sure (and yes, there are the exceptional entries now and then that do well without Expert editing). But just look at the Highest Rated challenge entries here on DPC now. People LOVE this fantasy stuff and if those are in the challenge pool with your normal, but well taken, photos ... you don't realistically stand a chance of placing well.
That's why I could stomach an Expert challenge now and then, but at the current frequency this place isn't DPChallenge anymore - it's going down a slippery slope (IMO). Perhaps it will pull in more people that enjoy this Expert stuff ... maybe that's Langdon's new long-term strategy, but again IMO it will start pushing away those that like to take regular photos and see how they stack up against others' doing the same. |
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05/17/2014 04:31:26 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by jgirl57:
My hubby just paid mine too, I am not into the Digital art thing either, do not think I ever will be...
However, for the expert challenges, what I am hoping to get out of it and learn by the expert challenges is to really, really help me advance in my editing techniques. I really want to learn on how to blend images together well, do cloning/masking covering up spots like telephone wires to make it more natural, learning really how to use the tools in my photo programs. I have not had a chance or reason to use them, But I have learned how to use the lasso and the magic wand ( those are my favorite in Photoshop) :-)).
I already decided that I will not use graphics or the digital art of any kind but try to keep things to the most realistic way that I can and if that means only using real natural pictures to combine I will by and through layers.
I also hope to learn and gain experiences in how to create certain lightness/darkness in situations to create the mood of a scene, and especially create and learn composition better than what I have been.
For me, expert just means that I get to learn and help gain experience on how to use "extra tools" in my program not so much as making something or turning something into digital art photography.
That is how I am looking at this, but then again maybe I am completely wrong too LOL
I wanted to join to learn photography .. so, I will just keep it as that.
I think this "expert" it is what it is. Make it to what you want :-)) That is what I love to do :-) Take the different beaten path |
In theory that sounds wonderful, but unless those who are really good at this stuff share how they did it in their photo descriptions, how will the rest of us learn?
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