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05/14/2004 11:07:48 AM · #1
Most of the pictures I'm seeing in the "Something New II" challenge, don't represent the subject. Being a fairly open-minded person, I have spent time trying to find the representation, but there are few that actually represent "something new." For this challenge, I'm at a loss about how to vote. Btw...I didn't enter this one.

05/14/2004 11:11:38 AM · #2
The challenge instructions state: Shoot something you have never entered before -- taken in a place you have never taken pictures before.

It doesn't say it has to be a shot of some item or subject that is new (new life, some new purchase, etc.), it just has to be something not entered into a challenge before and it has to be taken in a place you have not taken photos before. A lot of people did just that...which meets the challenge.
05/14/2004 11:15:02 AM · #3
Originally posted by laurielblack:

The challenge instructions state: Shoot something you have never entered before -- taken in a place you have never taken pictures before.

It doesn't say it has to be a shot of some item or subject that is new (new life, some new purchase, etc.), it just has to be something not entered into a challenge before and it has to be taken in a place you have not taken photos before. A lot of people did just that...which meets the challenge.


so then I guess you could take a new picture of an old person, or an old picture of a new person. :)
05/14/2004 11:19:58 AM · #4
Originally posted by Gracious:

Most of the pictures I'm seeing in the "Something New II" challenge, don't represent the subject. Being a fairly open-minded person, I have spent time trying to find the representation, but there are few that actually represent "something new." For this challenge, I'm at a loss about how to vote. Btw...I didn't enter this one.


Perhaps you are confusing "Something New" and "Something New II"?

The challenge instructions are quite different, as Laurie pointed out.
05/14/2004 11:36:57 AM · #5
Which means I did a bad job scoring and commenting because I didn't read the instructions well enough. Revision time. Thanks for the question and the follow ups.
05/14/2004 11:40:59 AM · #6
There is not enough alteration of the scores from anyone to help my score:)

Oh well, I like my image though and that is all that matters:)

Message edited by author 2004-05-14 11:44:44.
05/14/2004 11:42:26 AM · #7
Originally posted by laurielblack:

The challenge instructions state: Shoot something you have never entered before -- taken in a place you have never taken pictures before.



You know, I think i am the most stupid person here. I read the phrase "somthing you have never entered before" to mean the interior space of something i had never before been in. for example, a car, bus, building, big fridge, sheep, train, shop, etc that has up to your arrival and entering with camera been without knowledge of your existance.

I would have moaned earlier, but i don't think anyone else in the challenge was of the opinion that the first line should have read "shoot something you have never entered into a competition before"... And the whole "taken in a place you have never taken pictures before" - are the people in the challenge suggesting that they have never taken the picture of their cat / still life / whatever in that place before, or have i also misunderstood the gist of this statement as well?
05/14/2004 11:57:16 AM · #8
Ummm, sheep? I am glad you have not been there, my friend!
05/14/2004 12:00:38 PM · #9
Originally posted by redmoon:

... And the whole "taken in a place you have never taken pictures before" - are the people in the challenge suggesting that they have never taken the picture of their cat / still life / whatever in that place before, or have i also misunderstood the gist of this statement as well?


Maybe it is someone else's cat. Or a cat in a garden they've never been in before? Who knows. I personally chose a subject I had never taken photos of before (not a particular cat or human or something like that). I have taken pictures very close to this location of things very similar, but not of this exact location or this type of thing. So, I hope I entered the challenge as it was intended. No matter, people will vote how they want to vote. Voters who do not enter do not always read the challenge rules.
05/14/2004 12:01:21 PM · #10
I agree. I guess the picture of children and pets are the very first picture that person ever took of their child or the dog. Those poor kids. No photo albums of them covered in birthday cake.
05/14/2004 12:11:40 PM · #11
oh, i'm not disputing if human, cat, whatever hasn't been viewed through a camera before, it's just the place thing i wasn't sure about. obviously, for the purposes of voting, i'm taking it as read that the place the picture is taken is new for the picture taker. i just think that maybe, in future, challenge definitions could be a little bit less, err, woolly.

Message edited by author 2004-05-14 12:12:18.
05/14/2004 12:16:54 PM · #12
I took the description of the challenge to mean you can shoot something you've shot before, but not that you've entered into a challenge, somewhere that you've never taken a picture at all. What I entered I'd never used in a photo, but I didn't mark down people whom I think probably have taken pictures of their subject before. I just assume for now that they've never entered those photos into a challenge, and that they were taken somewhere new.
05/14/2004 12:18:23 PM · #13
Originally posted by indianzfan:

I agree. I guess the picture of children and pets are the very first picture that person ever took of their child or the dog. Those poor kids. No photo albums of them covered in birthday cake.


Maybe it's a child they just adopted or an old high school friend's child they have never seen before... who knows :) Truth is, maybe they have taken thousands of photos of that child before, but never once entered one in a challenge. And, as long as they were standing somewhere they had never taken pictures before (a new house or city), then they meet the challenge rules, right?! :) That's my take...
05/14/2004 12:19:51 PM · #14
Originally posted by redmoon:

... i just think that maybe, in future, challenge definitions could be a little bit less, err, woolly.


...and the voter a little bit less, err, pedestrian. ;-)
05/14/2004 12:21:01 PM · #15
I voted as if all of the pictures met the challenge, because who am I to know if they had ever entered that subject in a challenge before, or had ever taken pictures in that spot before, for that matter. So everyone met the challenge as far as I was concerned. I am pretty naive I guess, but I like to think that all fellow DPCers are good, fair, and honest folks who love to take pictures just like I do! :o)
05/14/2004 12:25:57 PM · #16
See this thread:
Something New ...
05/15/2004 11:34:11 PM · #17
It's certainly clearer to me now. I must not have read the instructions. Thanks to all who answered. Now I KNOW I'm losing my mind...lol
05/15/2004 11:37:53 PM · #18
Originally posted by Gracious:

It's certainly clearer to me now. I must not have read the instructions. Thanks to all who answered. Now I KNOW I'm losing my mind...lol


I have a tendancy to lose my mind as well.

I amvery interested to see what kind of shot is going to win. I am willing to bet that the shot is that wins is something new to that photographer, and something that is...well... something new...as well. Most shots like that have better shot at winning, not all the time, but a good lot of them do, at least the odds are increased.

Wow, proof that I have lost my mind, I am totally rambling on now.
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