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05/11/2004 11:59:44 AM · #1
There were about 2% of the pictures in this past challenge I did not want to rate. However, I found no option not to rate them and they kept appearing at the top of the list of unrated pictures. I would like an option to let me say I have looked at this picture and I do not choose to rate it.

Basically, the reason for not rating is that I personally found them distasteful and as that being a totally personal bias against certain expressions, I did not think my rating would be at all useful. They all ended up receiving ones from me, although some probably did not deserve such harsh treatment.
05/11/2004 12:26:55 PM · #2
Unrated images show at the top of the list only as an aid to voting, nothing more.

You don't HAVE to vote on them if you don't want to, you just have to scroll past them to see the ones you did vote on. I would exercise that option if I were you. It is unfair to the photographer to rate an image a 1 when you really don't intend to.

Like you I struggle over images I find personally distasteful when voting (Like the blood images people seem to like to submit) but I ignore my bias and vote it properly anyway.
05/11/2004 12:28:31 PM · #3
Originally posted by whagerbaumer:

There were about 2% of the pictures in this past challenge I did not want to rate. However, I found no option not to rate them and they kept appearing at the top of the list of unrated pictures. I would like an option to let me say I have looked at this picture and I do not choose to rate it.

Basically, the reason for not rating is that I personally found them distasteful and as that being a totally personal bias against certain expressions, I did not think my rating would be at all useful. They all ended up receiving ones from me, although some probably did not deserve such harsh treatment.


Your opinion counts as much as anyone elses. If you felt that the photos were that bad in your eyes, then why NOT give them ones? Besides, if you give them no score at all, it is in fact helping the photo, and giving the photographer a false idea of what people really think of that photo. You can skip a photo by using the little arrow at either end of the voting scale, but I say just vote on them.
05/11/2004 12:56:10 PM · #4
Originally posted by hbunch7187:

but I say just vote on them.

Me too. "Picking and choosing" which ones you are gote to vote on is not an appropriate way to rank images. If DPC was set up differently (say, for example, where "voting" was just picking your 10 favorite images and that was it), it would be a different story. But DPC relies on numerical scores assigned by each voter, and it is important that you rate the (random) images presented to you, and don't just say "ooh, I like this thumbnail, I think I'll vote on this one."

The voting scale is simply 1 to 10, with the words "Bad" on one side and "Good" on the other. Each voter can interpret how they choose to assign their rank on that scale based on whatever criteria they desire.
05/11/2004 01:06:29 PM · #5
I dont agree. I believe that when voting on images it shouldnt be entirely on whether you like or dislike an image but also on some technical merit as well. If a voter is unable to see any technical value to an image simply because they do not like the subject matter for personal reasons then not voting on them should be perfectly acceptable.

It would be unfair, in my opinion, for people to receive a 1 vote on an American flag, for example, just because the voter does not agree with the government policies of that country. I know that there are people who instantly vote 10 on the flag just because it is a flag also and so they cancel each other out but that was one of the better examples I could think of. If a voter felt they could not judge the photograph as a photograph without the heavily biased opinions having nothing to do with the image then not voting, IMHO, would be a good idea. I realise part of the challenge is subject matter but there are voters who have no heavy bias who can judge whether a subject is good, bad, or indifferent and adjust their score appropriately.
05/11/2004 01:15:06 PM · #6
The way this works is that everyone has their own voting style. As long as you're consistant with YOUR style, everything will work out in the end. One of the things I base my vote on is would I hang this on my wall or not. If that were the only thing I based my vote on, a subject I disliked could easily get a very low score from me. And I feel that if the voter feels that strongly about something, then it should be voiced. However, I do think that votes like that deserve a comment.
05/11/2004 01:33:50 PM · #7
I totally agree that everyone has their own voting style and that they are entitled to vote on whatever images they want with a score they feel is appropriate for whatever meets their voting criteria. Which is why I felt that whagerbaumer had every right to not rate images he felt he couldnt judge without some form of bias. Ignoring that and telling him to vote on every image goes against his right to vote with his own and consistent voting style.

I dont believe his intent was to open up what is or isnt appropriate when voting but simply stating that if you bypass an image during voting that it keeps appearing and forces you to vote to get rid of it from the queue. An additional option of 'I do not wish to rate this image' that would be the same as voting on it and dismissing it from the queue. I rarely feel the need to not rate an image, but I would welcome the option of doing so for the reasons I stated above.
05/11/2004 02:12:32 PM · #8
When you're voting, there's a little arrow sign right after the "10" on the voting scale that just lets you go right by the image without rating it. Some people might not know that.
05/11/2004 02:51:10 PM · #9
Originally posted by jodiecoston:

When you're voting, there's a little arrow sign right after the "10" on the voting scale that just lets you go right by the image without rating it. Some people might not know that.


Even when you use that the image will come back into the queue and you have to use the arrow several times throughout a voting session.
05/11/2004 02:59:48 PM · #10
I seems that he didn't consider the images 'bad' or 'good', he found them 'distasteful' and thought that he would rather not vote on them than give them a low score they perhaps did not deserve. The only equivalent he could find was 'bad' when they perhaps weren't. I think that his idea is a good one.
05/11/2004 03:50:04 PM · #11
There seems to be one or two pictures out of every two or three challenges that I can't seem to figure if I like them or not. Whether it is subject or style or what. When this happens I either don't vote on it or keep looking at it once in a while up to the last day and finally vote.

I just this second figured out how to leave a comment without voting, so I may do that once in a while instead of ignoring those shots.

drg

05/11/2004 04:55:08 PM · #12
go back to the thumbnail page and start with the photo just after the one you are trying to skip. that way it will be left for last.
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