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08/15/2013 10:29:37 AM · #1 |
So, some of you already know my husband and I have a Harley. FUN!
Anyways, we just recently received (not yet titled to us, still in the works) a '98 Honda Shadow ACE.
It doesn't run (definitely needs a battery and tune up, as it's been sitting in storage for 2 years), but this is going to be an AWESOME adventure. Hubby and I plan on starting the restoration on it soon.
This is going to be MY bike! How awesome is that? I'm gonna start riding front seat, rather than as a passenger! Talk about some awesome photography adventures. Getting out on the open road, going through the countryside... wind in my hair... gear all in tow.
I can't wait!
I'll try and get a pic of it up today. Hopefully we won't dump too much money into this project. But I am so excited. :)
Just wanted to share.
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08/15/2013 11:55:50 AM · #2 |
| Wind in your hair? nothing nicer then that but doesn't the law in the US require you to wear a helmet? |
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08/15/2013 11:57:46 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by theFREDfactor:
Wind in your hair? nothing nicer then that but doesn't the law in the US require you to wear a helmet? |
She's a WOMAN, Fred, and she's got long hair! It'll whip around quite nicely from underneath the helmet.
You GO, Denielle! |
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08/15/2013 11:59:17 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by theFREDfactor:
Wind in your hair? nothing nicer then that but doesn't the law in the US require you to wear a helmet? |
Sure, but you can just look at it as a fee you can pay if you'd like to not wear a helmet. ;) |
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08/15/2013 11:59:59 AM · #5 |
| Hondas tend to run pretty well and require minimal work generally. I'm betting it'll be a fine bike. |
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08/15/2013 12:27:08 PM · #6 |
| Helmet laws vary state to state. |
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08/15/2013 12:57:09 PM · #7 |
| an excuse to get a go-pro or whatever they're called? |
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08/15/2013 01:00:04 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by theFREDfactor:
Wind in your hair? nothing nicer then that but doesn't the law in the US require you to wear a helmet? |
She's a WOMAN, Fred, and she's got long hair! It'll whip around quite nicely from underneath the helmet. |
... and be horribly tangled at the end of a five-minute ride (speaking from personal experience here).
 
Message edited by author 2013-08-15 13:03:04. |
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08/15/2013 01:59:37 PM · #9 |
The current state I live in does require a helmet, but many don't.
Personally, I despise helmets. It's so much nicer riding without one, than with one.
As for the GoPro, yes. Another excuse, I mean reason, to get one!
And I ALWAYS carry a hairbrush. Usually I put my hair up when riding, but not always. :)
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08/15/2013 02:13:21 PM · #10 |
| Well, if that picture on the left is accurate, my hair's quite a bit longer than yours ... :-) |
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08/15/2013 02:19:16 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Well, if that picture on the left is accurate, my hair's quite a bit longer than yours ... :-) |
Yea, I chopped it off about a month ago. Was middle back length.
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08/15/2013 02:21:39 PM · #12 |
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08/15/2013 03:38:34 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Denielle:
Personally, I despise helmets. It's so much nicer riding without one, than with one.
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Until you crash... |
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08/15/2013 03:46:14 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by Denielle:
Personally, I despise helmets. It's so much nicer riding without one, than with one.
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Until you crash... |
From my riding experience as a passenger, the helmet causes more problems than good. My husband says the same thing about it as the one on the front. It causes problems in peripheral vision, the wind pulls it, and it's just uncomfortable.
Sure, if we crashed, I would want to be wearing a helmet... but so far, there have been none.
And once I begin riding (as a non passenger) I will definitely want to wear a helmet for a while. But on the open road, where helmet laws aren't required, you can bet I won't be wearing one.
Message edited by author 2013-08-15 15:46:29.
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08/15/2013 04:10:05 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Denielle:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by Denielle:
Personally, I despise helmets. It's so much nicer riding without one, than with one.
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Until you crash... |
From my riding experience as a passenger, the helmet causes more problems than good. My husband says the same thing about it as the one on the front. It causes problems in peripheral vision, the wind pulls it, and it's just uncomfortable.
Sure, if we crashed, I would want to be wearing a helmet... but so far, there have been none.
And once I begin riding (as a non passenger) I will definitely want to wear a helmet for a while. But on the open road, where helmet laws aren't required, you can bet I won't be wearing one. |
FWIW, I completely disagree with your decision. But I totally think it's your decision. :)
(Experience: First gas-powered three-wheeler @ age 3, many ATV's and Motorcycles thereafter)
(Disclaimer: I stay the f*&# off of these now, as I have found that I have a serious lack of respect for them) |
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08/15/2013 04:23:07 PM · #16 |
Personal experience....
Honda 50 - crashed it at 8 years old. I was showboating for my little brother (5 at the time). I was riding on a gravel road and did a little mini jump, but the front wheel landed in a pothole. I flipped off the bike. I was probably going 30 mph at the most.
Damage:
Helmet cracked (large cracks) in three places.
Lost most of my skin on the stomach and chest and a lot of the skin and meat on my right knee (the little that was there to begin with).
Bruised spleen.
Tire marks across my left shoulder where the bike ran me over after landing on its wheels :)
That pretty much ended that type of play for me. I am super cautious on ATV or the one time I rode my brothers bike.
Only thing that saved my life was the helmet. |
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08/15/2013 04:25:10 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Denielle:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by Denielle:
Personally, I despise helmets. It's so much nicer riding without one, than with one.
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Until you crash... |
From my riding experience as a passenger, the helmet causes more problems than good. My husband says the same thing about it as the one on the front. It causes problems in peripheral vision, the wind pulls it, and it's just uncomfortable.
Sure, if we crashed, I would want to be wearing a helmet... but so far, there have been none.
And once I begin riding (as a non passenger) I will definitely want to wear a helmet for a while. But on the open road, where helmet laws aren't required, you can bet I won't be wearing one. |
FWIW, I completely disagree with your decision. But I totally think it's your decision. :)
(Experience: First gas-powered three-wheeler @ age 3, many ATV's and Motorcycles thereafter)
(Disclaimer: I stay the f*&# off of these now, as I have found that I have a serious lack of respect for them) |
I get the whole "helmets save lives" thing.
My aunt was killed on a motorcycle (drunk driver hit her)
My uncle was thrown off and landed helmet first; hit so hard it cracked the helmet in half; it saved his life.
I was thrown off 4 wheelers numerous times (hit head first a couple times, perhaps that's why I am all screwy, lol).
I've been riding (as a passenger) for years on a motorcycle. 5 years with my husband, and many, many years before that. I've been thrown off a motorcycle as well... there was, in fact, a helmet law there... but my head didn't come in contact with anything, just my arm, hands, and legs...
I enjoy the ride more without one. It's much more freeing, more exhilarating, but that's just from my experience. :)
Anyways... gonna pull the bike out of storage tomorrow and start working on it!
First things first: Battery!
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08/15/2013 04:28:07 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by emoons:
Personal experience....
Honda 50 - crashed it at 8 years old. I was showboating for my little brother (5 at the time). I was riding on a gravel road and did a little mini jump, but the front wheel landed in a pothole. I flipped off the bike. I was probably going 30 mph at the most.
Damage:
Helmet cracked (large cracks) in three places.
Lost most of my skin on the stomach and chest and a lot of the skin and meat on my right knee (the little that was there to begin with).
Bruised spleen.
Tire marks across my left shoulder where the bike ran me over after landing on its wheels :)
That pretty much ended that type of play for me. I am super cautious on ATV or the one time I rode my brothers bike.
Only thing that saved my life was the helmet. |
I do agree that helmets can save lives... but, I won't be showboating. Just saying.
And, if people (other drivers) paid MORE ATTENTION to the road and the people on the road, there wouldn't be as many accidents. People just don't pay attention to motorcycles (from my experiences).
Like I said, I will be wearing one in the beginning (when I'm still learning)... but, when I am comfortable, AND on open road (not in a busy city), I won't wear it (if it's permitted).
In big cities, I don't trust anyone! I can't count the amount of times I've almost been in accidents due to stupid people. So I most DEFINITELY will NOT be going helmetless there! But country roads, open spaces... YES!!!
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08/15/2013 04:28:21 PM · #19 |
| You are right though....it does feel better to not have one on. |
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08/15/2013 04:31:37 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by emoons:
You are right though....it does feel better to not have one on. |
SO SO SO much!
That's something I hate about living in WV. There are helmet laws here. In OK there weren't any (well, with the exception of having to wear one on post; my husband was in the military, so we had to wear one then).
But even out there, if we went into OKC, I would wear a helmet... just because I didn't trust other people. But when we would just go cruisin the open country roads, it was no helmet at all!
On a side note, I always carried one in our bag, for a "just in case" situation.
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08/15/2013 04:35:09 PM · #21 |
Congrats on your bike project, Denielle! I am ACHING to ride again. It's been 10+ years since I sold my last bike (family responsibilities, bla bla bla).
Regarding helmets - I HATE HELMET LAWS! (I also hate seat belt laws or any other laws that take away an individual's right to choose). Anyway, I've had mixed results with helmets...
 I wrapped this around a steel lamp post at 55MPH on impact when I was 13 (full description in the notes) and I survived.
At 17, I was riding high speed wheelies in a field near my house while my g/f snapped some pics... 
and like  emoons, I ran myself over and cracked the helmet on both sides.
In my experience, when your number is up, it's up. When it's not, it's not. You really have little or no say about it. |
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08/15/2013 04:38:24 PM · #22 |
That's EXACTLY right Art!
Laws shouldn't take away an individuals rights. By me not wearing a helmet, I am not putting other drivers in danger, just like if I am not wearing a seatbelt.
Laws like this simply help fund the states; giving tickets left and right.
And when it's my time to go, it'll be my time. Whether thats by motorcycle, old age, being struck by lightning, eating diseased meat, etc. etc.
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08/15/2013 04:50:23 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Denielle:
By me not wearing a helmet, I am not putting other drivers in danger, just like if I am not wearing a seatbelt. |
If you are in an accident you can be costing them financially by (likely) incurring greater injury than you would otherwise ... society (or their insurance) will pay for that either directly by contibuting to your medical care, and indirectly by your lost productivity and inability to care for and support your dependents.
You may also "injure" them emotionally -- I know if I was involved in an accident where someone died I'd feel even worse than if they were injured, even if severely.
FWIW, in a poll, 100% of emergency room physicians wear seat belts.
My dad was somewhat ambivalent about helmet laws -- he viewed it mostly as a living example of Darwinian evolution in action, in that those riders who didn't wear helmets were less likely to survive to reproduce ...
Message edited by author 2013-08-15 16:52:36. |
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08/15/2013 04:55:12 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Denielle:
By me not wearing a helmet, I am not putting other drivers in danger, just like if I am not wearing a seatbelt. |
If you are in an accident you can be costing them financially by (likely) incurring greater injury than you would otherwise ... society (or their insurance) will pay for that either directly by contibuting to your medical care, and indirectly by your lost productivity and inability to care for and support your dependents.
You may also "injure" them emotionally -- I know if I was involved in an accident where someone died I'd feel even worse than if they were injured, even if severely.
FWIW, in a poll, 100% of emergency room physicians wear seat belts. |
I wouldn't sue their insurance unless they were at fault.
And sure, I'd feel worse if someone died as a result of an accident I caused.
If they were emotionally injured, then maybe they will pay more attention next time.
My mom killed a little girl on a bicycle when she was 16, the girl was 7 or 8. She was emotionally damaged from that. And I'd feel horrible.
But, I'm not changing my position on it.
Like I said, no helmet will be limited to open country roads, where there's not as much traffic. Chances are, an accident would be way less likely to happen there.
And safe bikers know to always ride in numbers, never go it alone (unless you have to). I won't be riding alone, so the chances of an accident are lessened by the pure fact of riding in numbers.
As for that poll, I wonder how many of those people aren't telling the truth.
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08/15/2013 04:56:48 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Denielle:
By me not wearing a helmet, I am not putting other drivers in danger, just like if I am not wearing a seatbelt. |
If you are in an accident you can be costing them financially by (likely) incurring greater injury than you would otherwise ... society (or their insurance) will pay for that either directly by contibuting to your medical care, and indirectly by your lost productivity and inability to care for and support your dependents. |
Lousy, but common argument. Apply that logic to EVERYTHING consistently, then see what kind of world we live in. No thanks. |
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