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11/26/2012 02:46:13 PM · #1 |
Well I finally broke down and went full frame! I bought the D600 for a number of reasons...not the least of which is size of the camera versus the D800, and size of every pic (though 36mp does sound pretty good).
Thought I would start a user group thread where we can share tips and info. You can start by posting, saying hi, and perhaps share your kit and/or a photo !
Nikon D800 users welcome too :)
For me...I bought the D600 kit since it was 200 off, figuring the discount on the lens would be good to have an extra FF lens. And the 24-85 is impressively light, and my test shots show pretty good. I also got a Lowepro Lowepro 350 AW DSLR Video Fastpack (Black) for free with the deal from Amazon and a few other little goodies.
Here's my FF kit so far:
D600
Nikon 24-85 VR
Nikon 24-70 F2.8
Nikon 70-200 F2.8 VR II
Nikon 50mm F1.8
Tamron 70-200 VC
Lensbaby (I think this is FF, not sure...)
What I will need to replace:
Nikon 10.5mm Fisheye
Sigma 10-20 F4.5-5.6 EX
Nikon 85mm Micro Nikkor Macro lens
I was eyeing the 12-24 Sigma, but the sample shots on Photozone didn't look nearly as compelling as the Nikon 16-35. I'm also tempted just to go with the 20mm Nikon F2.8 prime for wide...what a nice small lens!
For the fisheye, I am looking at the Nikon, the Sigma, and the cheaper Rokinons.
Suggestions for replacing these are welcomed!
Message edited by author 2012-11-26 14:46:42. |
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11/26/2012 03:01:54 PM · #2 |
I'll go sit in the corner with my D700.
Why not look at the 14-24mm f/2.8 from Nikon? It's an amazing lens. It's not easy to use with filters, but that's about the only fault I can find with it.
Message edited by author 2012-11-26 15:25:25. |
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11/26/2012 03:50:24 PM · #3 |
So far I've just been using my 28-300.
I love it. Love the camera.....high ISO performance is IMNSHO spectacular.
ETA: Haven't touched my D7000 since I got the D600.....8~(
Message edited by author 2012-11-26 15:51:35.
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11/26/2012 05:22:10 PM · #4 |
| Want me to send you over a feather duster to go with it? :) |
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11/26/2012 06:41:30 PM · #5 |
I'm sure the D600 is pretty awesome, because I'm enjoying the D800 a lot. The dynamic range is....amazing. I'm still getting used to all those megapixels, though, and the fact that the sensor now generally outresolves my lenses.
As far as lenses, the Nikon 50 f/1.8, 105 Micro and 300 f/4 are all great with the D800. The 80-400 is about what you'd expect from a long, slow lens. There isn't anything really wrong with the IQ, but the D800 doesn't do anything to help the lens' other problems, either. I'll probably be selling that one.
The jury is still out on the Tamron 28-75. I haven't shot enough with it to form a strong opinion yet. I always liked it on the D300. My copy has always front focused on the D300, though, and seems to front focus even more on the D800, and I haven't decided if it's fully correctable with AF fine tune yet. So I might be replacing this one. I really want this lens to work, because all of the alternatives are too damn heavy.
The Tokina 12-24 will work on FX down to 18mm, but I wasn't happy with the image quality. The entire left half of the image was consistently fuzzy. That was too bad, because the Tokina is a sweet lens on the D300. So I got a good deal on a used Nikon 17-35, which works nicely. The 14-24 is, by all accounts, stunningly sharp, but is a bit too exotic for my taste.
I've barely tried the 80-200 with the D800, so I don't have a strong opinion on it yet, but the little I did use it, it seemed like a reasonable match. I'm planning on getting the 70-200 f/4 to lighten my pack a bit, so I'll probably sell the 80-200 once the 70-200 comes. One thing I'm finding is that the autofocus on the AF-S lenses is more accurate than the non AF-S lenses, and with the D800, that seems to make a difference.
My D800 came as a kit with a 70-300, but I haven't actually tried the 70-300 on the D800 yet. My wife likes it a lot on my old D300. |
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11/26/2012 07:28:09 PM · #6 |
Ahhh I so have D600 envy, only drawback is as it is full frame, would have to replace my 18-200 and Siggy...both lenses which I have ribbonned with :-( But I DO want the greater ISO performance, that was the only feature of the *other* brand that I felt had the edge over Nikon.
Considered the D800, but 36 mps seems a bit much, the file sizes must be enormous. And if the sensor is outresolving the lenses, hmm.
But, I have no spare $$$ at the moment and the D90ii still works fine, so will stick with it for awhile longer. |
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11/26/2012 08:35:05 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Considered the D800, but 36 mps seems a bit much, the file sizes must be enormous. And if the sensor is outresolving the lenses, hmm. |
Raw files with the D800 are about 50MB. My very moderately powered laptop handles the files just fine, but I had to get new, fast memory cards, and have a talk with my hard drive before I bought the thing.
Honestly, if the D600 had been out when I was shopping, I probably would have bought it instead. A 36mp sensor will find the limits of your lenses. And your technique. That isn't necessarily bad, though. In any system, something has to be the weak link. Since the D1, the sensor has always been the weak link. Current sensors have gotten good enough that they're not the weak link anymore. Viewed at normal sizes, the D800 images are sharp, even with the lesser lenses. Really, really sharp. It's just at pixel peeping resolutions where you see the limits of the individual lenses, and some lenses that were awesome with the D300 don't cut it at pixel peeping resolutions on the D800.
As an example, we did a family Christmas card shoot over the weekend, using the D800 and the 80-200. Full body, standing, 2 adults, giant dog, and cat. Not exactly a closeup. I noticed when I was processing the images that my fingernails were a bit dirty. I ignored it, because at Christmas card resolution (or even at 8x10), you'll never see dirty fingernails. |
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11/26/2012 09:27:53 PM · #8 |
I would get away of the Sigma 12-24mm. it is well contructed but the vignetting and softness of the photos makes it hardly usable. And it has a strange color cast. I shoot some weddings with a friend that used one in a D300, and even then using the "sweet spot" of the lens we could pick each photo done wiht it beacuse of the vignette and the color cast.
The Nikon 16-35 is a great piece of glass. Great build quality, near as good as the 24-70. The only time I really miss the f2.8 is whne shooting indoors in tight spaces when the 24-70 f2.8 isn't just wide enough. Some reviews even put it in front of the 14-24 when used with the D800 in terms of sharpness.
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11/26/2012 09:49:54 PM · #9 |
Please let us know what are your toughts about the D600.
The D600 sure sounds like a bargain for all the features, but I haven't decide yet. For me 24 mp would be more than enough. And I'm a bit scared of the 36 MB of the D800 too. For me would be unpractical to shoot a wedding and have to deal with 900 photos with 50 MB each.
In other hand the focus system in the _D600 is slower, and the AF points beeing so close to the center. This would be bad to shoot moving subjects.
So I'm hoping to ear your feedback.
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11/27/2012 12:05:31 AM · #10 |
Thanks Nuno for the lens advice.
I have only had the D600 for a few days, and I've only done limited test shots. I think the focus works pretty well...better than my D7000.
Yes, the AF points are very clustered in the center. I am not sure why they did that! Looking at the D800 though, it's not significantly more spread out.
On the other hand, I usually use the center point, focus, and recompose, so for me it's not a big deal. I wish I could figure out how to get the camera to find the focus point automatically...auto mode is really bad at doing that, and I find it's a pain to move the focus point around (though I do that if on a tripod and my subject is stationary and off center, as it often is).
Everything else is pretty much like my D7000, except the zoom buttons are reversed for some reason, and there's a (annoying) lock on the mode dial. I find it a pain compared to the D7000. Mine never moved by accident. Hi ISO is very clean, though maybe only one stop better than my D7000, and it doesn't seem as important to expose to the right to get clean results, though i'm sure it will make things better if you do.
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11/27/2012 12:48:54 PM · #11 |
| I ordered one last week and can,t wait for it to arrive. I have waited a long time to upgrade and finally bit the bullet (early Christmas to myself). The D800 seemed a little too much camera for me. I have being buying FF lenses over the past few years and now will get to see them at their full potential. I love the D80, but it is a little tired. I am not the best photog, but I am looking forward to new learning experiences. |
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