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 09/27/2012 12:10:48 PM · #26
Originally posted by vawendy:


They're trying to keep it a photography site, not a photoshop site.


oh good, here I thought the message out of this DQ was to get better at arts and crafts.
 09/27/2012 12:16:07 PM · #27
Originally posted by mike_311:
yeah i get that, but in this case its clear the rod was a prop. would tooth picks have been ok? how how thin rigid wire? the point is, either allow us to clone out items used as props or not. distinguishing their prominence in the image inst a very good guideline.

otherwise we need to guess whether its going to be validated or not.


What's funny is that you proved that the photo was illegal in this post. You pointed out that the typical description of the original is a banana with a prop. And the typical description of the edited photo is a banana without a prop. This makes it clear that the edited photo changes a typical voters description of the photo. I don't see any guesswork here.
 09/27/2012 12:33:41 PM · #28
if the props were less pronominent it would have gotten validated.

my argument is that distinguishing their prominence is the wrong way to go about it. using props at all to create an image (so long as one has to remove them in post) should either be allowed or not, since the use of prop, no matter how large or small "changes the typical voters description of the photo" in every case. i just think its wrong to DQ this entry because the sticks he used were "too big", whereas if they used smaller sticks it may have been fine.

Message edited by author 2012-09-27 12:34:24.
 09/27/2012 12:46:16 PM · #29
Originally posted by mike_311:
if the props were less pronominent it would have gotten validated.

my argument is that distinguishing their prominence is the wrong way to go about it. using props at all to create an image (so long as one has to remove them in post) should either be allowed or not, since the use of prop, no matter how large or small "changes the typical voters description of the photo" in every case. i just think its wrong to DQ this entry because the sticks he used were "too big", whereas if they used smaller sticks it may have been fine.


Maybe the stick isn't the issue. maybe it's the fingers holding the stick in the bottom left corner. I do like the shot and it's no fun getting a ribbon from someone else's DQ. One thing is for sure though. mqnaufal has a great attitude towards this whole process.
 09/27/2012 12:50:20 PM · #30
that looks to be taken care of with crop.
 09/27/2012 12:54:12 PM · #31
Hey, just a quick thought here...

Did anyone notice the wonderful rapidity of the decision? I just want to thank the SC for moving quicker on these lately, and giving the front page time to the deserving folks who move up as a result of these DQ's.

Got to give credit where it's due, and the SC seems to have really taken up some slack here, thanks SC!

..

And again, all the respect in the world to mqnaufal, what a wonderful sport!
 09/27/2012 01:02:36 PM · #32
LOL, I was going to make a smart ass comment of how fast the validation happened, but i refrained.
 09/27/2012 01:05:38 PM · #33
Mmmm... We'e have witnessed the same discussion many a times without producing any fruitful end. Hope will be the same this time too. Indeed what I understood so far is, there is a thin line between what to remove what not to. So I'll stay confused forever unless there's a clear change/narration in the Adv editing rule. :)

By the way, this shot is not at all my kinda photography. I just wanted to give a shot. Learned some tricks during the shoot and now (in this thread). Thanks folks for the lovely support and knowledge-sharing mentality. This is a great place to learn.

Cheers.
 09/27/2012 01:06:49 PM · #34
Originally posted by mike_311:
that looks to be taken care of with crop.


Good point! My bad.
 09/27/2012 01:08:22 PM · #35
Originally posted by Cory:
Did anyone notice the wonderful rapidity of the decision? I just want to thank the SC for moving quicker on these lately,


Actually I submitted my original along with my entry itself. If they validated during the voting period I'd have not been disappointed by loosing my first ribbon. :)
 09/27/2012 01:08:57 PM · #36
Originally posted by sempermarine:
Originally posted by mike_311:
that looks to be taken care of with crop.


Good point! My bad.


Yeah, I cropped it straightaway in RAW editor itself.
 09/27/2012 01:10:54 PM · #37
Originally posted by mqnaufal:
Originally posted by Cory:
Did anyone notice the wonderful rapidity of the decision? I just want to thank the SC for moving quicker on these lately,


Actually I submitted my original along with my entry itself. If they validated during the voting period I'd have not been disappointed by loosing my first ribbon. :)


Ahh, true enough - but on the other hand, at least you got to find out that you had a ribbon winning shot before it was DQ'd. ;)
 09/27/2012 01:13:44 PM · #38
Originally posted by Cory:
Ahh, true enough - but on the other hand, at least you got to find out that you had a ribbon winning shot before it was DQ'd. ;)


Hahahaha. Even I wasn't happy with the shot I submitted here. Check this tweaked one //www.mqnaufal.com/Photography/View-only-photos/Misc/19394153_H8q5cM#!i=2113220819&k=654MD7m&lb=1&s=A here. This is how I wanted actually. :)

Message edited by author 2012-09-27 13:14:41.
 09/27/2012 01:17:13 PM · #39
Originally posted by mqnaufal:
Originally posted by Cory:
Ahh, true enough - but on the other hand, at least you got to find out that you had a ribbon winning shot before it was DQ'd. ;)


Hahahaha. Even I wasn't happy with the shot I submitted here. Check this tweaked one //www.mqnaufal.com/Photography/View-only-photos/Misc/19394153_H8q5cM#!i=2113220819&k=654MD7m&lb=1&s=A here. This is how I wanted actually. :)


I don't know... it's obvious that the copyright phrase is what's holding the banana in that shot...

(sorry!! I had to do it... :)
 09/27/2012 01:17:43 PM · #40
Originally posted by mqnaufal:
Originally posted by Cory:
Ahh, true enough - but on the other hand, at least you got to find out that you had a ribbon winning shot before it was DQ'd. ;)


Hahahaha. Even I wasn't happy with the shot I submitted here. Check this tweaked one //www.mqnaufal.com/Photography/View-only-photos/Misc/19394153_H8q5cM#!i=2113220819&k=654MD7m&lb=1&s=A here. This is how I wanted actually. :)


VERY nice.

I think you'll have another ribbon soon.
 09/27/2012 01:19:27 PM · #41
Originally posted by vawendy:
I don't know... it's obvious that the copyright phrase is what's holding the banana in that shot...

(sorry!! I had to do it... :)


lol
 09/27/2012 01:19:51 PM · #42
Originally posted by Cory:
VERY nice.

I think you'll have another ribbon soon.


Yeah soon. Thanks mate. :)
 09/27/2012 01:20:48 PM · #43
Originally posted by mqnaufal:
Originally posted by Cory:
Ahh, true enough - but on the other hand, at least you got to find out that you had a ribbon winning shot before it was DQ'd. ;)


Hahahaha. Even I wasn't happy with the shot I submitted here. Check this tweaked one //www.mqnaufal.com/Photography/View-only-photos/Misc/19394153_H8q5cM#!i=2113220819&k=654MD7m&lb=1&s=A here. This is how I wanted actually. :)


Btw, I like this shot -- fun idea. :)
 09/27/2012 01:24:13 PM · #44
Originally posted by vawendy:
Btw, I like this shot -- fun idea. :)


Oh that was inspired by a photographer in 500px. I'm not good at it. So, I left :)
 09/27/2012 01:28:13 PM · #45
Originally posted by mqnaufal:
Actually I submitted my original along with my entry itself. If they validated during the voting period I'd have not been disappointed by loosing my first ribbon. :)

Pre-submitted originals are not automatically checked during the voting, only if there is a validation request submitted, though I suppose you could have asked yourself.

A better plan, anytime you have something like this, where you are not sure whether it conforms to the rules or not, is to submit a ticket with the Before/After versions and an explanation, and get an *informal opinion* from one or more SC members (especially if you can do this a couple of days ahead of the deadline).

We cannot actually "pre-validate" an image ahead of time, since not everyone will have seen it, and it could be further edited before submission, but you can usually get a good enough idea to know if it likely to be a DQ or not.
 09/27/2012 01:29:58 PM · #46
Originally posted by mqnaufal:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Btw, I like this shot -- fun idea. :)


Oh that was inspired by a photographer in 500px. I'm not good at it. So, I left :)


I like here much better than 500px. Kind of a strange system that doesn't make a lot of sense, imo. Plus, I got lots of comments, but after awhile, you got sick of "cool!", "awesome!", "I like it!". They were just the same comments over and over. DPC is much better. :)
 09/27/2012 01:30:08 PM · #47
Oh, Thanks for the info.
 09/27/2012 01:33:16 PM · #48
Originally posted by vawendy:
Plus, I got lots of comments, but after awhile, you got sick of "cool!", "awesome!", "I like it!". They were just the same comments over and over. DPC is much better. :)


True.
 09/27/2012 01:33:57 PM · #49
Well we'll have the REAL striped shirt SC to make those calls now that the strike is over.
 09/27/2012 01:36:17 PM · #50
Originally posted by David Ey:
Well we'll have the REAL striped shirt SC to make those calls now that the strike is over.


if the billionares that run the NFL can see their market is unhappy maybe there is hope that Langdon will get off his butt and make the changes to improve this place.
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