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08/01/2012 12:27:59 PM · #1 |
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08/01/2012 12:33:01 PM · #2 |
| Don't necessarily want to watch at work. Can you summarize the sordid details? |
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08/01/2012 12:38:20 PM · #3 |
The Lawyers letter
Wow, I am sure that letter is all sorts of legal! |
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08/01/2012 12:40:51 PM · #4 |
I didn't even understand what the lawsuit was about. What is this guy being sued for? It's quite vague about what they are accusing the photographer of.
Message edited by author 2012-08-01 12:42:43.
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08/01/2012 12:43:03 PM · #5 |
| The couple claim the tog ruined their wedding. |
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08/01/2012 12:45:05 PM · #6 |
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08/01/2012 12:46:04 PM · #7 |
In an effort to summarize...
Wedding Couple hires Photog.
Photog shoots wedding for 3800 bucks, but does so without having signed contract.
Wedding Couple requests digital images instead of prints - 'they will handle it as they have LR, etc.'
Photog gives ALL digital files collected to Wedding Couple (including outtakes, closed eye shots, blurry stuff, etc).
Wedding Couple put up photos on FB and shares with friends, lots of happy comments and good stuff said about shots.
Wedding Couple (one of them a lawyer) decide to send letter (See Juliet's post) to Photog and demand recouping all money put out for photog and more (3800 +15K for 'ruining wedding')
Wedding Couple plan to sue for 300K or more.
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08/01/2012 12:48:57 PM · #8 |
I think public opinion will take care of this. I imagine the lawyer is getting nailed pretty hard since this went public.
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08/01/2012 01:06:57 PM · #9 |
| I enjoy the part where he says being a partner means it doesn't cost him anything to sue the guy. Uh, who's paying overhead for the practice then? The secretaries? |
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08/01/2012 01:09:57 PM · #10 |
| That has got to be one of the most unethical and unprofessional letters I have ever read! Pure bullying, no question. Let the internet viral smackdown begin! |
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08/01/2012 01:28:27 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by frisca:
That has got to be one of the most unethical and unprofessional letters I have ever read! Pure bullying, no question. Let the internet viral smackdown begin! |
i think the first, and maybe the only, thing i would do would be to take that letter down to the washington state bar association and let them deal with it. i don't think that attorney will be "making a living suing people" much longer... |
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08/01/2012 01:29:29 PM · #12 |
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08/01/2012 01:31:50 PM · #13 |
Gary hasn't posted the name of the lawyer yet and technically at this point its just a lawyer just being a bully trying to get the photog to hand money over. Once the lawyer actually puts the paper work through for the lawsuit then its all on public record at which point Gary will have no problem posting this douche's name and letting the wrath of the Internets land on the lawyers head.
eta: Here is Gary's update that details what I said. //www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT-RHypiuEg&feature=plcp
eta(again): Here is a link that hasn't already been posted. Nelson Tang's FB page! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nelson-Tang-Photography/337049428175
Message edited by author 2012-08-01 13:42:46. |
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08/01/2012 02:06:04 PM · #14 |
I'm not a fan of suing people unless there is no alternative, but in this case I would think Nelson could counter sue for extortion, blackmail or half a dozen other things.
The whole thing is just ridiculous. |
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08/01/2012 04:19:27 PM · #15 |
The threat to hire an SCO expert to smear Mr Tang's good name on the internet if he is not paid off, is the definition of extortion, and that is certainly actionable. I would be shocked given what the lawyer has written so far, if he was actually a member of the bar. If he is not, he can be jailed. If he is, he has probably done enough to be disbarred. I have seen a lot of letters threatening legal action, and they ought to be vague and menacing, not this sort of outright bullying.
If you really don't like a shooter's work, don't post hundreds of them on your Facebook. Once you post the work, how do you say it isn't usable?
As Gary pointed out Mr Tang did two things wrong.
1) He shot a wedding without a written contract. When you have a document where each of the parties spell out their obligations and sign a binding agreement to fulfill those promises, it makes the sort of legal extortion this lawyer is trying to pull, much tougher to pull off.
2) He handed over all his shots without culling the mistakes and burn frames. Even if the client wants to save a few bucks by doing the editing themselves, get rid of the duds before they leave your hands. Its bad enough that your name is going to be on whatever they do in editing, no point in giving the client shots that are of no use to them unless they want to smear you.
Message edited by author 2012-08-01 16:59:10. |
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08/01/2012 04:33:26 PM · #16 |
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08/01/2012 04:53:22 PM · #17 |
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08/01/2012 04:59:13 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
I have seen a lot of letters threatening legal action,... |
Is there something we should know? :D |
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08/01/2012 05:04:23 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
I have seen a lot of letters threatening legal action,... |
Is there something we should know? :D |
My father and brother are lawyers (mostly med-mal defense), and I'm a building contractor. I have issued and received more letters threatening legal action than I have gotten birthday cards. But it's OK, just civil court, I can be trusted around children. |
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08/01/2012 05:05:50 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
I have seen a lot of letters threatening legal action,... |
Is there something we should know? :D |
My father and brother are lawyers (mostly med-mal defense), and I'm a building contractor. I have issued and received more letters threatening legal action than I have gotten birthday cards. But it's OK, just civil court, I can be trusted around children. |
Whew! Cuz there are a lot of babies over in rant... :D (sooo kidding) |
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08/01/2012 05:42:12 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Whew! Cuz there are a lot of babies over in rant... :D (sooo kidding) |
Which should give you good reason to reconsider your position on abortion ... ;-) |
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08/01/2012 06:03:28 PM · #22 |
o.O daaaaang..... poor guy...
hahaha and its here in seattle. :/ some people are just so stupid. |
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08/01/2012 06:12:27 PM · #23 |
Get it right, people! He didnt ruin the wedding. He ruined the wedding memories. Obviously these poor people are experiencing temporary amnesia, that only money can rectify.
Pooor things.... :,( |
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08/01/2012 06:16:18 PM · #24 |
Well, we live in such a litigious society! Our culture invites this type of behavior.
Really, I have to ask the question, how would this situation be handled in other cultures?
Waiter, there's a fly in my soup! |
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08/10/2012 02:54:01 AM · #25 |
| I think those lawyers who are willing to help him, will get extremely famous, and get more business in future.. Unfortunately, i am not a lawyer.. |
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