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07/27/2012 04:57:33 PM · #51 |
i'd like to see some examples of one vs. the other interpetation, just for my (and other's) education...
[i know i could goggle it, but a selected subset would be better for this purpose, IMHO)
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07/27/2012 05:50:00 PM · #52 |
| Ha. I didn't know this thread was going to explode when I last posted. Not a very juicy rant, but I agree with Juliett. Grease up with Vaseline and have fun. |
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07/27/2012 06:23:40 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Ha. I didn't know this thread was going to explode when I last posted. Not a very juicy rant, but I agree with Juliett. Grease up with Vaseline and have fun. |
Yup -- I'm game to try it. Ever since someone said it was stupid to use a UV filter on L series glass, I've taken all my filters off. (which is probably more stupid). So I have extra filters that I can definitely vasoline!
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07/27/2012 06:31:24 PM · #54 |
wait, juliet meant vasoline on FILTERS? well that changes everything.
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Ha. I didn't know this thread was going to explode when I last posted. Not a very juicy rant, but I agree with Juliett. Grease up with Vaseline and have fun. |
Yup -- I'm game to try it. Ever since someone said it was stupid to use a UV filter on L series glass, I've taken all my filters off. (which is probably more stupid). So I have extra filters that I can definitely vasoline! |
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07/27/2012 08:05:08 PM · #55 |
Stick Vaseline on anything it becomes soft and blurry!!! =P
I meant really old school, on the actual lens. But filters will work! lol or cling film, |
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07/27/2012 08:19:36 PM · #56 |
| Nylons give a nice blur, plus you get a cool starburst on the highlights. and are much easier to clean up than petroleum jelly. |
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07/27/2012 08:26:07 PM · #57 |
Cory, i assume you tried PMing langdon/ site council first? Sent a ticket? Dude I read your initial post and its just too negative-ish. Its up to you to decide how you talk/write but the way you approached trying to get something fixed really left a bad taste in my mouth.
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07/27/2012 08:28:37 PM · #58 |
Yes, plastic film, even colored plastic bags or nylons work well, as does petroleum jelly. But if you accidentally get vasoline on your L lens, you may be talking in strange tongues for a while, as it doesn't come off easily and you might turn grouchy.
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07/27/2012 09:35:59 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Ha. I didn't know this thread was going to explode when I last posted. Not a very juicy rant, but I agree with Juliett. Grease up with Vaseline and have fun. |
Used the Vaseline trick here  might break out my old 50 1.8 and do it again for this challenge. Or there are a few more techniques. But would what I posted be considered soft focus? |
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07/27/2012 09:39:39 PM · #60 |
Okay, so maybe , right now, we could turn this discussion into something positive!!!
What METHODS can we use to create blur, soft focus, WITHOUT PS.
I think that would be a really good learning and positive experience to share!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring it on DPC............... |
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07/27/2012 09:57:21 PM · #61 |
I've been surfing thru the photos in the Blurry July SC. I have a question: does lensbaby do soft focus?
Message edited by author 2012-07-27 21:57:59. |
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07/27/2012 10:03:08 PM · #62 |
| How do you tell the difference between missed focus & soft focus just by looking at the photograph? |
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07/27/2012 10:06:40 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:
Used the Vaseline trick here might break out my old 50 1.8 and do it again for this challenge. Or there are a few more techniques. But would what I posted be considered soft focus? |
Yes, for me. But not high-key. |
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07/27/2012 10:38:41 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by pixelpig:
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:
Used the Vaseline trick here might break out my old 50 1.8 and do it again for this challenge. Or there are a few more techniques. But would what I posted be considered soft focus? |
Yes, for me. But not high-key. |
haha! definitely not high key -- but it's pretty darn cool!
I think I'll play with Vaseline. (that really does sound bad...)
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07/27/2012 10:39:13 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by pixelpig:
How do you tell the difference between missed focus & soft focus just by looking at the photograph? |
I think someone talked about it early on -- I'll see if I can find it.
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07/27/2012 10:44:01 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by yakatme:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Or he doesn't agree with your interpretation of soft focus not being blur.
Or maybe he's doing it intentionally just to piss YOU off.
Don't be Rose. |
WTF is that last line for, Spork? That was a thinly veiled insult, seemingly innocent but it really wasn't. Implying that Cory is acting like Rose is an exaggeration and an insult.
What does that do for the thread? What does it do for DPChallenge? It's stupid crap like that which reinforces some people's decision not to participate here. Remarks like that contribute to the decline of this website.
I don't post here much anymore because of this decline. I do check in once in awhile to read through the forums and check out some images. When I see remarks like that it makes me sick to my stomach.
Back to the topic: I totally agree with the points raised by Cory. I believe that they are valid and worthy of discussion. |
And the OP's post was any better? Personally attacking the owner of the site, and calling for his ouster.
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07/27/2012 10:52:00 PM · #67 |
It's too bad that people can't see it as an experiment. I've now looked at only two sites, found three suggestions and I want to try them all.
Nylons were mentioned. I haven't worn nylons in years. But they say use the little bootie nylons that the stores buy in bulk for trying on shoes. I'm sure they wont mind parting with one.
plastic wrap over the lens, and the baby oil on the plastic wrap. Different results whether you apply it in a circle or just in back and forth smear.
loose weave medicinal gauze -- softer focus than nylons. The camera may tend to focus on the gauze, so you might have to help it a bit.
Then there's the sticky option:
If you're looking for an eccentric creative option, experiment with adding a sticky liquid to a UV, sky or haze filter. After the photo session, the filter will need a thorough cleaning and could be ruined depending on the liquid used. Try dribbling a thick, light-colored honey, agave syrup or sugar syrup along the top of the filter. As the liquid flows down the filter, photograph a spooky scene, such as a cemetery at night or the moon framed by barren trees. The drips will cause the image to look distorted and diffused as if the scene melted.
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07/28/2012 01:29:22 AM · #68 |
Originally posted by pixelpig:
How do you tell the difference between missed focus & soft focus just by looking at the photograph? |
To my mind soft focus is the result of effects (vapor or vasoline or some softening agent on the lens) or of lens spherical aberration in the lens itself, as opposed to good old missed focus. The big difference as a viewer is that there is a crispness to the darks while the brights are a bit muzzy and glowing, sort of a warm early morning feeling.
As usual wikipedia has a nice definition, but use it only for your own edification; do not expect whatever you might learn to be reflected in your score. |
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07/28/2012 09:14:09 AM · #69 |
Originally posted by alohadave:
And the OP's post was any better? Personally attacking the owner of the site, and calling for his ouster. |
It wasn't a personal attack. He collects money from paying members and that makes him fair game for criticism.
Cory wasn't calling for his ouster, he merely stated that if Langdon isn't up to the task of picking challenges, someone else should do it.
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07/28/2012 10:06:26 AM · #70 |
| This time of year all I have to do is take the camera from my air-conditioned house into the sauna that is the great outdoors and voila: condensation all over the lens! Also all over my glasses. Those I need to clean so I have half a chance of determining if the camera has managed to focus on something through all its dewiness ;-) Now I need to work on the high key bit ... |
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07/28/2012 11:35:06 AM · #71 |
Originally posted by MaryO:
This time of year all I have to do is take the camera from my air-conditioned house into the sauna that is the great outdoors and voila: condensation all over the lens! Also all over my glasses. Those I need to clean so I have half a chance of determining if the camera has managed to focus on something through all its dewiness ;-) Now I need to work on the high key bit ... |
eeek... good for your soft focus, VERY BAD for your camera electronics! |
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07/28/2012 11:49:44 AM · #72 |
Originally posted by alohadave:
Originally posted by yakatme:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Or he doesn't agree with your interpretation of soft focus not being blur.
Or maybe he's doing it intentionally just to piss YOU off.
Don't be Rose. |
WTF is that last line for, Spork? That was a thinly veiled insult, seemingly innocent but it really wasn't. Implying that Cory is acting like Rose is an exaggeration and an insult.
What does that do for the thread? What does it do for DPChallenge? It's stupid crap like that which reinforces some people's decision not to participate here. Remarks like that contribute to the decline of this website.
I don't post here much anymore because of this decline. I do check in once in awhile to read through the forums and check out some images. When I see remarks like that it makes me sick to my stomach.
Back to the topic: I totally agree with the points raised by Cory. I believe that they are valid and worthy of discussion. |
And the OP's post was any better? Personally attacking the owner of the site, and calling for his ouster. |
To answer your question in one word: Absolutely!
The OP pointed out another example in a long list of instances in which someone perceived that the challenge description simply appeared to be cut and pasted without consideration for the accuracy of what was being said. He didn't call for the ouster of Langon, he suggested Langdon "hand the reigns to someone else, at least for posting challenges". Many people have suggested that Langdon put someone in charge of something or another from time to time because it appears that Langdon is not taking an active enough role in running this website.
This is not new and it is not "Personally attacking the owner of the site, and calling for his ouster." |
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07/30/2012 03:59:03 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by MistyMucky:
This site has everything required to be great, except some civility at the moment. |
We really shouldn't have to repeat this every few posts, in every thread. Stop the personal sniping or face the consequences ... |
Misty, you should have kept your head buried. :) |
I will bury again, after writing the next line :) I did not expect that the SC got mutinous too...
Anyway, I was just trying to react towards the original post, nothing personal there. If you follow the challenge description, you get a high key blur, so there is no big deal there. Certainly no reason for a big outcry against the site owner. But then I probably missed a lot since the last time I was around here (and should have said 'Hello again' in another way). So if I have to face the consequences ?whatever they are? I will happily, and remember DPC as I liked it (that is Langdon style). |
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07/31/2012 11:15:42 AM · #74 |
| submitted my entry now i just need to come up with a witty title... |
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07/31/2012 11:55:51 AM · #75 |
| i may try to re-edit mine as im not completely happy with it, any way to achieve soft focus in post? or at least enhance it and of course within the basic ruleset. |
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