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04/19/2004 11:15:38 AM · #26
Try to hold your 10D steady with a 400mm f/2.8 lens and then try to hold it steady with a 70-200mm f/2.8 and tell me which one is easier to hold steady.

Greg
04/19/2004 11:20:35 AM · #27
Originally posted by dadas115:

Try to hold your 10D steady with a 400mm f/2.8 lens and then try to hold it steady with a 70-200mm f/2.8 and tell me which one is easier to hold steady.

Greg


Easy. The 400 mmm lens with a monopod.

h
04/19/2004 11:23:13 AM · #28
Originally posted by outofreachx:

Tomorrow morning, I will be returning my 300D for a full refund.


From your web site it appears that you have a full lens outfit for canon. You do know that Canon lenses don't fit on a Nikon body, right? So you'll have to get a new set of optics as well.

Message edited by author 2004-04-19 11:23:42.
04/19/2004 11:24:21 AM · #29
Nice edit SharQ, I was a little confused when I first read your post :P
04/19/2004 11:25:23 AM · #30
LOL SharQ Just as I clicked on QUOTE to ask whether you meant Nikon you edited it and the version that opened ready for me to reply to was not the version I had JUST read!

LOL!

04/19/2004 11:25:59 AM · #31
Hehehe... Busted!
04/19/2004 11:28:33 AM · #32
Originally posted by dadas115:

Try to hold your 10D steady with a 400mm f/2.8 lens and then try to hold it steady with a 70-200mm f/2.8 and tell me which one is easier to hold steady.

A more fair comparison would be the 70-200/4 vs. 70-200/2.8.

Assuming qqual movement of the body/lens combo, apparent movement in the viewfinder will exagerated by the 400mm focal length.
04/19/2004 11:32:11 AM · #33
Even on a monopod that monster isn̢۪t easy to hold steady and I am speaking from lots of first hand experience.

Greg

Originally posted by SharQ:

Originally posted by dadas115:

Try to hold your 10D steady with a 400mm f/2.8 lens and then try to hold it steady with a 70-200mm f/2.8 and tell me which one is easier to hold steady.

Greg


Easy. The 400 mmm lens with a monopod.

h
04/19/2004 11:32:44 AM · #34
Originally posted by dwoolridge:

Now hold the the heavier object (like a book) for several hours and see if you can keep it steadier than a light object (like a pencil).

I don't hold my camera in the shooting position for hours. (An Op/Tech Pro Strap holds my camera for me between shots so my arms don't get tired.) In situations where I do need to be in a shooting position for hours (i.e., football game), I bring a monopod since I understand that fatigue is a factor.

But shot-to-shot, Newton's law of inertia (thanks Shannon!) says it will be easier to keep the heavier object steady, regardless of how much or how little that influence is. I know that the I've personally noticed the difference between shooting with my 10D/grip and when I grab my Dad's G3 to take a picture with "his camera".
04/19/2004 11:35:34 AM · #35
I have both the f/4 and the f/2.8L IS and the f/4 is WORLDS easier to hand hold when not using IS.

Greg

Originally posted by EddyG:

Originally posted by dadas115:

Try to hold your 10D steady with a 400mm f/2.8 lens and then try to hold it steady with a 70-200mm f/2.8 and tell me which one is easier to hold steady.

A more fair comparison would be the 70-200/4 vs. 70-200/2.8.

Assuming qqual movement of the body/lens combo, apparent movement in the viewfinder will exagerated by the 400mm focal length.
04/19/2004 11:45:17 AM · #36
I think it is less an issue of the overal weight, than it is of balance.

My D60 feels a lot more balanced in use with a heavier lens, than when I do the same with a film Rebel body.

The center of balance of the equipment moves further out from my body, with a lighter camera body. The battery grip further enhances that.

On the flip side, my friend who shoots sports semi-professionally is developing tendonitis from the weight of running around with a 10D and 100-400 IS lenses for the length of a football game - he finds a monopod too restrictive for his style. YMMV
04/19/2004 11:48:50 AM · #37
Originally posted by dadas115:

Even on a monopod that monster isn̢۪t easy to hold steady and I am speaking from lots of first hand experience.


Haven't used a 400/2.8 since I used my EOS 1Nhs on a regular basis, but when you have a well-balanced camera and lens combination (the heavy 1Nhs combined with a heavy lens), the monopod should make life a lot easier. Of course, you aren't pushing air around, so it is still trickery and technique, but with training, I found it to be quite possible.

h
04/19/2004 11:57:06 AM · #38
Oh, it is quite possible, I actually don̢۪t have much trouble getting sharp shots hand holding the 400mm f/2.8 at all. It̢۪s just easier to do it with a lighter weight lens. Or are you saying that the 400 f/2.8 should be easier to hold steady on a monopod than the 70-200 f/2.8 on a monopod?

Greg
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