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04/21/2012 11:49:47 AM · #1 |
| My current pc (fairly new) is a core i3 pc with Win7 32-bit and 4 gig or ram (3.1 usable). I am contantly getting errors when trying to run my filters in photoshop that there is not enough ram to process it. I have already done the setting in PS allowing it to use more ram. What is maddening about this is that on my 5 year old pc, doing the same things I did not get these problems and I only had 2 gig of ram. The only other change is I am using a 5D Mark 2 now instead of my old Rebel. |
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04/21/2012 12:02:19 PM · #2 |
| But that is surely the reason the files will be over three times the size ? |
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04/21/2012 12:15:50 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by smardaz: My current pc (fairly new) is a core i3 pc with Win7 32-bit and 4 gig or ram (3.1 usable). I am contantly getting errors when trying to run my filters in photoshop that there is not enough ram to process it. I have already done the setting in PS allowing it to use more ram. What is maddening about this is that on my 5 year old pc, doing the same things I did not get these problems and I only had 2 gig of ram. The only other change is I am using a 5D Mark 2 now instead of my old Rebel. |
The files are way bigger now. Double your RAM. |
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04/21/2012 12:58:46 PM · #4 |
You will probably need to update your OS to the 64-bit version and then add additional RAM. It's possible that controlling other apps & processes that may be running may get you enough free RAM to get by, you really need 8GB (which means a 64-bit OS). You will notice a definite improvement in performance as well, since you'll be paging much less.
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04/21/2012 01:20:27 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by kirbic: You will probably need to update your OS to the 64-bit version and then add additional RAM. It's possible that controlling other apps & processes that may be running may get you enough free RAM to get by, you really need 8GB (which means a 64-bit OS). You will notice a definite improvement in performance as well, since you'll be paging much less. |
What he said. When I went over to the 64-bit machine, CS5 performance just LEAPT forward. No comparison.
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04/21/2012 02:32:44 PM · #6 |
| So CS5 will address 8 gigs? |
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04/21/2012 02:59:38 PM · #7 |
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Message edited by author 2012-04-21 15:00:32. |
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04/21/2012 03:11:27 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by smardaz: So CS5 will address 8 gigs? |
Yup...
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04/21/2012 06:05:48 PM · #9 |
Anyone ever tried Windows 7's "ReadyBoost"? It apparently gives you a quick easy fix for not enough RAM by letting you use something like a flash drive.
Gonna toss out some knowledge here (that I learned 15 minutes ago and may not fully understand)... Apparently, accessing the flash drive is faster than accessing information on a big ol hard drive, which makes sense. Right now your RAM is filling up, so it's dumping stuff on your hard drive to ease the load (swap files), and because you're doing so much of it (thrashing) it's causing problems. So, when you do this "ReadyBoost" if the RAM gets overwhelmed rather than dumping files on the hard drive it sees the flash drive and uses that first. Because the flash drive is faster than accessing the hard drive the system gets the information it's needing faster and therefore doesn't throw out as many errors.
I just read about it a few minutes ago for school and laughed that it might actually be relevant and helpful here. Obviously, I wouldn't use it as a permanent fix, but it might help stop the crashes until you can upgrade your stuff.
Edit to add: Would this work for Jason with a 32 bit that he's already got 4 gigs of RAM installed on?
Message edited by author 2012-04-21 18:08:31. |
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04/21/2012 07:41:51 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by aliqui:
Edit to add: Would this work for Jason with a 32 bit that he's already got 4 gigs of RAM installed on? |
It would. It works for all version of Win7. The memory limits for 32-bit operting systems don't apply, because the flash drive is "paged" memory just like that written temporarily to a hard drive. The onlyh real advantage is that the flash drive may be faster.
Honestly, though, I don't really see a big advantage to doing this. It's not even close to being a substitute for a 64-bit OS and more RAM. That's partly why you don't hear much about it.
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04/21/2012 10:03:50 PM · #11 |
| thanks guys, i had kinda resigned myself to the 64 bit solution a while ago. Wont be a problem to get it and more than enough ram from work |
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04/21/2012 11:56:44 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by kirbic: The onlyh real advantage is that the flash drive may be faster. |
I seriously doubt it since an older system would likely be accessing the flash drive via USB 2.0, which is MUCH slower than a hard drive. |
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04/22/2012 12:24:12 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by kirbic: Originally posted by aliqui:
Edit to add: Would this work for Jason with a 32 bit that he's already got 4 gigs of RAM installed on? |
It would. It works for all version of Win7. The memory limits for 32-bit operting systems don't apply, because the flash drive is "paged" memory just like that written temporarily to a hard drive. The onlyh real advantage is that the flash drive may be faster.
Honestly, though, I don't really see a big advantage to doing this. It's not even close to being a substitute for a 64-bit OS and more RAM. That's partly why you don't hear much about it. |
Yea, I was definitely thinking of a temporary solution. Like if Jason just HAD to process right now something for a challenge or something. |
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04/24/2012 09:29:08 AM · #14 |
I own an I5 processor, some old nvidia laptop card, and 4 gigs of ram. Photoshop works reasonably quickly. I have a 64 bit OS but i use 32 bit photoshop on account of certain plugins because i feel 64bit is not completely supported by some plugins.
Ram has not yet been a limiting factor. I m sure more could be faster, but not really been a primary issue till now. i m thinking there might be some underlying issue rather than just the ram. I process 5dmkiii images and sometimes have 20+ layers running. |
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04/24/2012 07:51:45 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Devinder: I own an I5 processor, some old nvidia laptop card, and 4 gigs of ram. Photoshop works reasonably quickly. I have a 64 bit OS but i use 32 bit photoshop on account of certain plugins because i feel 64bit is not completely supported by some plugins.
Ram has not yet been a limiting factor. I m sure more could be faster, but not really been a primary issue till now. i m thinking there might be some underlying issue rather than just the ram. I process 5dmkiii images and sometimes have 20+ layers running. |
that was my thought also, espiecially with how easily it worked on my old pc, but for the life of me I can't figure it out
Message edited by author 2012-04-24 19:51:54. |
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