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02/24/2012 05:41:04 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
I'm trying to figure how animals so smart can end up in nets we leave out for tuna. |
Hmmm .... one can only wonder.
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02/24/2012 06:05:15 PM · #27 |
| I will defer on this one to the well thought out opinions of Mr. B Music. But how the hell does Sea world put an orca back in the show after it kills a trainer, only to kill again? seems a bit silly. |
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02/25/2012 12:02:05 PM · #28 |
I don't think they necessarily set out to win. I mean I'm sure they hoped they would, but the sensational language has got us talking about something that seriously needs to be addressed.
It makes me a bit sick the ego we have as humans. We act like the world and everything in it is ours for the taking and scoff at the notion that it's any other way. We really aren't that smart. Dolphins and whales have the right idea. Swim, play, communicate, have sex, eat. That's about all you need. Working all day is a human invention, and I frankly think it was a dumb one.
âMan's destiny was to conquer and rule the world, and this is what he's done.. almost. He hasn't quite made it, and it looks as though this may be his undoing. The problem is that man's conquest of the world has itself devastated the world. And in spite of all the mastery we've attained, we don't have enough mastery to stop devastating the world.. or to repair the devastation we've already wrought.â
~Daniel Quinn
âDo you see the slightest evidence anywhere in the universe that creation came to an end with the birth of man? Do you see the slightest evidence anywhere out there that man was the climax toward which creation had been straining from the beginning? ...Very far from it. The universe went on as before, the planet went on as before. Man's appearance caused no more stir than the appearance of jellyfish.â
~Daniel Quinn, Ishmael: An Adventure of the Mind and Spirit
Ishmael is a must read.
Message edited by author 2012-02-25 12:02:44. |
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02/25/2012 04:38:37 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
I will defer on this one to the well thought out opinions of Mr. B Music. But how the hell does Sea world put an orca back in the show after it kills a trainer, only to kill again? seems a bit silly. |
humans arent very smart either. |
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02/25/2012 05:16:44 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
I'm trying to figure how animals so smart can end up in nets we leave out for tuna. |
We don't "leave the nets out"; tuna are harvested by purse seiners who rapidly and efficiently encircle whole schools of fish (and the dolphins that travel with them) in a net that has a drawstring closure at the bottom. The net's connected in a circle, pursed at the bottom, and the whole thing's lifted out of the sea and dumped onto the boat. This is panic city, man, it's not that easy to escape from. Cf the crowd behavior of humans faced with extreme danger.
It's slightly off topic, but let me throw in a plug for a wonderful book called "Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds": It's a mid-19th century work, available here courtesy of Project Gutenberg.
R.
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02/25/2012 11:16:40 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
We don't "leave the nets out"; tuna are harvested by purse seiners who rapidly and efficiently encircle whole schools of fish (and the dolphins that travel with them) in a net that has a drawstring closure at the bottom. The net's connected in a circle, pursed at the bottom, and the whole thing's lifted out of the sea and dumped onto the boat. This is panic city, man, it's not that easy to escape from. Cf the crowd behavior of humans faced with extreme danger.
R. |
very easy to escape from, didn't you ever see Finding Nemo? Just swim down :) |
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