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02/14/2012 10:28:24 AM · #26 |
 MargaretN , (and for anyone else who might be hesitant) I just want to add this as food for thought.
It *IS NOT* an end all be all, just something to think upon... quite often, it is not what you say but how you say it that is important.
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* If you offer your impression or advice in a pro/con, strength/weakness, "I may be off base but I think/feel...", fair & balanced fashion 99% of the time people are willing and open to listening to what you have to say.
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* Let them know why it caught your attention - it may be that it made you think something from of 'x' story, 'x' saying, 'x' scene from movie etc. There is a world of our experiences, both shared and personal, that we draw on when looking at photos. Let's see, for example  your previous Urban Nature entry. I look upon the image and I feel the autumn chill and the dampness in the air because it made me recall the feel of autumn chill and smell of wet rain as I rushed to class back in college - saying how the imagery touched you can be just as important to the photographer/artist.
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*Time and attention - exploring the why it was done the way it was presented IS enriching to both the photographer and commenter. This is the method of approaching an image from the angle of trying to understand what the photographer was trying to convey. It is akin to exploring different camera angles and ways of taking a picture of say the Eiffel Tower - you try to find what/how will make it interesting and in the process discover something new.
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02/14/2012 10:31:34 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by CNovack:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
I find it impossible to comment on this challenge because I know how much each entry means to its owner. We all had 3 weeks to choose the best of our best of a whole year 2011. I feel intimidated by this fact alone. |
Understood. One fears that what one says will be abrasive or flat out wrong (for example, the artist may have been incorporating the technique of bokeh to project mood and it was fully intentional rather than having everything crystal clear sharp).
But if you don't venture out to explore how to express your thoughts by exploring other imagery how/where do you draw inspiration from? How do you discover new things and new 'angles' of thought? Commenting can be another avenue of looking at things in a new light and as such it enriches not just the photographer who receives the comment but the commentor too. |
(Bold added by me) - this is my major problem. I like commenting, but am not very good with written words, so I worry that I will offend people with my opinion or thoughts, and I'm also not very good at making pictures either, so I really have no clue on the technicals. So I try to be nice yet still comment/criticise according to my opinion. And that's just what it is - only my opinion.
Anyway, I'm trying really hard to comment and vote on this whole challenge and so far:
You have commented on 85 images (21%) in this challenge.
...It's really hard >.< |
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02/14/2012 10:54:46 AM · #28 |
if people dont like my comments too bad. sometimes it may come off as harsh, but i do try to explain a little why I like or dont like an image or even how i would change it.
so for i have gotten three PMs thanking me for my comments and how i felt it could be improved or why the image didn't resonate with me.
commenting is mainly an exercise for myself with mutual benefits to the photographer.
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02/14/2012 10:57:31 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by pamb:
[quote=CNovack]
I like commenting, but am not very good with written words, so I worry that I will offend people with my opinion or thoughts, and I'm also not very good at making pictures either, so I really have no clue on the technicals. So I try to be nice yet still comment/criticise according to my opinion. And that's just what it is - only my opinion.
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you don have to be good at taking them to know what you like, if it looks oversharpned , say so, if the colors are off, say so, if the composition isnt working for you say so.
those comments i feel are much more important than "that's pretty" plus you find that YOU wont make the same mistakes in your images. |
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02/14/2012 11:07:32 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by pamb:
Originally posted by CNovack:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
I find it impossible to comment on this challenge because I know how much each entry means to its owner. We all had 3 weeks to choose the best of our best of a whole year 2011. I feel intimidated by this fact alone. |
Understood. One fears that what one says will be abrasive or flat out wrong (for example, the artist may have been incorporating the technique of bokeh to project mood and it was fully intentional rather than having everything crystal clear sharp). ....
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(Bold added by me) - this is my major problem. I like commenting, but am not very good with written words, so I worry that I will offend people with my opinion or thoughts, and I'm also not very good at making pictures either, so I really have no clue on the technicals. So I try to be nice yet still comment/criticise according to my opinion. And that's just what it is - only my opinion.
Anyway, I'm trying really hard to comment and vote on this whole challenge and so far:
You have commented on 85 images (21%) in this challenge.
...It's really hard >.< |
Not going to sugarcoat it, for commenting is difficult at times...it is a challenge:-) Commenting is an art - the more you practice what and HOW you say things the better you are for it. I'm sure some do not find value in leaving comments because it takes too much of their time or the fear of doing so controls them. BUT, taking the time to explore and/or analyze what a photo does for us, how it affects us, and expressing that in a comment can and does enrich us in ways that are not physically measurable. I cannot tell you how many times I have looked upon a photo that it inspired me to try a new angle, look at 'x' subject in a new light, or just made me stop and think why do I like what I see or not see.
One does not necessarily HAVE to comment on all the images in a challenge...you may set a goal number that you would like to achieve. I sometimes set a number for myself but rarely meet that because the driving force is what I want to express takes time. I am wordy....which is why I will never be able to reach 100% on commenting even on small challenges that have 50 entries. I think too much:-) |
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02/14/2012 12:23:29 PM · #31 |
| I am suffering from the DPC burnout at the moment and can't stand looking at many similar images any more. Especially my own ;) |
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02/14/2012 01:30:56 PM · #32 |
just went on a marathon. only a hundred to go, i skipped over many uninteresting so it is going to take a while to get through those.
You have rated 300 of 405 images (74%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 300 of 405 images (74%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.0267. |
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02/14/2012 01:32:19 PM · #33 |
You have rated 155 of 405 images (38%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 35 images (9%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.3032.
My goal is 100 comments. Good start this morning on reaching that goal. |
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02/14/2012 03:33:13 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by njsabs:
You have rated 155 of 405 images (38%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 35 images (9%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.3032.
My goal is 100 comments. Good start this morning on reaching that goal. |
Thank you, Jennifer. I received a comment from you on the Best of challenge today and found it especially helpful. Thanks for taking the time on this.
I will try to follow your lead on this and block out some time this week to make more comments. |
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02/14/2012 04:19:06 PM · #35 |
You have rated 115 of 405 images (28%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 42 images (10%) in this challenge.
Im trying |
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02/14/2012 04:23:23 PM · #36 |
You have rated 178 of 405 images (44%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 31 images (8%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.4551
Fingers are not going to hold out... I don't just comment I write a frigging book!! My fingers run just like my mouth do in RL... Overtime!! LOL |
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02/14/2012 05:00:00 PM · #37 |
I've managed to hit the 100 comment mark, voted on 60% of the entries so far.
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02/14/2012 08:13:57 PM · #38 |
You have rated 405 of 405 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 20 images (5%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5-ish.
i hit the 20 comment mark, may do more
i kinda wish it was called the 2011 Free Study, too. my BEST images last year were all challenge entries, so i combed through non-DPC images for my submission, as opposed to an "outtake" (and there seemed to be a lot of "outtakes" in this challenge)
-m |
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02/14/2012 10:11:01 PM · #39 |
Grog make progress
You have rated 218 of 405 images (54%) in this challenge.
Spiff has commented on 9 of 405 images in this challenge.
Grog has commented on 5 of 405 images in this challunge.
You have given an average score of 6.6193.
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02/14/2012 10:31:22 PM · #40 |
You have rated 402 of 405 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 23 images (6%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.9005. |
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02/14/2012 11:32:59 PM · #41 |
Voting in stages. Will come back to comment after I finish with the voting.
Stats: You have rated 103 of 405 images (25%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.1359. |
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02/14/2012 11:33:36 PM · #42 |
| ive done 31... but thats only 7%!!!! |
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02/14/2012 11:39:07 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by nickyb:
ive done 31... but thats only 7%!!!! |
There are still 9 days left. Plenty of time!! :P |
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02/14/2012 11:55:44 PM · #44 |
I'm just now finding this thread, but...
"You have commented on 113 images (28%) in this challenge."
How could I not? There are fabulous images in this gallery! Go look! |
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02/14/2012 11:56:34 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Grog make progress
You have rated 218 of 405 images (54%) in this challenge.
Spiff has commented on 9 of 405 images in this challenge.
Grog has commented on 5 of 405 images in this challunge.
You have given an average score of 6.6193. |
Grog needs spelling help. I hope he commented on mine. :D
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02/15/2012 07:10:31 AM · #46 |
You have rated 351 of 405 images (87%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 351 of 405 images (87%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8974.
50 or so to go.
the average dropped, but i need to go back and re-score some, i was mainly doing some sorting. |
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02/15/2012 08:17:48 AM · #47 |
DONE!
You have rated 405 of 405 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 405 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8840
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02/15/2012 10:19:45 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
DONE!
You have rated 405 of 405 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 405 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8840 |
Well done Mike! Thx for the comment and the vote!
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02/15/2012 10:22:33 PM · #49 |
You have rated 404 of 404 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 10 images (2%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.1089.
made my preliminary groupings of images. There are a substantial number of images that have advanced on to the next round! I'll be adjusting scores (up) and adding comments over the next few days.
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02/16/2012 06:56:35 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
DONE!
You have rated 405 of 405 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 405 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8840 |
Wow!! That is seriously impressive. Well done, I'm not even close yet...
Tried to vote & comment more tonight, but I have a seriously slow connection tonight (gotta love Telstra!) and it's just too painful... Will try again tomorrow night and see if I can get further along.
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