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05/20/2002 02:19:38 PM · #1 |
I have been having a heck of a time making my photos small enough to submit. I take the photo at 1600x1200 so that I can crop it if necessary, but when I bring it down to the measurements, unless I crop the heck out of it, it rarely fits the size limits. What am I doing wrong? In this games entry I had to crop parts I didn't want to due to it being too big...help. :)
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05/20/2002 02:23:55 PM · #2 |
When you crop, don't worry about the size of the cropped image. After you get the crop you want, do a resample to get to the final size...
Originally posted by cthenk:
I have been having a heck of a time making my photos small enough to submit. I take the photo at 1600x1200 so that I can crop it if necessary, but when I bring it down to the measurements, unless I crop the heck out of it, it rarely fits the size limits. What am I doing wrong? In this games entry I had to crop parts I didn't want to due to it being too big...help. :)
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05/20/2002 02:45:37 PM · #3 |
What he said... to a point. You don't want to crop smaller than 640x480 and then resample to a bigger size. Though I doubt that will be an issue. ;-)
On a slightly more serious note, it would help to know what image editing program you're using in order to give you the best instructions on where to look to do what you need to do.
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05/20/2002 05:15:42 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Patella:
What he said... to a point. You don't want to crop smaller than 640x480 and then resample to a bigger size. Though I doubt that will be an issue. ;-)
On a slightly more serious note, it would help to know what image editing program you're using in order to give you the best instructions on where to look to do what you need to do.
Thanks for the tips, I'm not sure what 'resample' means - could it be called something else? I use Adobe PhotoDelux Home Edit.4.0, I have also used Kodak picture software (don't have kodak anymore, but liked this for some things), I also have Camedia Master 2.0 (came with camera) I'm still learning to not only use my camera but the software too. So, any feed back for using these programs is helpful, or if you know an easier one (not too pricey) I'd be most grateful. I am really loving photography, have never been one to 'read directions first' however, most likely how I got in this mess :) I like to learn as I go, but sometimes it gets me into trouble when I don't learn the baby steps first. Thanks you guys for your time anyway!!
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05/20/2002 06:01:37 PM · #5 |
I personally don't know any of those programs.
I use Adobe Photoshop and PS has a feature it calls "Image Size". It is a box menu where you insert numbers into various fields to manipulate the final image size.
Image size lets you adjust, by specific numbered increments, the size of your finished image without doing any cropping -- but it can stretch or squeeze your image if you're not careful. This is the function that jmsetzler was talking about when he used the term resample -- your sofware may call it something different, but it's most likely resize or resample.
If you do have instructions with any of your software -- or even help files built into the program -- I highly recommend reading them. There's no reason not to try to do things without reading instructions, but they usually are helpful if you can't figure it out yourself. *grin* ...this coming from a technical writer turned photog...
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05/20/2002 06:26:13 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Patella:
I personally don't know any of those programs.
I use Adobe Photoshop and PS has a feature it calls "Image Size". It is a box menu where you insert numbers into various fields to manipulate the final image size.
In Photoshop, the real shortcut is to combine the cropping and resampling into one operation by using the crop tool "option" check-box for fixed size/resolution.
RESIZING involves changing the resolution so that the same number of pixels cover more or less area. No data is lost or created.
RESAMPLING involves creating/merging pixels so that the image is the same physical dimensions, but with more or fewer pixels to cover the area. That's why "resampling up" is so often unsatisfactory: you are creating pixels out of some average of the surrounding pixels.
RESIZE EXAMPLE:
200p @ 100ppi = 2"
200p @ 200ppi = 1"
RESAMPLING EXAMPLE:
200p @ 100ppi = 2"
400p @ 200ppi = 2"
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/20/2002 6:27:26 PM.
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/20/2002 6:30:05 PM. |
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05/20/2002 06:50:27 PM · #7 |
GeneralE,
I know this -- but I didn't think Adobe PhotoDelux Home Edit.4.0 would have the same tool. *grin* I also know the difference between resize and resample. But they both happen under the tool in PS known as image size (with little differentiation mentioned). I figured this was a more likely candidate for cross over between Adobe programs than their beautiful new crop/resample tool and didn't want to confuse the issue.
However, in trying to simplify the ideas, I admittedly blurred lines I probably shouldn't have. Thanks for the making the difference clearer.
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05/20/2002 07:03:44 PM · #8 |
Patella:
Actually, I know you know this stuff -- I meant the examples for cthenk and others who have asked for clarification.
Sorry for the awkward quoting. |
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05/20/2002 07:15:44 PM · #9 |
LOL -- See, we CAN all get along. *grin*
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05/20/2002 07:50:05 PM · #10 |
Well. Funny what you find when you 'look' around. I have Photoshop 5.0 Limited Ed. and I didn't even know it. Have no idea where it came from. Perhaps Christmas has come early, actually, I think it came with my camera now that I think about it. I think the Adobe PhotoDeluxe Home edition was easier to use at first and I just forgot about the other. I'm also trying the Adobe Photoshop Elements for their 30 day trial, so who knows, maybe someday I'll find one I can understand enough to utilize. (hope) :) Appreciate the help, thanks! :)
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