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12/06/2011 06:03:13 AM · #1
Could the new 5D be closer than we think??
Canon 5D Sneak Peek

I'm looking forward to it either way. As much as I still hold true to recommending nothing more than 6MP to family members, I'd happily take 30MP+ on a new 5D.
12/06/2011 06:10:19 AM · #2
There are rumblings on CanonRumors too. A bit disappointing that the autofocus may be a scaled down version of the Canon 7D, but at the same time I can understand the logic since the 7D has that insane frame rate and is geared towards sports etc. Hopefully that will keep the cost from being too astronomical.
12/06/2011 06:31:37 AM · #3
yeah, i saw that today too. I had read a rumor the other day that the MP's were only going to be 18 or 19 like the 1DX.. glad to hear the rumors are now saying otherwise.
12/06/2011 08:05:38 AM · #4
It's fun to watch the rumors, and see who gets what right. At this point, probably some months away from an announcement, all bets are off. It sure will be fun to see what Canon comes with though, and whether it can get me to jump from my now 6+ year old 5D.
12/06/2011 09:25:02 AM · #5
I did not see this. I did not see this. I did not see this.
12/06/2011 10:25:10 AM · #6
I'm pretty happy with my 5D mkII...it would really take something spec-freakin-tacular to make the mkIII a "want".

(Not that I'd turn one away should one of you be feeling particularly generous)
12/06/2011 10:51:37 AM · #7
TA DAAAAA... for the very first time, here is the REAL 5D Mark III

12/06/2011 11:38:41 AM · #8
All I ask is better focusing and more fps.
12/06/2011 12:07:02 PM · #9
Originally posted by signal2noise:

All I ask is better focusing and more fps.


The first one you are likely to get, IMO. There has been *so* much discussion of focus performance on the 'net, and Canon is definitely looking at that kind of feedback. The second one, well, I think if it comes in over 5fps I will be really surprised. I don't think we're in for a big change in that area.
12/06/2011 12:15:30 PM · #10
Originally posted by goinskiing:

I did not see this. I did not see this. I did not see this.

Dude... If you look at a possible 5D3 you going to need a die not a coin.... and probably some new hair to replace what your tearing out over a 5D2 and 7D :-)

Meh... I am out of the full frame market for a while now, so less interested. I think the AF just has to be beefed up and I agree it will prob fall short of the 7D as will the frame rate certainly. It's getting harder for Canon to keep the false walls between their products which is a good thing. I doubt this 5D3 will be the mythical digital version of the EOS3 that a lot of people seem to want.
12/06/2011 12:29:52 PM · #11
I thought I never would be able to say this but...

...if you guys want sharp images from your camera, instead of getting latest most expensive Canons, get a Nikon as far as 10 years back.

people do change, I changed too. Not my fault but maybe my luck to use soft Canons until now.
12/06/2011 12:43:22 PM · #12
Originally posted by robs:

Originally posted by goinskiing:

I did not see this. I did not see this. I did not see this.

Dude... If you look at a possible 5D3 you going to need a die not a coin.... and probably some new hair to replace what your tearing out over a 5D2 and 7D :-)

Meh... I am out of the full frame market for a while now, so less interested. I think the AF just has to be beefed up and I agree it will prob fall short of the 7D as will the frame rate certainly. It's getting harder for Canon to keep the false walls between their products which is a good thing. I doubt this 5D3 will be the mythical digital version of the EOS3 that a lot of people seem to want.


Haha. Now you see what my poor wife has to put up with. No, still willing to wait on the 5D2 and be a tad more patient. I don't think there's going to be enough Delta to even remotely justify the difference in price between the 5D2 and 5D3.
12/06/2011 01:33:52 PM · #13
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

I thought I never would be able to say this but...

...if you guys want sharp images from your camera, instead of getting latest most expensive Canons, get a Nikon as far as 10 years back.

people do change, I changed too. Not my fault but maybe my luck to use soft Canons until now.


Really?? Seriously?? Leo, I have a lot of respect for you, but this is one of the broadest-brush indictments of Canon gear I can imagine. While it's true that some of the older Canon DLSRs, particularly the lower-end ones, had more aggressive AA filters, to say any of them were "soft" (leaving aside miscalibrated units, which affects both Canon and Nikon) is a real stretch.
12/06/2011 01:35:43 PM · #14
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by signal2noise:

All I ask is better focusing and more fps.


The first one you are likely to get, IMO. There has been *so* much discussion of focus performance on the 'net, and Canon is definitely looking at that kind of feedback. The second one, well, I think if it comes in over 5fps I will be really surprised. I don't think we're in for a big change in that area.


Why don't you think it's feasible to wish for more than 5fps? The D700 had 5ps stock with 8fps if you add the grip. To me, it's always been a mythical "why?" of a question for Canon. That and the odd flash sync (not ACTUALLY being 1/200 on many bodies) has struck me as odd things to let go to market. The 5D (mk I and II) are great cameras, but they bring odd issues too. FWIW I was considering a 5d mki when I got my D300, so I don't want to seem like a Canon hater here.
12/06/2011 01:38:30 PM · #15
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Why don't you think it's feasible to wish for more than 5fps?


Because it would compete with the brand-new 1Dx, Canon's new flagship FF professional camera.

R.
12/06/2011 01:39:57 PM · #16
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by signal2noise:

All I ask is better focusing and more fps.


The first one you are likely to get, IMO. There has been *so* much discussion of focus performance on the 'net, and Canon is definitely looking at that kind of feedback. The second one, well, I think if it comes in over 5fps I will be really surprised. I don't think we're in for a big change in that area.


Why don't you think it's feasible to wish for more than 5fps? The D700 had 5ps stock with 8fps if you add the grip. To me, it's always been a mythical "why?" of a question for Canon. That and the odd flash sync (not ACTUALLY being 1/200 on many bodies) has struck me as odd things to let go to market. The 5D (mk I and II) are great cameras, but they bring odd issues too. FWIW I was considering a 5d mki when I got my D300, so I don't want to seem like a Canon hater here.


You can wish for anything.

Shit in one hand, wish in the other. See which fills up first.
12/06/2011 01:42:47 PM · #17
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

I thought I never would be able to say this but...

...if you guys want sharp images from your camera, instead of getting latest most expensive Canons, get a Nikon as far as 10 years back.

people do change, I changed too. Not my fault but maybe my luck to use soft Canons until now.


Really?? Seriously?? Leo, I have a lot of respect for you, but this is one of the broadest-brush indictments of Canon gear I can imagine. While it's true that some of the older Canon DLSRs, particularly the lower-end ones, had more aggressive AA filters, to say any of them were "soft" (leaving aside miscalibrated units, which affects both Canon and Nikon) is a real stretch.


as I said, it probably is my luck. I was a die heart Canon guy until I saw the result of Nikon D200- D300 and D1x believe it or not. I use 5D as well, yes 5D is the best camera I ever seen in Canon line, people here uses 7D also, not as sharp as D300... an that's the fact what I see here. My latest Canon 40D was a very big disappointment, even with an L lens. Most will not see the difference, but if you zoom in a little bit, edges start to get soft, and that kills me in any settings with any lens!
12/06/2011 01:53:07 PM · #18
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Why don't you think it's feasible to wish for more than 5fps?


Because it would compete with the brand-new 1Dx, Canon's new flagship FF professional camera.

R.


Fair, but how does that not follow over into the D700 competing with the D3 at release?
12/06/2011 04:13:28 PM · #19
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

...people here uses 7D also, not as sharp as D300... an that's the fact what I see here. ...Most will not see the difference, but if you zoom in a little bit, edges start to get soft, and that kills me in any settings with any lens!


Let's look at the numbers. The D300 is 12.3Mpx, the 7D is 18Mpx. So we'd expect higher resolution from the 7D sensor. The way resolution is measured is in lp/ph, that is, line pairs per picture height.
The 7D should have about 20.9% greater resolution based on the higher pixel count. Referring to the RAW extinction resolutions published on the DPReview full review for the 7D (which has a direct comparison to the D300s), the 7D resolves 20.3% more, precisely what we'd predict. The difference is somewhat less for the absolute resolutions, reflecting that the 7D does have a little more aggressive AA filter. The fact is, the 7D still puts substantially more information in the frame than the D300, even though it may appear (very) slightly softer when viewed at or above 100%.
12/06/2011 04:26:05 PM · #20
Well, despite all the claims and counter claims on the Canon & Nikon selections, I have owned and used the Nikon D300 and the Nikon D700 with Nikkor lenses.

I now own Canon again and use the 7D and have access to a 600D as well, plus Canon L glass.

All these cameras are more than capable, so the old war need not be resumed. However, given I was Nikon and now I am Canon I can address some claims made here. I have to state that the 7D using a medium priced lens, the 18-135mm kit lens, produces much sharper photos than the D300/D700 using the Nikkor 18-200mm lens. Argue all you want, but unless you are OCD with your camera and results, any of these DSLRs will produce high quality photos.

Perhaps the settings on the Canon range are more aggressive, but none of these cameras mentioned have settings set in stone, so it should possible to match settings and get equal results.
12/14/2011 03:17:25 AM · #21
Originally posted by SteveJ:


All these cameras are more than capable, so the old war need not be resumed. However, given I was Nikon and now I am Canon I can address some claims made here. I have to state that the 7D using a medium priced lens, the 18-135mm kit lens, produces much sharper photos than the D300/D700 using the Nikkor 18-200mm lens. Argue all you want, but unless you are OCD with your camera and results, any of these DSLRs will produce high quality photos.


I think that's very well stated. At the level any DSLR shoots these days, the real quality of photo comes from the shooter and cannot be 'blamed' on the camera.
12/14/2011 03:42:12 AM · #22
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

I thought I never would be able to say this but...

...if you guys want sharp images from your camera, instead of getting latest most expensive Canons, get a Nikon as far as 10 years back.

people do change, I changed too. Not my fault but maybe my luck to use soft Canons until now.


you keep saying this but i dont see any evidence, and i get you feel the need to reassure yourself in your choice but you keep harping on without any evidence (at least that ive seen?)

im not saying one is better than the other, ive had canon since i was 10 hence why i then got an eos5 film and started getting ef lenses and hence why ive stuck with canon, rather than sony^^^^ sorry i mean nikon :) hahaha

//snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II-vs-Nikon_D1X



Message edited by author 2011-12-14 03:45:34.
12/15/2011 02:54:28 AM · #23
Originally posted by SteveJ:

Argue all you want, but unless you are OCD with your camera and results, any of these DSLRs will produce high quality photos.

Any modern DSLR is "good enough", however due to the age of the 7D sensor, it does lag in IQ against all other comers in it's segment.
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