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11/04/2011 10:19:36 AM · #26
Sounds like they will train you to be his sherpa, lol!
11/04/2011 11:08:19 AM · #27
Originally posted by snaffles:

Originally posted by elsapo:

...but the flyer says "no photography background required" and they don't ask to see a portfolio... so what are they looking at to select the people to attend the boot camp?


Uhm to put it bluntly....stupidity? The naive belief that they'll actually end up working for Yuri? Yeah, sure, doing what, keywording for stock sites? Working your way up to lightstand adjuster? Ooh, maybe if you're REALLY good, you actually get to mount up lenses for the great man himself!!!! *swoon*

Think about it.


That's what assistants do...at least at first. My first assisting gig was holding a reflector standing knee deep in the Pacific.

At least whoever it is won't be sitting for hours in pitch black loading film holders.

When I interviewed, often, they'd look at my portfolio last, if at all. They were more interested in if I knew how to hardwire their strobe packs together without blowing things up. In a way, looking at the portfolio was more for my benefit in getting feedback from a seasoned pro.

Message edited by author 2011-11-04 11:11:33.
11/04/2011 11:30:39 AM · #28
Originally posted by Spork99:

... That's what assistants do...at least at first....

It's the same as a geologist's assistant. Usually done after first year university with a senior geologist out in the bush for a summer. The job is to anticipate the needs of the senior and provide for them before he asks.
11/04/2011 01:53:09 PM · #29
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by snaffles:

[quote=elsapo]...but the flyer says "no photography background required" and they don't ask to see a portfolio... so what are they looking at to select the people to attend the boot camp?


That's what assistants do...at least at first. My first assisting gig was holding a reflector standing knee deep in the Pacific.

At least whoever it is won't be sitting for hours in pitch black loading film holders.

When I interviewed, often, they'd look at my portfolio last, if at all. They were more interested in if I knew how to hardwire their strobe packs together without blowing things up. In a way, looking at the portfolio was more for my benefit in getting feedback from a seasoned pro.


See if I was applying to be an assistant then the portfolio thing wouldn't seem weird, but Yuri said they are looking to train a group of 10-15 "elite" photographers, "the best of the best", so how can they choose that with no portfolio? the people with the best resume and a great essay? - and don't get me wrong I would love to be an assistant to Yuri with most of my expenses paid for, traveling to different countries, but I just can't get myself to book a last minute flight to South Africa, draining all my savings for something that sounds too good to be true... hahaha maybe that's my problem, I need to take more chances :p
11/04/2011 01:54:50 PM · #30
Originally posted by elsapo:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by snaffles:

[quote=elsapo]...but the flyer says "no photography background required" and they don't ask to see a portfolio... so what are they looking at to select the people to attend the boot camp?


That's what assistants do...at least at first. My first assisting gig was holding a reflector standing knee deep in the Pacific.

At least whoever it is won't be sitting for hours in pitch black loading film holders.

When I interviewed, often, they'd look at my portfolio last, if at all. They were more interested in if I knew how to hardwire their strobe packs together without blowing things up. In a way, looking at the portfolio was more for my benefit in getting feedback from a seasoned pro.


See if I was applying to be an assistant then the portfolio thing wouldn't seem weird, but Yuri said they are looking to train a group of 10-15 "elite" photographers, "the best of the best", so how can they choose that with no portfolio? the people with the best resume and a great essay? - and don't get me wrong I would love to be an assistant to Yuri with most of my expenses paid for, traveling to different countries, but I just can't get myself to book a last minute flight to South Africa, draining all my savings for something that sounds too good to be true... hahaha maybe that's my problem, I need to take more chances :p

Only gamble what you can afford to lose. ;-)
11/04/2011 01:58:39 PM · #31
Originally posted by elsapo:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by snaffles:

[quote=elsapo]...but the flyer says "no photography background required" and they don't ask to see a portfolio... so what are they looking at to select the people to attend the boot camp?


That's what assistants do...at least at first. My first assisting gig was holding a reflector standing knee deep in the Pacific.

At least whoever it is won't be sitting for hours in pitch black loading film holders.

When I interviewed, often, they'd look at my portfolio last, if at all. They were more interested in if I knew how to hardwire their strobe packs together without blowing things up. In a way, looking at the portfolio was more for my benefit in getting feedback from a seasoned pro.


See if I was applying to be an assistant then the portfolio thing wouldn't seem weird, but Yuri said they are looking to train a group of 10-15 "elite" photographers, "the best of the best", so how can they choose that with no portfolio? the people with the best resume and a great essay? - and don't get me wrong I would love to be an assistant to Yuri with most of my expenses paid for, traveling to different countries, but I just can't get myself to book a last minute flight to South Africa, draining all my savings for something that sounds too good to be true... hahaha maybe that's my problem, I need to take more chances :p


The goal of every assistant is to be an "elite photographer", but you have to start as the bag-toting, coffee-getting, errand-running bitch.
11/04/2011 02:41:32 PM · #32
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by elsapo:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by snaffles:

[quote=elsapo]...but the flyer says "no photography background required" and they don't ask to see a portfolio... so what are they looking at to select the people to attend the boot camp?


That's what assistants do...at least at first. My first assisting gig was holding a reflector standing knee deep in the Pacific.

At least whoever it is won't be sitting for hours in pitch black loading film holders.

When I interviewed, often, they'd look at my portfolio last, if at all. They were more interested in if I knew how to hardwire their strobe packs together without blowing things up. In a way, looking at the portfolio was more for my benefit in getting feedback from a seasoned pro.


See if I was applying to be an assistant then the portfolio thing wouldn't seem weird, but Yuri said they are looking to train a group of 10-15 "elite" photographers, "the best of the best", so how can they choose that with no portfolio? the people with the best resume and a great essay? - and don't get me wrong I would love to be an assistant to Yuri with most of my expenses paid for, traveling to different countries, but I just can't get myself to book a last minute flight to South Africa, draining all my savings for something that sounds too good to be true... hahaha maybe that's my problem, I need to take more chances :p


The goal of every assistant is to be an "elite photographer", but you have to start as the bag-toting, coffee-getting, errand-running bitch.

Tiger Woods recently fired his caddie.
11/04/2011 02:53:05 PM · #33
Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Tiger Woods recently fired his caddie.


Carrying Tiger's bags have earned him about 9 million in the last ten years, carrying Yuri's? Slightly less.
11/04/2011 02:57:34 PM · #34
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:


Tiger Woods recently fired his caddie.

Carrying Tiger's bags have earned him about 9 million in the last ten years, carrying Yuri's? Slightly less.

Snap! :-D
11/05/2011 02:02:10 AM · #35
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by elsapo:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by snaffles:

[quote=elsapo]...but the flyer says "no photography background required" and they don't ask to see a portfolio... so what are they looking at to select the people to attend the boot camp?


That's what assistants do...at least at first. My first assisting gig was holding a reflector standing knee deep in the Pacific.

At least whoever it is won't be sitting for hours in pitch black loading film holders.

When I interviewed, often, they'd look at my portfolio last, if at all. They were more interested in if I knew how to hardwire their strobe packs together without blowing things up. In a way, looking at the portfolio was more for my benefit in getting feedback from a seasoned pro.


See if I was applying to be an assistant then the portfolio thing wouldn't seem weird, but Yuri said they are looking to train a group of 10-15 "elite" photographers, "the best of the best", so how can they choose that with no portfolio? the people with the best resume and a great essay? - and don't get me wrong I would love to be an assistant to Yuri with most of my expenses paid for, traveling to different countries, but I just can't get myself to book a last minute flight to South Africa, draining all my savings for something that sounds too good to be true... hahaha maybe that's my problem, I need to take more chances :p


The goal of every assistant is to be an "elite photographer", but you have to start as the bag-toting, coffee-getting, errand-running bitch.


From what I've gathered, it's not really going to be like an assistant. The people who make it into the program will actually be doing shoots. I expect that even though everyone is welcome, people who aren't complete noobs will make up the final 10-15. That said, most photography schools don't ask for portfolios anymore and will train anyone willing to pay the tuition and do the required work. I've seen the work of the people who come out of those schools and you'd never know that they started three years earlier with just a P'n'S.

On a semi-related topic, I still don't understand the reasoning of "starting at the bottom." That'd be like telling a doctor that if they ever want to make it in their profession, they have to go work at the local drug store selling band-aids. If you want to be a photographer, shouldn't you, like, take photos or at least go to school to learn how to take photos?
11/05/2011 02:10:38 AM · #36
Originally posted by geinafets:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by elsapo:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by snaffles:

[quote=elsapo]...but the flyer says "no photography background required" and they don't ask to see a portfolio... so what are they looking at to select the people to attend the boot camp?


That's what assistants do...at least at first. My first assisting gig was holding a reflector standing knee deep in the Pacific.

At least whoever it is won't be sitting for hours in pitch black loading film holders.

When I interviewed, often, they'd look at my portfolio last, if at all. They were more interested in if I knew how to hardwire their strobe packs together without blowing things up. In a way, looking at the portfolio was more for my benefit in getting feedback from a seasoned pro.


See if I was applying to be an assistant then the portfolio thing wouldn't seem weird, but Yuri said they are looking to train a group of 10-15 "elite" photographers, "the best of the best", so how can they choose that with no portfolio? the people with the best resume and a great essay? - and don't get me wrong I would love to be an assistant to Yuri with most of my expenses paid for, traveling to different countries, but I just can't get myself to book a last minute flight to South Africa, draining all my savings for something that sounds too good to be true... hahaha maybe that's my problem, I need to take more chances :p


The goal of every assistant is to be an "elite photographer", but you have to start as the bag-toting, coffee-getting, errand-running bitch.


From what I've gathered, it's not really going to be like an assistant. The people who make it into the program will actually be doing shoots. I expect that even though everyone is welcome, people who aren't complete noobs will make up the final 10-15. That said, most photography schools don't ask for portfolios anymore and will train anyone willing to pay the tuition and do the required work. I've seen the work of the people who come out of those schools and you'd never know that they started three years earlier with just a P'n'S.

On a semi-related topic, I still don't understand the reasoning of "starting at the bottom." That'd be like telling a doctor that if they ever want to make it in their profession, they have to go work at the local drug store selling band-aids. If you want to be a photographer, shouldn't you, like, take photos or at least go to school to learn how to take photos?


No, but Doctors need an undergrad degree with certain pre-requisites and usually some kind of volunteer work or other experience in the health profession. Then, they have to go through residency where they are worked over hard for a few years. They pretty much start at the bottom.

11/16/2011 06:54:03 AM · #37
The whole aim of this program is to train photographers for the company. Yuri is investing in these people, why would he spend three years training them and then wave goodbye to the time and resources invested in that? The reason no photography experience is needed is because this is an education. People who have already studied photography do not need to study it again. Yuri is looking to give people who have not been able to pay for their own educations a chance to learn all their is to know. People are being selected firstly on their motivation, how badly do they want this and secondly on their eye for photography, which will be determined in the bootcamp. Obviously people with skills will do better in the bootcamp but this also gives people who have natural talent or who are self taught the opportunity to apply.

During the training, no one will be doing assistant jobs, they will be doing actual photo shoots, the only way we believe in learning is through practical experience.

You can email me at jobs@arcurs.com or arcurs.productions@gmail.com if you have questions
12/09/2011 01:17:27 PM · #38
I just got my confirmation letter saying that I got into the bootcamp!! Did anyone else get in? If so, does anyone want to share a hotel?
12/09/2011 02:41:26 PM · #39
Originally posted by geinafets:

I just got my confirmation letter saying that I got into the bootcamp!! Did anyone else get in? If so, does anyone want to share a hotel?


Wow. Congratulations. It is a two week boot camp to determine if you get in the three year program?
12/09/2011 03:05:20 PM · #40
Originally posted by markwiley:

Originally posted by geinafets:

I just got my confirmation letter saying that I got into the bootcamp!! Did anyone else get in? If so, does anyone want to share a hotel?


Wow. Congratulations. It is a two week boot camp to determine if you get in the three year program?


Thank you! I'm totally chuffed! : )
And yes, the bootcamp will determine the 15 people who make it into the 3-year program. About 100 people made it in to the bootcamp. They expected about 1,000 to apply, but didn't say how many actually did. I *really* hope I make it into the 3-year program.

Message edited by author 2011-12-09 15:05:44.
12/09/2011 03:18:35 PM · #41
Originally posted by geinafets:

I just got my confirmation letter saying that I got into the bootcamp!! Did anyone else get in? If so, does anyone want to share a hotel?


Wow! Congrats!

R.
12/09/2011 06:09:30 PM · #42
dupe post, I don't know what the heck I did

Message edited by author 2011-12-09 18:10:59.
12/09/2011 06:10:14 PM · #43
Originally posted by geinafets:

I just got my confirmation letter saying that I got into the bootcamp!! Did anyone else get in? If so, does anyone want to share a hotel?


Fantastic! Despite all of the pessimists that posted in this thread, I'm glad that I started it and that it worked out for somebody here.

Keep us posted, please.

Message edited by author 2011-12-09 18:11:48.
12/09/2011 06:17:41 PM · #44
Originally posted by yakatme:

Originally posted by geinafets:

I just got my confirmation letter saying that I got into the bootcamp!! Did anyone else get in? If so, does anyone want to share a hotel?


Fantastic! Despite all of the pessimists that posted in this thread, I'm glad that I started it and that it worked out for somebody here.

Keep us posted, please.


Thank you SO MUCH for starting this thread. Without it, I never would have heard of the program at all. This program is just too perfect for me, so it would really be a dream come true if I made it to the final part. I'll definitely keep you all updated : )
12/09/2011 06:43:45 PM · #45
Originally posted by geinafets:

I just got my confirmation letter saying that I got into the bootcamp!! Did anyone else get in? If so, does anyone want to share a hotel?

I wish I could share a hotel with you, Stephanie, never mind the bootcamp

JUST KIDDING! Congrats, I wish you good luck and success!
12/09/2011 08:01:08 PM · #46
Wow Stephanie, glad you got into it - and seeing that you're already a globetrotter you should have a lot of fun! Do tell us all about it! (Or at least as much as possible ;-)
12/09/2011 10:58:19 PM · #47
Thanks for the support, guys!

First update: tickets booked! : )
12/30/2011 12:25:38 AM · #48
I feel like I just booked my tickets a few days ago.
I'm heading to the airport in 9 short hours. I'll land in South Africa before the year is out!
12/30/2011 12:35:55 AM · #49
Originally posted by geinafets:

I feel like I just booked my tickets a few days ago.
I'm heading to the airport in 9 short hours. I'll land in South Africa before the year is out!


Woo Hoo! Show the colors for DPC!

R.
01/04/2012 04:45:59 AM · #50
I'm in the middle of Day Two of the bootcamp, and things are going very well. Day One was a review of shutter speed, aperture, ISO, and camera features, so it was a very easy day. I'll update more later!
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