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10/07/2011 10:26:41 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by Sheryll:
I just watched a movie last night called "The Pirates of Silicon Valley" It was about Steve Jobs and Bill Gates rise to success. Depending on how true to life the movie was, Steve was actually a very mean guy in the beginning. He denied that Lisa was his daughter until after he got fired from Apple by the CEO he put in place. He also gained much of his success (initially) from "stealing" (they actually gave it away) quite a bit of stuff from Xerox. Then Bill Gates stole it from him for microsoft and ultimately IIBM. During his time away from Apple he sort of "grew up" and when he went back to Apple in 1994 he was a different man and turned apple around to what it is today. |
Not entirely factual. As someone who worked for Xerox and worked with and for some of the people on the PARC team later in their careers I'll say a couple of things here.
Urban legend...and Apple loves to have their fans think...and regurgitate the myth that Microsoft stole the idea of the GUI and a windows/icon based desktop from Apple. The truth is Xerox developed all of it first. Apple and Microsoft BOTH came to Xerox to meet with Xerox engineers and project managers. The deal Xerox had with Apple was for representatives of both companies to meet and allow Apple to discuss the engineering aspects of the Xerox Alto and Xerox Star workstations. In exchange for this meeting Apple was to give Xerox stock shares in their company along with some other monetary compensation. It was in effect a consultation agreement, and NOT a licensing agreement which would have allowed Apple to use Xerox technology. Xerox never gave Apple the rights to copy or use their technology outright despite common belief. Xerox sued Apple for copyright infringement during the same time period that Apple was suing Microsoft over their version of the Windows based GUI. The Xerox lawsuit against Apple was dismissed due to the statute of limitations. Xerox waited to long to file the lawsuit of copyright infringement.
On the other side of the coin. Microsoft did honor their agreements with Xerox and they DID license copyrighted ideas and technology from them. So Microsoft NEVER stole the GUI from Apple, but Apple did develop their desktop using ideas obtained from Xerox without their permission.
Dave
Message edited by author 2011-10-07 10:29:31. |
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10/07/2011 12:49:13 PM · #77 |
He'll never get an iPhone 5...bummer.
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10/07/2011 02:00:33 PM · #78 |
Apple did figure out how to make Xerox's $1000 prototype mouse for about $20, making it practical for widespread distribution.
Almost everything Apple has done has been based on the original tech research of others -- their genius has been in packaging it attractively in a way which was reliable extremely easy to use out of the box. |
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10/07/2011 06:27:04 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Apple did figure out how to make Xerox's $1000 prototype mouse for about $20, making it practical for widespread distribution. |
That said, the military still uses the $1k version. |
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10/07/2011 06:36:46 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I think I'm only reacting to my facebook wall which looks like Ghandi or Pope John Paul died... |
At least Jobs made a positive contribution to society. Unlike Pope John Paul. |
Yup, he managed to get stinking rich from fusing a sony walkman with a telephone. In other news, more soldiers die in Afghanistan, no one remembers their name. |
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10/07/2011 06:46:47 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Apple did figure out how to make Xerox's $1000 prototype mouse for about $20, making it practical for widespread distribution. |
Not a hard feat to accomplish when all the money, material and time poured into R&D was already done by someone else. A schematic, a few parts at Radio Shack and a soldering iron would be all Apple needed at that point. That $20 Apple mouse probably included a heck of a mark up and profit at that point. |
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10/07/2011 08:23:13 PM · #82 |
Humorous quote from a Los Angeles Times article that was at the top of Google News today.
"Not only did [Apple] introduce actually innovative products," Dan Gillmor, a longtime Silicon Valley reporter, said via email, "but it had the uncanny ability to get normally skeptical journalists to sit up and beg like a bunch of pet beagles."
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10/07/2011 08:59:29 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I think I'm only reacting to my facebook wall which looks like Ghandi or Pope John Paul died... |
At least Jobs made a positive contribution to society. Unlike Pope John Paul. |
Anyone who knows me is fully aware that I would probably be the last person to come to the defence of the church, (any church)... but I do find your comment both inaccurate and out-of-line.
Mr. Jobs made a series of highly successful commercial products, and that Sir is not to be confused with making a contribution to society.
When thinking of "Contributions made to society", people like Ghandi and Mother Teresa come to mind.
Just another man's view.
Ray
Message edited by author 2011-10-07 20:59:41. |
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10/07/2011 10:11:42 PM · #84 |
I saw 2 quotes that I thought were great - sorry don't know who to give credit as there are 3.2 billion tweets in my twitter feed....
- 10 years ago we had Bob Hope, Steve Jobs and Johnny Cash.... Now we have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash :-)
- Three apples that changed the world - The one Eve ate, The one that fell on Newtons head and the one that Jobs built. |
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