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05/20/2002 10:27:33 AM · #1 |
Deleted.. I will discuss this later... I think Drew is right...
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/20/2002 10:46:09 AM.
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05/20/2002 10:41:55 AM · #2 |
Just a reminder to be careful in replying to this one, as the photo is still in the running and votes could be swayed heavily by this conversation.
I personally think out of focus elements in the foreground are great when pulled off right.
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05/20/2002 10:45:38 AM · #3 |
Here comes another one of those "rules" we love to hate. It's generally considered a negative to have OOF elements in the foreground, as the eye is drawn to them more than background elements. In some circumstances this can be used to advantage. I think the "Salt that Stings" shot in the advertising challenge is a good example. The needles in the foreground are slightly ahead of the field of focus, and, to my eye, seem to protrude from the image. The Star Wars Legos shot had OOF foreground elements that distracted a lot of people, but I found that they did give it a very cinematic look. So, my answer is that OOF foreground stuff is to be avoided unless you're including it for a reason. For DPChallenge, the reason had better be obvious. Something like, "Double Word Score - Foreground Intentionally Soft to Make You Feel Like the Board is About to Pierce Your Cornea" ought to do the trick, but then my 'longest title' title would be lost.
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05/20/2002 10:46:23 AM · #4 |
Hard to say jm...
The TYPICAL train of thought is that the macro subject should be the foreground if you have limited depth of field.
HOWEVER, as we all know there are exceptions to the rule IF the shot demands a different approach.
Last week the glasses/concerto piece got a few lower marks from folks becasue his focus was on the foreground rather than what some thought was the center focus..the lens of the glass.
I liked the foreground focus on that shot better (my taste) and marked that photo highly.
I think the shot you are referring to this week could have benefitted from a better foreground focus but some will disagree I am sure. :-) Still, If I thought a shot was a 9 and had a few quirks I probably would still go with a 8.
What you have to remember sometimes is just how much control over a shot does a photographer have?
If a photographer has ABSOLUTE control like a set-up shot does...then you have every right to be as harsh as you want. The photographer could have cleared that up.
Grab shots that have a tech flaw here or there but represent very a difficult shot to even get in the first place should have a small amount of technical wiggle room that set-up shots should not get.
I will say one thing. If I do a set up shot (and all three of my judged shots were sorta set-ups except maybe the outdoor one where light and misc inertference was out of control to a degree) I deserved every criticism in the world. No art director would ever accept anything less than perfection on studio set-ups.
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