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 06/19/2011 08:46:51 PM · #1
Has anyone ever heard of Dr Burzynski?

Basically, he invented a cure for cancer in 1976 (I know, I was skeptical as well, and I'm a hard-core skeptic most of the time)

But the FDA spent the guts of 20 years trying to put him out of business or throw him in prison.

Anyway, you can make your own mind up. They've put the documentary online for a few days;

//vimeo.com/24821365

Message edited by author 2011-06-19 20:47:24.
 06/20/2011 08:13:33 AM · #2
No I've never heard of him. I have to be honest and say that I stayed up until 12:20 last night to see the whole thing. Def. makes you think about what happened and what could be with regards to Cancer treatment, or for that matter if it happens with any other disease research.

Matt
 06/20/2011 02:42:00 PM · #3
I've long been a proponent of the idea that diseases won't be cured because there is far too much money in treatements. I always get countered with the, "but can you imagine how much they would make on a cure?!" Yes, a lot. Short term.

However, in the long terms, cures aren't good for any company that makes billions of dollars a year selling us drugs and procedures.

This is one conspiracy theory that I think has a real chance of being perfectly true.
 06/20/2011 02:54:51 PM · #4
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I've long been a proponent of the idea that diseases won't be cured because there is far too much money in treatements. I always get countered with the, "but can you imagine how much they would make on a cure?!" Yes, a lot. Short term.

However, in the long terms, cures aren't good for any company that makes billions of dollars a year selling us drugs and procedures.

This is one conspiracy theory that I think has a real chance of being perfectly true.


Unfortunately... I think this at times but I don't want it to be true therefore I don't like to think that someday someone will have a cure and it will be used. But until that day comes... It is a serious thing, cancer... :/
 06/20/2011 08:55:07 PM · #5
So in essence, every oncologist in the world is in a grand conspiracy to watch children die gruesome deaths from cancer, because a cure would cost them business?

If so, then there is no point in reading this Houston Press article on the good doctor, from 2008.

Link to article.
 06/20/2011 09:22:26 PM · #6
Originally posted by ambaker:
So in essence, every oncologist in the world is in a grand conspiracy to watch children die gruesome deaths from cancer, because a cure would cost them business?

If so, then there is no point in reading this Houston Press article on the good doctor, from 2008.

Link to article.

*didn't read the article - I'll read it later.

On the subject of conspiracy - I believe it (and many other things in our society) are the way they are partly because of conspiracy or controlling self-interests, along with ignorance, closed mindedness, pride and their own self interest on the part of the medical community. This is demonstrated when alternative medicine shows results that fly in the face of the mainstream medical opinions or "science" and doctors either ignore it, dismiss it, or throw their hands up and say it's some sort of fluke.

We, as consumers are programmed to think that so many things like cancer treatments, medicine, drug therapy, etc, are necessarily costly,complex and dangerous and that doctors MUST know what they are doing or they wouldn't be doctors. This just isn't the case with a good many issues. ...or a good many doctors.

Back on the subject of conspiracy about cancer, there are all kinds of things written about it and many are very compelling. One thing that stands out though is a comparison of all the advancements and achievements we have made on so many technical and medical fronts and how much money has been spent on cancer research and they have not been able to find a cure for it. Just makes ya wonder.

That said, I still don't have a jet car.

I do love that the internet provides the means for information to flow that we would NEVER get otherwise. Obviously everyone needs to be responsible to read all sides of the issue and make up their own minds about what they read.
 06/20/2011 11:58:08 PM · #7
What were those idiots who cured or came up with cheap long lasting vaccines to eradicate Polio, Scarlet Fever, Chicken Pox, Tetanus, Diphtheria, Hib disease, Measles, Pertussis, Pneumococcal Disease, Typhoid Fever thinking? Did they not get the memo about cashing in by keeping their patients sick? Come to think of it we don't have much Malaria, Leprosy, Typhoid, Yellow Fever or Hemorrhagic fever anymore, at least in the rich countries where doctors stand to make the big bucks off them.

Well hopefully those who know how the medical community are out to rip them off and hide the truth from them will continue to stop vaccinating their children (which causes autism) and we can give the doctors a shot at making back the money they have lost. Tuberculosis anyone?

There are currently 17 FDA sanctioned trails Dr. Burzynski is leading using his antineoplastons, none have ever been opened to peer review.

Message edited by author 2011-06-21 00:17:54.
 06/21/2011 12:06:01 AM · #8
I got a weird vibe from watching this. Something just seems off, like I was watching an infomercial mixed with a documentary.
 06/21/2011 02:16:05 AM · #9
As a cancer survivor, I can say I am shocked I've never heard of this Dr, and not surprised at the dvd. I sat up and watched the whole dvd then read the article published in the Huston news. Although the dvd is published by Burzynski's people, I tend to believe it more than the news article. In dealing with Insurance companies who tell you what you can and can not do about your disease I firmly believe the end of the story is it's all about the $$$. My Aunt died of cancer BECAUSE she lost her job and her insurance and when her cancer came back, she did not have the money to PAY for medical treatment! We had the same cancer, me, her daughter both had insurance we are both alive! Now I am (at this time) uninsurable for cancer unless I am in a group plan at a company. For some reason they have to insure me but private ins will not.

One thing that really struck me is one of the cancer paitent's was a young girl from Springfield MO, which is 15 mins from me. I've already googled her and Mom n Dad and got adress' I won't be stopping investigateing this entire thing! I want to know MORE

Any how Thanks JH for finding this, it def merrits much closer investigation!
 06/21/2011 02:35:08 AM · #10
After watching the entire dvd, and reading the entire article, I'm not sure what to make of this. It seems that the surviving patients need to be interviewed thoroughly, along with relatives of patients who didn't make it (although he doesn't claim that he can cure everyone). If success rates were even just the same as those for radiation and chemo then it would surely be preferable to the torture of those regimens? On the other hand it's entirely possible that he is rather wanting to be a persecuted hero.
Whatever, Hollywood should be all over this. Could Robin Williams do a Polish accent?
 06/21/2011 02:54:43 AM · #11
As long as you are keen on Antineoplastons, this supressed cure for cancer, you might want to cover your bases and check out some other miracle cures that are also being repressed.

CanCell—originally called Entelev and recently renamed Cantron and Protocel,Cell Specific Cancer Therapy (also called Zoetron Therapy), 714X, Hulda Clark's "Cure for All Cancers",Essiac (an herbal remedy),Fresh Cell Therapy, The Gerson Method, Dr. Hariton-Tzannis Alivizatos' Greek cancer cure, Macrobiotics, Psychic Surgery, Shark Cartilage, The Hoxsey Treatment, Revici Cancer Control, Pau d'arco tea, Hydrazine Sulfate, Metabolic Therapy, "Hyperoxygenation" Therapies, Immuno-augmentative Therapy, Iscador, Kelley/Gonzalez Metabolic Therapy, Vitamin C, Livingston-Wheeler Regimen, and my personal favorite, Laetrile. There are about another one hundred cures listed over at Quackwatch.

These are all supressed cancer cures, many of them with better track records than Dr. Burzynski's cure, and cheaper than the 30k to 60K per year he charges for his cure. I don't doubt he belives he is right, as do all the folks who make above cures available for sale to desperate people.

Message edited by author 2011-06-21 03:14:14.
 06/21/2011 08:35:18 AM · #12
There is no cure for cancer. Cancer kills. Period.

A positive mind will prevent the cancer from taking your mind to win the body quickly. It will not take my mind, I am living a full life every day. I am not thinking I have a mere 7 months to live. I think what will I do today. I am a problem for cancer, not a cure. I will be positive until death comes and look for me. Who cares when, we are all walking the road to dust.

I experience my miracles day after day. I am not waiting for it to happen, I make it happen. I just do not believe in quacks and their so called miracles.

Maybe in the future, many blue moons from now, nano technology may be the answer. For now, let it be known, cancer kills.
 06/21/2011 12:45:48 PM · #13
Originally posted by jomari:
After watching the entire dvd, and reading the entire article, I'm not sure what to make of this. It seems that the surviving patients need to be interviewed thoroughly, along with relatives of patients who didn't make it (although he doesn't claim that he can cure everyone). If success rates were even just the same as those for radiation and chemo then it would surely be preferable to the torture of those regimens? On the other hand it's entirely possible that he is rather wanting to be a persecuted hero.
Whatever, Hollywood should be all over this. Could Robin Williams do a Polish accent?


Im not sure if he can do a Polish accent, but I know he can do a Scottish one pretty well.

Golf.
 06/21/2011 01:00:44 PM · #14
Big Tobacco would fund a cure for cancer.... <--- Conspiracy debunked by Slippy.

You're welcome.
 06/21/2011 10:36:40 PM · #15
Originally posted by mgarsteck:
Originally posted by jomari:
After watching the entire dvd, and reading the entire article, I'm not sure what to make of this. It seems that the surviving patients need to be interviewed thoroughly, along with relatives of patients who didn't make it (although he doesn't claim that he can cure everyone). If success rates were even just the same as those for radiation and chemo then it would surely be preferable to the torture of those regimens? On the other hand it's entirely possible that he is rather wanting to be a persecuted hero.
Whatever, Hollywood should be all over this. Could Robin Williams do a Polish accent?


Im not sure if he can do a Polish accent, but I know he can do a Scottish one pretty well.

Golf.


Thanks for the laugh!
 06/21/2011 11:28:24 PM · #16
Originally posted by jomari:
Could Robin Williams do a Polish accent?


The answer is no. He played a Warsaw Jew during Nazi occupation in Jacob the liar .Nothing like a manic comic touch in a Holocaust movie. And the accent wiggles around like a caterpillar mustache.
 06/22/2011 05:40:00 AM · #17
Godwin's law in 16 posts. I'm impressed!
 06/22/2011 01:38:44 PM · #18
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by jomari:
Could Robin Williams do a Polish accent?


The answer is no. He played a Warsaw Jew during Nazi occupation in Jacob the liar .Nothing like a manic comic touch in a Holocaust movie. And the accent wiggles around like a caterpillar mustache.


They poke fun at Robin Williams' inability to hold an accent for very long in "Death to Smoochy".
 06/22/2011 02:49:14 PM · #19
stop whining please

Message edited by author 2011-06-22 14:49:59.
 06/22/2011 06:07:06 PM · #20
I believe Godwin's law requires a comparison of ideology or behavior to the Nazi's rather than the mere use of the word.

"You hunters are all inglorious Nazi bastards!" Godwin's law applies

"I rather enjoyed 'Inglorious basterds' Tarantino's Nazi hunter movie" Godwin's law does not.
 06/23/2011 02:36:23 AM · #21
We definitely haven't invoked Godwin's Law (yet).
 06/23/2011 02:54:11 AM · #22
forget it.

Message edited by author 2011-06-23 03:02:40.
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