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05/18/2002 03:44:06 PM · #51 |
all interesting and relevent points.
the only problem, though, with this discussion is that there aren't any heavy film people here to strongly make the other case. it bein' DP challenge and all .. : P |
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05/18/2002 03:49:42 PM · #52 |
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/18/2002 3:50:37 PM. |
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05/18/2002 08:29:00 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by irae: Originally posted by jmsetzler: [i]With a film camera, the framing and composition must be done completely with the camera.
Um... no way. The resolution advantage that film offers makes cropping much easier with film, at least when making enlargements off the negative. With digital you lose detail pretty quickly when you start to crop, but you can take a pretty small portion of a 35mm neg and make a very good large print. If you're shooting slides or chromes you're stuck with framing and composing in camera, but that's a pretty tiny fraction of total film exposures.
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I still shott alog of chrome and I have no problem cropping it. I do have one big advantage though I get to use the printer at work (Fuji Frontier) which will allow me to "free" crop any image put into it by any media, I also still have all the color and density adjustments at my fingertips. The only thing whis is a little annoying with digital is the whole double exposure thing, don't like haveing to put it together in photoshop. |
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05/18/2002 08:54:46 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by irae: Originally posted by jmsetzler: [i]With a film camera, the framing and composition must be done completely with the camera.
Um... no way. The resolution advantage that film offers makes cropping much easier with film, at least when making enlargements off the negative. With digital you lose detail pretty quickly when you start to crop, but you can take a pretty small portion of a 35mm neg and make a very good large print. If you're shooting slides or chromes you're stuck with framing and composing in camera, but that's a pretty tiny fraction of total film exposures.
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I agree with you irae.....while I like digital photography.....I will always LOVE the control you have with film. I've had limited experience with film photography, but I still remember that when I spent 5 hours in the dark room....it never seemed like that long. And you feel as if you've accomplished art when you're done...I did a lot of special effects in a course I took--blue tinting, polaroid transfers, hand-tinted sepia-toned prints...infrared film shots and I know you can get the same effects for some of it in PhotoShop, but creating it with your hands and watching the creation come to life is so much more satisfying for me. |
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05/18/2002 08:56:46 PM · #55 |
Side note here and back to the original thread, I had someone notice someting in my picture and it gave away the city that the picture was taken in, becaues of that the person assumed that I was the only perosn on this site from a city of around 5 million people, and said that they would be uncomfortable with voting my picture higher since they thought they knew who took it. How STUPID is that? |
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05/18/2002 09:47:49 PM · #56 |
I'm not talking about processing your own film... I had no idea that everyone here that shoots 35mm processes their own film...
Originally posted by irae: Originally posted by jmsetzler: [i]With a film camera, the framing and composition must be done completely with the camera.
Um... no way. The resolution advantage that film offers makes cropping much easier with film, at least when making enlargements off the negative. With digital you lose detail pretty quickly when you start to crop, but you can take a pretty small portion of a 35mm neg and make a very good large print. If you're shooting slides or chromes you're stuck with framing and composing in camera, but that's a pretty tiny fraction of total film exposures.
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05/18/2002 10:23:37 PM · #57 |
So, KD, basically your answer to the original question is that you prefer film over digital? it feels more like 'real art' somehow? That viewpoint would definitely help validate the opinion of my afore-mentioned friend.
Originally posted by magnetic9999: one of my best friends is a successful film photographer, here in DC. she's spent years honing her craft, learning her darkroom skills, and building her reputation for quality.
she thinks that the digital camera craze is just another part of the 'mcdonald's instant gratification' culture.
do we, as digital camera-terians, agree? Discuss.
Originally posted by KDJohnson: .... creating it with your hands and watching the creation come to life is so much more satisfying for me.
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