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05/31/2011 06:35:26 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
*snip* ...we are at less than half of the paid membership of just three years ago. |
Then, why can't I win a damn ribbon!! And no...I haven't looked at ALL of the tutorials yet. How many members are even contributing tutorials these days? (I am neither qualified nor knowledgable.)
:~D to ensure the comedic value was not lost!
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05/31/2011 08:40:25 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by SDW:
From what the data tells me there's not a problem with the scores. Voters are still voting consistent. But it is hard to deny that there is a problem with entries, votes, and comments.
Something needs to be done to excite people to enter, vote, and comment.
First suggestion (just a thought).
1. With the current level of entries limit the amount of entries per challenge to 100.
This would make voting 100% of the challenge without getting burnt out.
2. Have an criteria you have to meet to be able to enter a challenge. Such as x-# of votes/comments to enter the next challenge.
3. Have a criteria you must meet to be able to enter the monthly free studies. Maybe base it on your participation in weekly challenges (entries, votes, and comments).
Just some ideas. Some maybe good and others bad. I am one of the ones that has lost enthusiasm over the last year or two. So I'm talking about myself. Sorry! |
Scott... once again, you've excelled with some great stats here, sparking an interesting discussion.
I'm somewhat surprised that nobody has responded to these suggestions of yours. Personally, my participation has dropped of recently b/c of work and family... I'm just not finding the time to shoot, vote on ALL challenges, and comment. That said, when I find the time, I still do, HOWEVER, I think you're suggestions would make it more difficult/onerous to contribute to DPC, and may drive more people away rather than encouraging participation. |
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05/31/2011 09:36:15 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... when they do get here they see pages full of bitching about how this site -- once "so great when I got here," now isn't because it's the same as it ever was ... |
Don't forget to mention all the admins bitching about the bitching. ;-) |
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05/31/2011 09:39:27 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... when they do get here they see pages full of bitching about how this site -- once "so great when I got here," now isn't because it's the same as it ever was ... |
Don't forget to mention all the admins bitching about the bitching. ;-) |
If we bitched about the bitching about the admins as much as those who bitch about the admins bitch we'd never have time to DQ any photos ... |
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05/31/2011 09:41:02 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... when they do get here they see pages full of bitching about how this site -- once "so great when I got here," now isn't because it's the same as it ever was ... |
Don't forget to mention all the admins bitching about the bitching. ;-) |
If we bitched about the bitching about the admins as much as those who bitch about the admins bitch we'd never have time to DQ any photos ... |
Whoa...
Okay.
Seems like the last time I checked in here, there were some cool stats. How did we come to this?!
Message edited by author 2011-05-31 21:41:43. |
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05/31/2011 10:05:13 PM · #31 |
I'm not sure how putting those restrictions in place would encourage people to enter.
Originally posted by SDW:
From what the data tells me there's not a problem with the scores. Voters are still voting consistent. But it is hard to deny that there is a problem with entries, votes, and comments.
Something needs to be done to excite people to enter, vote, and comment.
First suggestion (just a thought).
1. With the current level of entries limit the amount of entries per challenge to 100.
This would make voting 100% of the challenge without getting burnt out.
2. Have an criteria you have to meet to be able to enter a challenge. Such as x-# of votes/comments to enter the next challenge.
3. Have a criteria you must meet to be able to enter the monthly free studies. Maybe base it on your participation in weekly challenges (entries, votes, and comments).
Just some ideas. Some maybe good and others bad. I am one of the ones that has lost enthusiasm over the last year or two. So I'm talking about myself. Sorry! |
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05/31/2011 10:50:08 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
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If we bitched about the bitching about the admins as much as those who bitch about the admins bitch we'd never have time to DQ any photos ... |
Whoa...
Okay.
Seems like the last time I checked in here, there were some cool stats. How did we come to this?! |
Aswww, you know how it goes,  LydiaToo, one thing leads to another and the boys like to give the 'b' word some exercise once in a while...we'll get back to the main subject eventually.
:) |
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05/31/2011 11:00:00 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... when they do get here they see pages full of bitching about how this site -- once "so great when I got here," now isn't because it's the same as it ever was ... |
Don't forget to mention all the admins bitching about the bitching. ;-) |
If we bitched about the bitching about the admins as much as those who bitch about the admins bitch we'd never have time to DQ any photos ... |
Whoa...
Okay.
Seems like the last time I checked in here, there were some cool stats. How did we come to this?! |
Err ... I took Paul's last post as pretty humorous. I'm sure he wasn't being serious. :) |
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05/31/2011 11:03:26 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by lreynelsg:
The question would be more like why did these people leave and why the people that is still here, well, is still here? I'm more interested on hearing the answer from the second group... I think that has to do with other things beyond the look or functionality of the site...
My 2 cents... :) |
I'm pretty solidly in the second group, but barely hanging on by my fingernails. I also joined in 2006, and I used to have 2 entries every week, and almost never missed a challenge (so sometimes I was up to 4 in voting at once).
My own story is frequently repeated in my life: I moved on to other intensive activities. I learned how to shoot pretty well and I use those skills, but other things take my attention away from wanting to devote hours to DPC like I used to.
But I keep coming back because a) I truly like pretty much everyone I've ever met through this site, b) I like getting the opinion of voters every once in a while.
Yes, the site's not really keeping up, but I don't really care. I have very minor needs in terms of portfolio space or functionality. |
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05/31/2011 11:54:31 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... when they do get here they see pages full of bitching about how this site -- once "so great when I got here," now isn't because it's the same as it ever was ... |
Don't forget to mention all the admins bitching about the bitching. ;-) |
If we bitched about the bitching about the admins as much as those who bitch about the admins bitch we'd never have time to DQ any photos ... |
Whoa...
Okay.
Seems like the last time I checked in here, there were some cool stats. How did we come to this?! |
Err ... I took Paul's last post as pretty humorous. I'm sure he wasn't being serious. :) |
Um, err, that's why the little happy face, levyj413.
I think 'serious' flew out the window to join sirius.
:)
Message edited by author 2011-05-31 23:55:03. |
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05/31/2011 11:58:30 PM · #36 |
| So out of curiosity, as I dont think I have read this. How are new challenges decided exactly? |
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06/01/2011 12:08:06 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Socom:
So out of curiosity, as I dont think I have read this. How are new challenges decided exactly? |
 Langdon has this huge challenge-dartboard... everyday, right after his 6th can of beer, he throws darts for the upcoming challenges...
I think... or the hamster is doing the selection! who knows.
Message edited by author 2011-06-01 00:08:23. |
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06/01/2011 12:42:00 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... when they do get here they see pages full of bitching about how this site -- once "so great when I got here," now isn't because it's the same as it ever was ... |
Don't forget to mention all the admins bitching about the bitching. ;-) |
If we bitched about the bitching about the admins as much as those who bitch about the admins bitch we'd never have time to DQ any photos ... |
Whoa...
Okay.
Seems like the last time I checked in here, there were some cool stats. How did we come to this?! |
Err ... I took Paul's last post as pretty humorous. I'm sure he wasn't being serious. :) |
Um, err, that's why the little happy face, levyj413.
I think 'serious' flew out the window to join sirius.
:) |
Now I'm confused. LydiaToo seemed to take Paul ( GeneralE)'s comment pretty seriously. Where am I missing a smiley? |
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06/01/2011 12:49:32 AM · #39 |
To chime in on this and risk becoming extremely unpopular....I was here for a few years and then walked away for almost 2 years. I complained alot in the beginning, as does everyone, about no comments and lack of feedback. Then I got involved in side challenges and the DPL and found what I was looking for.
But to be honest, I left here because I was truely tired of waterdrops, and ducks, and woodies and familiar faces in every shot that seem to place so high in so many of the challenges. Don't get me wrong....most of these images are amazing and I would love to be able to master the tecniques. All praise to the creative and extremely talented photographers that pulled this off.
It was basically the "gimmicks" used and seeing the same thing time after time that eventually bored me to tears. I came back because I did make some great friends here and Lord knows I have a lot to learn about something that I enjoy so much. I have decided to just get over the repetative things that I fear will never change and get back to admiring and learning from those that inspire me. It is still a great site and community. I have my hard hat on now, so let the rocks fly...LOL
Message edited by author 2011-06-01 00:50:54. |
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06/01/2011 05:29:29 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Socom:
So out of curiosity, as I dont think I have read this. How are new challenges decided exactly? |
Langdon has this huge challenge-dartboard... everyday, right after his 6th can of beer, he throws darts for the upcoming challenges...
I think... or the hamster is doing the selection! who knows. |
Nothing like casting aspersions on a person's character or suggesting he is prone to drinking to enhance discussion on a serious matter.
I have no problems whatsoever in discussing issues, but this thread for the most part is nothing more than finger pointing with little effort to seriously address the situation.
As my dear departed father used to say: "Any idiot can take a watch apart... sadly there are only a few people who can put it back together and get it to work."
Perhaps as a collective we would be better served if me focused on the causes of our discontent and made suggestions on how to improve the site.
Just a thought,
Ray
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06/01/2011 05:35:06 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
... this thread for the most part is nothing more than finger pointing with little effort to seriously address the situation... |
but we like finger-pointing. Presidents do it, businessmen do it... everyone do it.
I think if you read the whole thing, you will see most of us did "address" the situation "seriously". little fun here and there wouldn't hurt either! |
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06/01/2011 06:11:34 AM · #42 |
It appears that Langdon set up DPC as a lifestyle business - Enough money coming in to run the servers and a bit of pocket money for himself. I'm guessing he has a day job where he earns his main income.
And that's the problem - The site would only ever expand and improve if it was someone's main bread and butter, and that someone had a plan in place for DPC.
I developed a software app for small businesses about 6 years ago, it's still selling well. What I realised was adding 'nice-to-have' features kept the existing userbase happy (who would have stayed anyway) but didn't increase the number of customers. So the return didn't match the effort. |
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06/01/2011 08:22:51 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by lreynelsg:
...why the people that is still here, well, is still here? I'm more interested on hearing the answer from the second group... I think that has to do with other things beyond the look or functionality of the site... |
this place was my home seven years ago when my IT business was getting crushed by outsourcing. through this site i was able to hone my photography skills enough to launch a freelance business. that business consumes pretty much all of my non-family time, leaving me little time to compete in challenges.
on the other hand, i have made (and met) a lot of friends here, and i try to give back by contributing to the forums. even so, i can't help but wonder how much more this site could have been... |
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06/01/2011 09:28:10 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Socom:
So out of curiosity, as I dont think I have read this. How are new challenges decided exactly? |
Langdon has this huge challenge-dartboard... everyday, right after his 6th can of beer, he throws darts for the upcoming challenges...
I think... or the hamster is doing the selection! who knows. |
Well the reason I was asking is, maybe that is what we need to change. Maybe each year or every 6 months, its a new group of people who decide on the challenges, maybe that will help mix it up a little bit and give us fresh ideas and challenges. |
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06/01/2011 09:42:43 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by Socom:
So out of curiosity, as I dont think I have read this. How are new challenges decided exactly? |
I heard it was a headless chicken, like in that south park episode.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyOvxpZ_xE
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06/01/2011 11:12:26 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... when they do get here they see pages full of bitching about how this site -- once "so great when I got here," now isn't because it's the same as it ever was ... |
Don't forget to mention all the admins bitching about the bitching. ;-) |
If we bitched about the bitching about the admins as much as those who bitch about the admins bitch we'd never have time to DQ any photos ... |
I remember back in the old days of membership-upswing, if people started bitching too much the Site Council would often retort by saying something along the lines, " Langdon could pull the plug on DPC at any moment if he so decides, so shut up and be happy with what you have!"
That retort seems to have disappeared some years ago. I wonder where it went.
At any rate, I fear change and hope the site stays as it is forever!
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06/01/2011 12:08:40 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
That retort seems to have disappeared some years ago. I wonder where it went. |
Maybe it went away with some of the SC who haven't been around for a while ;) |
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06/01/2011 03:17:02 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Now I'm confused. LydiaToo seemed to take Paul ( GeneralE)'s comment pretty seriously. Where am I missing a smiley? |
For the record, my comment was 95% non-serious and 5% b****ing ... I may have accidentally omitted any smiley in thinking that the phrasing of the comment was enough of a clue as to its seriousness or lack thereof.
Message edited by author 2011-06-01 15:20:43. |
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06/01/2011 04:34:31 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by levyj413:
Now I'm confused. LydiaToo seemed to take Paul ( GeneralE)'s comment pretty seriously. Where am I missing a smiley? |
For the record, my comment was 95% non-serious and 5% b****ing ... I may have accidentally omitted any smiley in thinking that the phrasing of the comment was enough of a clue as to its seriousness or lack thereof. |
Well, I got it, Paul. :) :) :) ;) :) ;) :D :D :) ;) :D |
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06/01/2011 07:47:36 PM · #50 |
I would like to see DPC come out with an official app for the IPhone and Droid. An app that would let you participate in the forums, vote and comment.
I remember reading where a member created an app (thank you for your dedication to DPC) but I think DPC needs to create an official app. They could work with the member that created the unofficial app to get an official app, if he or she is willing to do it. Sorry I don't remember the members name. |
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