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01/25/2011 10:00:20 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
lol :) nice image. im a matrix fan myself. but there are other actual sentinels out there. |
Lots of subjects which I would include in the literal and/or figurative term "Sentinel".
Related to SENTINEL
Synonyms: custodian, guardian, keeper, lookout, minder, picket, guard, sentry, warden, warder, watch, watcher, watchman |
thanks for the dictionary link.
yep, i'll take any of those synonyms as valid interpretation of the challenge.
here's where im coming from:
i looked at the image search results, and saw many of them resemble a local structure which im intending to shoot for this. Upon reading the challenge description, i noticed the word "definitive". I realize, my intended entry would be more of a figurative interpretation. so im asking, can something figurative be more definitive than something that is actual? |
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01/25/2011 10:34:18 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
i looked at the image search results, and saw many of them resemble a local structure which im intending to shoot for this. Upon reading the challenge description, i noticed the word "definitive". I realize, my intended entry would be more of a figurative interpretation. so im asking, can something figurative be more definitive than something that is actual? |
I take that part of the description to mean: "Show us your idea of the essence of 'sentinel'!" I don't take it to mean, there's only one, definitive sentinel: they want YOU to define sentinel in the way you think best suits.
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01/25/2011 10:52:38 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
i looked at the image search results, and saw many of them resemble a local structure which im intending to shoot for this. Upon reading the challenge description, i noticed the word "definitive". I realize, my intended entry would be more of a figurative interpretation. so im asking, can something figurative be more definitive than something that is actual? |
I take that part of the description to mean: "Show us your idea of the essence of 'sentinel'!" I don't take it to mean, there's only one, definitive sentinel: they want YOU to define sentinel in the way you think best suits.
R. |
thanks again Bear. well, this is a photography website and photography is an art. having said that, we are.. uhm.. artists, and artists usually define things beyond the obvious. i think i'll go with my entry.
best of luck everyone :) |
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01/25/2011 10:55:33 PM · #29 |
| I wonder if a snapshot of a box of Sentinel tick and flea preventative would count..... |
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01/26/2011 05:52:53 AM · #30 |
| My entry is more of a figurative interpretation but my question is about the title. From the description it really does sound like they want us to title them "Sentinel". |
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01/26/2011 08:36:18 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by Hipychik:
My entry is more of a figurative interpretation but my question is about the title. From the description it really does sound like they want us to title them "Sentinel". |
Yes, I've been convinced that some will vote DNMC if the title is not "Sentinel". I think this is unfortunate wording in the challenge description, but.... "conformity r us". |
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01/26/2011 08:51:00 AM · #32 |
I thought them sentinels was to keep bathrooms smellin' purdy.
In all seriousness though, I'm deducting points if anyone even titles it "The Sentinel." It's either "Sentinel" or it's a 1. |
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01/26/2011 10:06:37 AM · #33 |
I am so glad this is getting a lot of discussion. Personally I am amazed this suggestion made it as a challenge. I was the originator of the idea so I will try to tell you what I was thinking when I made the suggestion.
I took notice that many photos' titles use the word sentinel. While looking at the sentinel photo's brought up in the search results, I noticed that there was a pattern and a concept associated with the term... A lonely building, a tree, a lighthouse, a cliff, one object that stood taller than the remaining similar object. The photos were also composed in such a way that the object referred to as sentinel was made to look the most important in the shot. Whether it was by looking up at it using perspective, or showing how it was bigger than the other objects it resembled, or by being the lone object looking out over the vast landscape, something was done using composition to associate the subject with the title "Sentinel".
So, with so many people shooting similar concepts I thought we should have the challenge to see who could pull off the best Sentinel shot. Yes, I thought it would be fun to have the word Sentinel in the title somehow. So the challenge could also be interpreted to say "In the style of the Sentinel search results" which is very similar to challenges we have had trying to mimic another photographers style.
Bottom line is that in my opinion, this is a challenge where the most important camera technique is going to be your use of composition. Boring, Perhaps. But then there is everything else that you can do, use of golden hour, color v. B&W, sunset/sunrise, blur v. sharp, HDR, Landscape v. portrait v. abstract v. still life v. macro, whatever.
I hope that helps somewhat. I did imagine that this challenge would be full of a lot of very similar shots and the best one would rise to the top. I kind of see that as a great way to hold a challenge and help everyone to learn something. Have everyone shoot for the same thing, rather than give a general term and have 150 individual concepts and end up with low voting based on not meeting the challenge. But I guess you can't solve that dilemma. |
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01/26/2011 10:13:34 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
In all seriousness though, I'm deducting points if anyone even titles it "The Sentinel." It's either "Sentinel" or it's a 1. |
A little harsh, dont'cha think?
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01/26/2011 10:32:22 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by bohemka:
In all seriousness though, I'm deducting points if anyone even titles it "The Sentinel." It's either "Sentinel" or it's a 1. |
A little harsh, dont'cha think? |
A little tongue-in-cheek, don'tcha think? :-)
R. |
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01/26/2011 11:05:23 AM · #36 |
| would a still life qualify for this challenge, if it still had a Sentinel metaphor? Everything is covered in nasty dirty snow around here, very ugly outside. |
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01/26/2011 11:22:54 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by bohemka:
In all seriousness though, I'm deducting points if anyone even titles it "The Sentinel." It's either "Sentinel" or it's a 1. |
A little harsh, dont'cha think? |
A little tongue-in-cheek, don'tcha think? :-)
R. |
Perhaps, but I've known of people dropping 1's for seemingly minor things.
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01/26/2011 12:34:17 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
I thought them sentinels was to keep bathrooms smellin' purdy.
In all seriousness though, I'm deducting points if anyone even titles it "The Sentinel." It's either "Sentinel" or it's a 1. |
LOL - I hear ya! |
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01/26/2011 12:54:35 PM · #39 |
| Yeah, just joking around, Spiff. But true enough, I shouldn't put such horrible ideas in folks' heads. |
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01/26/2011 01:32:56 PM · #40 |
I hope there are pictures with multiple sentinels.
Message edited by author 2011-01-26 13:33:29.
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01/26/2011 02:05:10 PM · #41 |
| I'll be voting 1 on any entries with the title "Forgotten". |
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01/26/2011 03:35:06 PM · #42 |
Actually I really, really like this challenge.
Because I don't have to come up with a title!!!!!!!!!!!!
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01/26/2011 03:37:53 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Actually I really, really like this challenge.
Because I don't have to come up with a title!!!!!!!!!!!! |
I'll be voting 1 for any entries with the word, "sentinel" in the title. ;-P |
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01/26/2011 03:46:36 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Actually I really, really like this challenge.
Because I don't have to come up with a title!!!!!!!!!!!! |
That's actually one of my favorite parts of the challenges! Coming up with a title that hints at the challenge topic, but also conveys to the viewer what the "artistic" take is, and avoiding entirely literal method-descriptive titles like, "Toy Solider shot with a light above and another to the right".
But then, I really like words, so coming up with the "perfect" title for my entry has a certain thrill. |
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01/26/2011 03:51:52 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Ductyl:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Actually I really, really like this challenge.
Because I don't have to come up with a title!!!!!!!!!!!! |
That's actually one of my favorite parts of the challenges! Coming up with a title that hints at the challenge topic, but also conveys to the viewer what the "artistic" take is, and avoiding entirely literal method-descriptive titles like, "Toy Solider shot with a light above and another to the right".
But then, I really like words, so coming up with the "perfect" title for my entry has a certain thrill. |
Ok -- I just need you to title my entries, then. I absolutely hate having to come up with a title.
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01/27/2011 02:13:14 AM · #46 |
I did imagine that this challenge would be full of a lot of very similar shots and the best one would rise to the top.  EL-ROI
What if we don't come up with the same sort of shot which has been labeled "Sentinel" in the past ? What if we go for something humourous will we get points deducted ?
Message edited by author 2011-01-27 02:14:23. |
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01/27/2011 02:30:50 AM · #47 |
One of the many things that director Peter Jackson got exactly right in his version of The Lord of the Rings was the Argonaths. These were two giant statues of kings, each with one hand outstretched in warning and the other on a sword or an axe. He made them as Tolkien described them: towering stone sentinels guarding the great River Anduin. Even in Middle Earth, thereΓΆ€™s nothing like a massive statue to impress foreigners.
Another famous sentinel was Ozymandias:
//judebert.com/progress/media/fark/rockring_ozymandias.jpg
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".
And then there was the Colossus of Rhodes which was a statue of the Greek god Helios, erected in the city of Rhodes.
//www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=The+Colossus+of+Rhodes+was+a+statue+of+the+Greek+god+Helios,+erected+in+the+city+of+Rhodes&cp=0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1582&bih=826
And of course let's not forget the Statue Of Liberty, a sentinel in it's own right.
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01/27/2011 09:24:42 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by Neat:
I did imagine that this challenge would be full of a lot of very similar shots and the best one would rise to the top. EL-ROI
What if we don't come up with the same sort of shot which has been labeled "Sentinel" in the past ? What if we go for something humourous will we get points deducted ? |
No, I don't think points should be deducted for being original or humorous.
I would like everyone to just do their best and have fun shooting something that you think represents the word sentinel. I think you should always let your photography show your personality and your artistic vision without regard to what others think. Take any criticism with a grain of salt and let that criticism stand as one person's opinion. Your photography is your own creative outlet. Let your creativity flow without fear! |
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01/27/2011 10:03:04 AM · #49 |
Let your creativity flow without fear! Oh EL-ROIyour too deep.[/i]
Thanks a million, I'll keep my post.
Message edited by author 2011-01-27 10:04:51. |
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01/27/2011 01:43:12 PM · #50 |
| The Sentinel by Arthur C. Clarke was the basis for Stanley Kubrick's movie 2001: A Space Odyssey ... obviously a photogenic subject and not very hard to set up ... |
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