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 03/15/2004 11:38:59 AM · #1
So with the magazine cover challenge, and advanced editing rules in play, are we going to see lots of 'final' versions, with text etc ? Is that good or bad ?
 03/15/2004 11:41:21 AM · #2
Quotation taken directly from the advanced rules page.

"The only thing you may not do to your photograph during post-shot editing is add text (including copyright statements.)"

03/15/2004 12:45:24 PM · #3
I don't think that text should be added, but, space SHOULD be left for the text that goes on the cover. That is a major consideration when shooting magazine covers.
03/15/2004 12:47:20 PM · #4
This is a repeat of an earlier challenge ... you might want to review the results and see what did well.
 03/15/2004 12:50:46 PM · #5
Originally posted by GeneralE:
This is a repeat of an earlier challenge ... you might want to review the results and see what did well.

But be ready for accusations of plagiarism and unoriginality
 03/15/2004 12:57:25 PM · #6
NOTE: To achieve the full effect, you have to imagine this sung with a bad fake Russian accent.

Plagiarize,
Let no one else's work evade your eyes,
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
So don't shade your eyes,
But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize...
Only be sure always to call it please, "research".

--Tom Lehrer, Lobachevsky (c. 1951)

Message edited by author 2004-03-15 12:57:49.
 03/15/2004 01:03:14 PM · #7
Originally posted by GeneralE:
NOTE: To achieve the full effect, you have to imagine this sung with a bad fake Russian accent.

Plagiarize,
Let no one else's work evade your eyes,
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
So don't shade your eyes,
But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize...
Only be sure always to call it please, "research".

--Tom Lehrer, Lobachevsky (c. 1951)

General, wild stab in the dark, but have you just picked up a link to the cross-referenced, collected work of Tom Lehrer? :)
 03/15/2004 01:29:06 PM · #8
My parents had his first 10" LP, self-produced (300 copies) while he was still an undergraduate at Harvard right around the time I was born. I already know just about all the lyrics (and intros) from his albums, but find it easier to cut and paste them from where this person has so conveniently transcribed them all. Fortunately, Tom's an equal-opportunity offender, and so is a ready repository of pithy quotes on virtually any subject.
 03/15/2004 02:54:17 PM · #9
Another advanced editing quandary.

Suppose you took a picture of the pyramids for magazine cover, and moved them slightly to improve the composition.

Does this have less photographic integrity ?

Does it then meet the challenge more ?
 03/15/2004 03:04:34 PM · #10
Originally posted by Gordon:
Another advanced editing quandary.

Suppose you took a picture of the pyramids for magazine cover, and moved them slightly to improve the composition.

Does this have less photographic integrity ?

Does it then meet the challenge more ?

It depends. If the cover is for National Geographic, a journal with a putatively educational mission, it would be inappropriate.

For the cover of Time Travel Quarterly, a Sci-Fi magazine whose lead story revolves around the position of the pyramids being a clue to the changing of history, it might be fine.

Myself, I'd put one of them upside-down so that there would be no confusion that it had been moved.
 03/15/2004 03:17:24 PM · #11
The point being, National Geographic already published that shot, so surely its more realistic to move them, than not ?
 03/15/2004 03:24:11 PM · #12
magazine covers of the past

this is an ineresting look at how covers have evolved.
I agree with Spazmo99, composing the image to allow for text is something I will be considering.

Even though many fashion type mag's now overprint the image and it seems to have actually become secondary.
 03/15/2004 03:25:15 PM · #13
Originally posted by Gordon:
The point being, National Geographic already published that shot, so surely its more realistic to move them, than not ?

I knew that, and as I recall a few people were upset by it. Fortunately, that cover is not the sole remaining extant photo of the pyramids, nor do I think we should include it in a time capsule for future archeologists to find.
 03/15/2004 03:40:56 PM · #14
Just to confirm.

"no text" for this challenge given the new rules?
03/15/2004 03:45:51 PM · #15
no text is right
 03/15/2004 03:47:31 PM · #16
Originally posted by Konador:
no text is right


Thanks for the confirmation! You saved me a bunch of "1's"

03/15/2004 03:50:18 PM · #17
And a DQ probably :P
 03/15/2004 03:57:15 PM · #18
And DO NOT PUT A YELLOW BORDER ON YOUR NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAGAZINE COVER!!!!! You'll get sniped by the yellow border patrol!
 03/15/2004 09:18:19 PM · #19
Originally posted by crabappl3:
And DO NOT PUT A YELLOW BORDER ON YOUR NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAGAZINE COVER!!!!! You'll get sniped by the yellow border patrol!

Ah, that silent sect.
 03/15/2004 09:32:06 PM · #20
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Originally posted by crabappl3:
And DO NOT PUT A YELLOW BORDER ON YOUR NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAGAZINE COVER!!!!! You'll get sniped by the yellow border patrol!

Ah, that silent sect.


Actually they were quite vocal.
 03/15/2004 09:34:52 PM · #21
hmm, sports is looking good, as im good at that, and my brother has an upcoming hockey tourn in atlanta this weekend. Hmmm airport pictures too! is there an airport magazine?
 03/16/2004 06:22:18 AM · #22
Originally posted by Gordon:
Suppose you took a picture of the pyramids for magazine cover, and moved them slightly to improve the composition.

Does this have less photographic integrity ?

Does it then meet the challenge more ?

Yes
No

Message edited by author 2004-03-16 06:22:53.
 03/16/2004 07:09:20 AM · #23
Originally posted by Gordon:
Suppose you took a picture of the pyramids for magazine cover, and moved them slightly to improve the composition.

I saw a TV documentary a while ago following some American tourists on a trip to the UK. They were particularly keen on the brochure, showing Stonehenge in front of a beautiful sunset and the ocean..

Let's just say they weren't too amused when they visited Stonehenge and found out it's actually nowhere near the ocean.
 03/16/2004 08:15:31 AM · #24
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Suppose you took a picture of the pyramids for magazine cover, and moved them slightly to improve the composition.

I saw a TV documentary a while ago following some American tourists on a trip to the UK. They were particularly keen on the brochure, showing Stonehenge in front of a beautiful sunset and the ocean..

Let's just say they weren't too amused when they visited Stonehenge and found out it's actually nowhere near the ocean.


You need to acquire a Texan sense of scale - then realise that everywhere in the UK is near the 'ocean'
 03/16/2004 09:55:29 AM · #25
Originally posted by Gordon:
You need to acquire a Texan sense of scale - then realise that everywhere in the UK is near the 'ocean'

Whatever sense of scale you use, you can't take a shot of Stonehenge with the ocean behind it!
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