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08/09/2010 12:21:52 AM · #1 |
Anyone else want to protest against DNMC cops in Minimalism in Black and White challenge? |
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08/09/2010 12:30:25 AM · #2 |
I was fairly flexible on my definition, but I have to admit yours was one of the few I felt didn't suit the topic. I think I see your connection, however. You felt the person in the scene was the minimalism? If that's the case, I see your connection, but I don't think it was what the topic called for.
My own was one of the shots that was on the edge of the definition for many people and that is probably what kept mine down. Plus, the lack of comments and higher end votes indicates it really didn't resonate with anyone.
Message edited by author 2010-08-09 00:31:00. |
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08/09/2010 12:45:31 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by DigiFotoBuddy:
Anyone else want to protest against DNMC cops in Minimalism in Black and White challenge? |
I simply MUST hear your argument for this being applicable to minimalism... |
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08/09/2010 12:54:07 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by coryboehne:
I simply MUST hear your argument for this being applicable to minimalism... |
I have absolutely no argument for my score. It̢۪s just how much you points one can minus for DNMC. I defiantly had my concept for minimalism wrong. But I think it is not completely off the topic in my opinion. Instead of just sky or water; mountain, cloud and trees make the photo very much busy. What can you say, you learn from your own mistakes.
Message edited by author 2010-08-09 01:07:21. |
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08/09/2010 07:21:17 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by DigiFotoBuddy:
... It̢۪s just how much you points one can minus for DNMC. ... |
In quite a few threads about voting, the argument seems to be a tug of war between two camps: those who vote "1" for images they find outside of their own (narrow) interpretation of the topic of a challenge (many find that unreasonable) and those who reduce a score by one level, or maybe two levels if far off topic. We have no ability to deduct fractions of points. So it is fair to predict that a reasonable net impact of "off topic" vote deductions would be average somewhere between 1 and 2 points.
The over-all average score for this challenge was a bit low at 5.4658. Your image only recieved a single "1" and had a score histogram spread out from 1 to 8. Add back a one point average deduction for being thought off topic (minimum possible), and your score would be 5.6259. Add back 1.5 as the average deduction, and your score would be 6.1259. May not take away all the sting of a lowish score, but these numbers suggest that the DNMC effect may not have been unexpectedly harsh this time. |
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08/28/2010 12:20:16 PM · #6 |
I know I'm late to the party on this one but I just got back to a computer today and wanted to get some incite on why mine is not a still life shot.  Everything about my image was set-up and still. Which seemed to be the biggest argument from DNMC voters. I realize now that I may have given the illusion of motion and that seemed to be my big mistake but is there anything else anyone can tell me that make this not a still life? I was really proud of this image and really liked it too. Maybe I should have kept it and tried it out in the FS? 
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08/28/2010 02:37:19 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by SEG:
I know I'm late to the party on this one but I just got back to a computer today and wanted to get some incite on why mine is not a still life shot. |
I know you want to incite some insight, but I'm afraid the only reason I can think of is that a "still life" usually includes an assortment of objects, while your image might be considered by some a close-up of a single object, the record and its player being felt an integral unit. But I myself would not consider it DNMC ... |
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08/28/2010 03:22:44 PM · #8 |
Where the zork is the movement in this shot? Unblured words on the record, the speedy wossnames on the side are not blured.
Its not conventional still life (flowers, vases, stuff like that) .... hmmm was Turner a painter ? |
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08/28/2010 03:36:01 PM · #9 |
| It's not a building at Disney -- I'll give him that much. |
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08/28/2010 04:33:06 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by bvy:
It's not a building at Disney -- I'll give him that much. |
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08/28/2010 04:35:00 PM · #11 |
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08/28/2010 04:35:45 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by SEG:
I know I'm late to the party on this one but I just got back to a computer today and wanted to get some incite on why mine is not a still life shot. |
I know you want to incite some insight, but I'm afraid the only reason I can think of is that a "still life" usually includes an assortment of objects, while your image might be considered by some a close-up of a single object, the record and its player being felt an integral unit. But I myself would not consider it DNMC ... |
Thanks, that's good advice. I didn't think about the "assortment of objects" angle. I would love to here from anyone who did think it was DNMC and why. Don't worry I can take it. 
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08/28/2010 05:01:20 PM · #13 |
LOL, that was an interesting read.
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08/28/2010 09:21:13 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by SEG:
Thanks, that's good advice. I didn't think about the "assortment of objects" angle. I would love to here from anyone who did think it was DNMC and why. Don't worry I can take it. |
I gave it a 4. I didn't think it met the challenge, by my definition of it. But I'm a hardass on topics like "still life", "minimalism", "impressionism", any challenge that refers to something within the continuum of art history. I want to see images referencing that history, drawing from it, as it were. That's my particular bias. So for me, at a minimum, you needed to be composing at least a couple of objects in an interesting way. I see your image as a shot of an old record player, but not a still life.
R.
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08/28/2010 11:18:05 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by SEG:
Thanks, that's good advice. I didn't think about the "assortment of objects" angle. I would love to here from anyone who did think it was DNMC and why. Don't worry I can take it. |
I gave it a 4. I didn't think it met the challenge, by my definition of it. But I'm a hardass on topics like "still life", "minimalism", "impressionism", any challenge that refers to something within the continuum of art history. I want to see images referencing that history, drawing from it, as it were. That's my particular bias. So for me, at a minimum, you needed to be composing at least a couple of objects in an interesting way. I see your image as a shot of an old record player, but not a still life.
R. |
Cool, thanks
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Everything about my image was set-up and still. Which seemed to be the biggest argument from DNMC voters. I realize now that I may have given the illusion of motion and that seemed to be my big mistake but is there anything else anyone can tell me that make this not a still life? I was really proud of this image and really liked it too. Maybe I should have kept it and tried it out in the FS? 
