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07/29/2010 09:13:10 PM · #1 |
I've always wanted a big screen but have held onto my little TV for so long putting most of my money into camera gear. Now my wife has asked me to look into buying a TV.
In Japan, the 3D TV's seem to be all the big stores are selling. Smaller stores are still selling the 2D only TV's and at a very reasonable price (I think). A Panasonic 52 plasma (Last years model) is going for 2000USD where the 3D version is almost double. Since I have my old TV I am able to trade it in for a 300USD discount with most stores. The 3D TV in 2D looks the same as the simple 2D...I'm wondering if it's worth the extra bit for content that will be coming out over the next couple of years.
I've seen the LCD vs. Plasma debate. The store clerk says that if I do any gaming that has a picture that remains on the screen that the 'burn in' issue is still there. True? LCD are great for gaming but not so good for 3D since you have to be looking straight ahead. The Sony 3D TV's are a bit cheaper and their biggest 2D TV's right now are 46 inches. Nothing bigger is being sold, at least not in the big stores.
So, can someone point me in the right direction? |
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07/29/2010 09:33:25 PM · #2 |
Thank you for the post, my company promised me to buy me new tv this summer. Your post reminded me of what i forgot. I will remind them.
Other than that i did look some sony 3d tvs at some of the stores here in kobe and i did not see any problem.
I have only one thing to say that most of the companies have stopped making plasmas. Now this is only an information make what you will of it. I don't know whether that makes plasmas bad or good.
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07/29/2010 10:07:02 PM · #3 |
I burned thru my plasma... so I went to LCD... very happy... dont know about hte 3d thing... gonna be a LONG while before I go there (if ever) I dont even like 3d movies
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07/29/2010 10:14:50 PM · #4 |
| Just remember, the TV's seem a LOT smaller in the store. |
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07/29/2010 10:32:00 PM · #5 |
burn-in is a thing of the past.
if you aren't buying go led, thin, bright and amazing colors and get a 240hz or higher if you like the soap opera smoothing effect. in fact 600hz is the best, without getting into too many details it can play 24 30 and 60fps material natively without pulldown like most other sets do.
3D is going to be hit or miss, a lot of manufacturers are banking on it, but the content just inst there yet. Espn is going to be pushing a 3d channel soon here in the US.
There are two big knocks against 3d. One the price of the glasses is insane, and you will need a pair for all of family members and guests. two, how often is your tv on in the background, in order to take advantage of 3d you will need to wear those glasses all the time.
IMO, 3D will be a novelty, and it may take off in gaming, but i don't see it really taking hold. Right now its still mostly a gimmick in the theaters.
if you really want good advice check out AVSForums.com.
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07/30/2010 12:06:51 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
burn-in is a thing of the past. |
It is not.
It is less of an issue but it is still possible. Ask me how I know ;-) FWIW, you are much less likely to burn in a plasma TV playing games than you will watching one cable channel too much. That is, as long as you aren't playing 20 hours of the same game a week for months, and if you are, get a life, LOL! |
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07/30/2010 12:19:50 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
if you aren't buying go led, thin, bright and amazing colors and get a 240hz or higher if you like the soap opera smoothing effect. in |
I recently replaced a 42" plasma with a 50" LCD 240hz. I couldn't stand the soap opera smoothing effect. I returned it and got a 50" plasma 600hz and saved $800. It is thicker and heavier, put the picture quality is awesome. Both were Panosonic. |
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07/30/2010 12:23:18 AM · #8 |
If you are going truly big, do not rule out DLP. No, you can't hang it on the wall, but at very large sizes it may have some real benefits over plasma/lcd. I have a Samsung 65" LED DLP and I'll tell you it gets lots of comments when people come over to see it. I think there are fewer and fewer DLP manufacturers, but it is something to consider. They are also the greenest TVs on the market for their size (at least the LED versions) and consume much less energy. These days the TV actually generates a fair portion of your montly electric bill.
Message edited by author 2010-07-30 00:25:04. |
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07/30/2010 01:05:46 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
burn-in is a thing of the past.
if you aren't buying go led, thin, bright and amazing colors and get a 240hz or higher if you like the soap opera smoothing effect. in fact 600hz is the best, without getting into too many details it can play 24 30 and 60fps material natively without pulldown like most other sets do.
3D is going to be hit or miss, a lot of manufacturers are banking on it, but the content just inst there yet. Espn is going to be pushing a 3d channel soon here in the US.
There are two big knocks against 3d. One the price of the glasses is insane, and you will need a pair for all of family members and guests. two, how often is your tv on in the background, in order to take advantage of 3d you will need to wear those glasses all the time.
IMO, 3D will be a novelty, and it may take off in gaming, but i don't see it really taking hold. Right now its still mostly a gimmick in the theaters.
if you really want good advice check out AVSForums.com. |
great advice!
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07/30/2010 01:56:20 AM · #10 |
We bought a 42" Toshiba Regza about a month ago. Very happy with it - though our free month of BS TV is almost up, but we recorded all the Star Wars movies in HQ. Now we're considering getting Hikari Terebi for pay-per-view TV.
It seems strange that you can trade in your old TV set - in this part of Japan you have to pay them to take it away for recycling (well, maybe that's the strange part).
I don't know if it's important for you, but the Sharp Aquos - or the Sony Bravia (ah, I can't remember which one) -is the only one that has an English menu.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with a 3D set. When we went to see Up! in 3D, my wife felt a bit queasy from watching it.
eta: I have heard that Korean manufacturers are leading the TV technology race at the moment, but I don't think Samsung TVs are generally available in Japan. Doc. ;-Þ
Message edited by author 2010-07-30 01:58:33. |
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07/30/2010 02:44:45 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
We bought a 42" Toshiba Regza about a month ago. Very happy with it - though our free month of BS TV is almost up, but we recorded all the Star Wars movies in HQ. Now we're considering getting Hikari Terebi for pay-per-view TV.
It seems strange that you can trade in your old TV set - in this part of Japan you have to pay them to take it away for recycling (well, maybe that's the strange part).
I don't know if it's important for you, but the Sharp Aquos - or the Sony Bravia (ah, I can't remember which one) -is the only one that has an English menu.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with a 3D set. When we went to see Up! in 3D, my wife felt a bit queasy from watching it.
eta: I have heard that Korean manufacturers are leading the TV technology race at the moment, but I don't think Samsung TVs are generally available in Japan. Doc. ;-Þ |
in this part of japan too you are supposed to pay to take your electronics. I don't how much it is but we sure have to pay.
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07/30/2010 02:46:29 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
We bought a 42" Toshiba Regza about a month ago. Very happy with it - though our free month of BS TV is almost up..... |
yep this is another good thing about japan. If we bored of normal programs, there is full BS channel for all these b*ll sh*t things.
:-D :-D
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07/30/2010 09:40:32 AM · #13 |
If you buy from Japanet they take your old TV, air-con, fridge and you get a discount on your purchase. I know that when people move or buy new stuff they call recyclers to pick their stuff up at a cost (Or you make a midnight run to another neighborhood with your stuff in hand and drop it off)...but then there are also trucks blazing their loudspeakers saying they'll take all these things off your hands for nothing.
We're making a move to Takarazuka and the moving company we've picked also has a recycling system (A bonus for the crap we don't need anymore or for stuff we plan on buying new again).
As far as the TV goes, the Toshiba Regza looked beautiful at the store...beautiful. The plasma's, according to staff at 3 of the big stores here, are better with 3D and have deeper blacks. The Sony Bravia's are great if you plan on playing games but the 3D has ghosting and viewing from odd angles creates some weird shifting of images. The content is close to nothing but the Sony's have a 3D button that makes TV 'fake' 3D similar to the crap Hollywood has done to some of their movies AFTER they've been made, in post. However, TV shows like Heroes and certain sports channels will be 3D in Japan early next year. Content will start to trickle out this year but next year, according to what they say, will be the start of more content.
The 2D TV's are now selling much cheaper since the 3D TV's are selling well (Since June). Panasonic is in the lead. After a quick review on the led vs plasma debates, I saw that led's are not actually 1080i but a lower number...fudging the facts with other data. NOT that you can notice the difference.
I do video editing as well (Have gotten very much into it since the beginning of 2009...love video editing as much as photography. I have vimeo videos in hi-def I'd love to see on a new big screen.
Anyways, the first thing to buy is a new fridge and laundry machine. The TV may come at the end of the year. Gotta spend some of my hard-earned money at Ikea as well. |
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07/30/2010 11:23:50 AM · #14 |
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07/30/2010 12:05:15 PM · #15 |
| My $12 pair of sunglasses broke recently, so I splurged and bought $25 polarized sunglasse. The polarizing is at different, wonky angles on each lens, so it's like walking around in a cheap 3-D movie. Now I'm constantly stepping over floating manhole covers. |
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07/30/2010 12:28:48 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
My $12 pair of sunglasses broke recently, so I splurged and bought $25 polarized sunglasse. The polarizing is at different, wonky angles on each lens, so it's like walking around in a cheap 3-D movie. Now I'm constantly stepping over floating manhole covers. |
can you see through women's clothing? |
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08/05/2010 11:51:53 AM · #17 |
| Bought 2 42" plasma screens at 900USD a piece...one for the living room one for my mother-in-law... |
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08/05/2010 03:27:53 PM · #18 |
| Go with a projector :) I have a HD projector thrown against a 92" widescreen screen. It is flat out awesome. For normal tv viewing I use a 42" sharp lcd behind the screen. It all depends on what you mainly use the tv for. |
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08/05/2010 04:46:17 PM · #19 |
I don't know about 3d but Sony is a great brand for LCD
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08/05/2010 04:49:24 PM · #20 |
| We have 2 Panasonic 42" Plasma TVs. Best thing I ever did. LCDs get dead pixels and have limited viewing angle. Our plasma screen will last approx 200,000 hours, I'll be in my 70's before I need another TV, although the 600 Hertz refresh does look tempting:) |
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08/05/2010 04:53:22 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by SteveJ:
We have 2 Panasonic 42" Plasma TVs. Best thing I ever did. LCDs get dead pixels and have limited viewing angle. Our plasma screen will last approx 200,000 hours, I'll be in my 70's before I need another TV, although the 600 Hertz refresh does look tempting:) |
..not that far off then....
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08/05/2010 04:55:05 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Originally posted by SteveJ:
We have 2 Panasonic 42" Plasma TVs. Best thing I ever did. LCDs get dead pixels and have limited viewing angle. Our plasma screen will last approx 200,000 hours, I'll be in my 70's before I need another TV, although the 600 Hertz refresh does look tempting:) |
..not that far off then.... |
Thanks Mike:)) Glad we only live 12 miles apart or we might run into each other one Saturday! |
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08/05/2010 04:59:48 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by SteveJ:
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Originally posted by SteveJ:
We have 2 Panasonic 42" Plasma TVs. Best thing I ever did. LCDs get dead pixels and have limited viewing angle. Our plasma screen will last approx 200,000 hours, I'll be in my 70's before I need another TV, although the 600 Hertz refresh does look tempting:) |
..not that far off then.... |
Thanks Mike:)) Glad we only live 12 miles apart or we might run into each other one Saturday! |
...one day our paths may cross! Especially as I am sort of retired now so plenty of time on my hands these days!
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08/05/2010 05:07:44 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Originally posted by SteveJ:
Originally posted by Sevlow:
Originally posted by SteveJ:
We have 2 Panasonic 42" Plasma TVs. Best thing I ever did. LCDs get dead pixels and have limited viewing angle. Our plasma screen will last approx 200,000 hours, I'll be in my 70's before I need another TV, although the 600 Hertz refresh does look tempting:) |
..not that far off then.... |
Thanks Mike:)) Glad we only live 12 miles apart or we might run into each other one Saturday! |
...one day our paths may cross! Especially as I am sort of retired now so plenty of time on my hands these days! |
Well, I'm just a 20 minute train ride away, so perhaps we can gtg sometime soon?? |
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08/06/2010 03:15:20 AM · #25 |
Yeh, sounds good Steve, will pm you
(apologies for hi-jacking thread!) |
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