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07/16/2010 02:14:23 PM · #1
A pastor friend of mine conveyed the following incident to me:

Interesting evening @ Chuck-E-Cheese. Total stranger accuses me of photographing his kids! I show the manager that I only have pics of my sons and my nieces. When I try to show him the pics, he says, "stay away from my kids or I'll break your neck."

What to do in this kind of situation?
07/16/2010 02:17:05 PM · #2
Tell him to up his meds and stay away from his kids in the meantime?

It's actually management's problem since it's on private property. They can ask you to stop taking pictures (no matter if you are taking pictures of other kids or not), or they can ask the other guy to leave for being rude. Either way, they are right.

Message edited by author 2010-07-16 14:18:14.
07/16/2010 02:18:49 PM · #3
A quick, sharp upper jab below his chin with the heel of your hand will snap his head back and break his neck first.
07/16/2010 02:27:37 PM · #4
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

A quick, sharp upper jab below his chin with the heel of your hand will snap his head back and break his neck first.


Personally I like the Bruce Willis in "The Last Boyscout" method of the heel of the hand to the nose for a more stylish display.
Then after a moment of pause, some witty rejoined such as "He'll take his order to go"
07/16/2010 02:30:42 PM · #5
Originally posted by retake:

A pastor friend of mine conveyed the following incident to me:

Interesting evening @ Chuck-E-Cheese. Total stranger accuses me of photographing his kids! I show the manager that I only have pics of my sons and my nieces. When I try to show him the pics, he says, "stay away from my kids or I'll break your neck."

What to do in this kind of situation?

Well, as a pastor I'd imagine he woudln't/shouldn't do much. Cheeks, and all that.
As a parent, getting accused of that in the presence of your kids would, I believe, be enough for an appropiately public display of your feelings about this. I'm unsure of what methods would be adopted to make your feelings known. Headbut to the nose?
07/16/2010 02:41:23 PM · #6
Originally posted by NiallOTuama:

Originally posted by retake:

A pastor friend of mine conveyed the following incident to me:

Interesting evening @ Chuck-E-Cheese. Total stranger accuses me of photographing his kids! I show the manager that I only have pics of my sons and my nieces. When I try to show him the pics, he says, "stay away from my kids or I'll break your neck."

What to do in this kind of situation?

Well, as a pastor I'd imagine he woudln't/shouldn't do much. Cheeks, and all that.
As a parent, getting accused of that in the presence of your kids would, I believe, be enough for an appropiately public display of your feelings about this. I'm unsure of what methods would be adopted to make your feelings known. Headbut to the nose?




Message edited by author 2010-07-26 18:24:03.
07/16/2010 02:42:42 PM · #7
Originally posted by retake:


Haha! He's a short, prematurely grey-haired man that probably couldn't reach the other guy's nose if he wanted to headbutt him!

Bible to the nose?

Message edited by author 2010-07-16 14:42:55.
07/16/2010 02:43:43 PM · #8
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

It's actually management's problem since it's on private property. They can ask you to stop taking pictures (no matter if you are taking pictures of other kids or not), or they can ask the other guy to leave for being rude. Either way, they are right.

This is the correct choice.

If management refuses to deal with it, you can call the police and file a complaint for assault (the threat to injure).

If you don't want to do that, I'd ask for a refund of my bill and leave, and report the incident to corporate headquarters, and ask for them to clarify their policy regarding photography.
07/16/2010 02:53:52 PM · #9
Originally posted by GeneralE:

and report the incident to corporate headquarters, and ask for them to clarify their policy regarding photography.


Oh, don't do this. That's just going to get some lawyer who doesn't want to think saying "no photography" because it's the easiest answer.
07/16/2010 03:19:57 PM · #10
Especially because that restaurant would love to ban cameras, because they sell the pictures of your kid and the mouse.
07/16/2010 03:23:58 PM · #11
If you have used a soft answer, and attempted to reason with him but he won't hear of it, the next move is on him. Continue with your innocent and proper and legal picture taking and make a point of not shooting in the direction of his kids. Paranoia is all over concerning one's kids these days, no use poking him in the eye because he's fearful.

On the way back to work from lunch one day last spring I drove by a flowering tree that was incredible. It sat at the end of a long driveway. I raised my camera and popped off a couple of frames as I drove by slowly, not expecting anything, but you never know. I did notice but wasn't concerned that I saw a car coming out of the driveway behind me. She followed me five blocks, pulled up beside me in my workplace parking lot. Eyes wide with fear she said, "Why were you taking pictures of my house?" Wow, lady, give me a break...I should have said I was going to sell her house!...but didn't, just gently explained, and she calmed down.

People are afraid, and that makes them irrational. But that doesn't mean we have to bust 'em upside the head.
07/16/2010 03:24:24 PM · #12
Originally posted by vawendy:

Especially because that restaurant would love to ban cameras, because they sell the pictures of your kid and the mouse.


Just another reason not to go there, IMO. I'm guessing the rude guy was probably drunk - I mean, you kinda have to be to choke down their pizza, right?
07/16/2010 03:28:09 PM · #13
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

That's just going to get some lawyer who doesn't want to think saying "no photography" because it's the easiest answer.

Good point.

I was think that learning how to use the voice memo recording feature would be handy for situations like this; on my camera I have one button to shift into movie-record mode.
07/16/2010 03:30:57 PM · #14
Originally posted by NiallOTuama:

Originally posted by retake:

A pastor friend of mine conveyed the following incident to me:

Interesting evening @ Chuck-E-Cheese. Total stranger accuses me of photographing his kids! I show the manager that I only have pics of my sons and my nieces. When I try to show him the pics, he says, "stay away from my kids or I'll break your neck."

What to do in this kind of situation?

Well, as a pastor I'd imagine he woudln't/shouldn't do much. Cheeks, and all that.
As a parent, getting accused of that in the presence of your kids would, I believe, be enough for an appropiately public display of your feelings about this. I'm unsure of what methods would be adopted to make your feelings known. Headbut to the nose?


A man after my own heart, Celtic blood and all that:) A Kirkby Kiss is usually enough to shock them, so you can make a run for it:))

An example: More properley "Kirkby Kiss" (named after the charming village of Kirkby the location of which is close to Liverpool) It pertains specifically to a headbutt administered to any unfortunate person who might happen to cause offence, or raise the ire, deliberately or otherwise of another. It is usually quick, bloody, painful, eye-watering and usually results in a complete capitulation by the unfortunate recipient.
"'e was gerrin on me effin nerves, keepin' askin fer 'is money back; so I giv im a Kirkby kiss. Sorted!"

Or a Glasgow Handshake or Kiss:
A headbutt. Within Glasgow itself the term 'Gorbals kiss' is often used, referring to the most dangerous area of Glasgow. It is hypothesised that within Gorbals it is known as a Crown Street kiss; and on Crown Street it is called a Number 73 kiss; and at Number 73 it is known as Steve's kiss. Steve, however, calls it whatever the fuck he wants to.
Love ain't like the movies
it blisters and bruises
and knocks you about with its fists
It Leaves you a wreckage
all postaged and packaged
and sealed with a Glasgow kiss


Message edited by author 2010-07-16 15:37:02.
07/16/2010 03:37:33 PM · #15
All of you recommending violent responses are shooting yourselves in the foot, as you will now be the one guilty of battery (striking a blow) -- possibly a felony. Way to go about making the world a safer place for photographers -- not ... :-(

If it's meant as a "joke" I find the proposed scenarios too close to reality to be funny -- something more extreme like "exile them to the new Lunar Penal Colony -- without a spacesuit" might work better, IMO ...
07/16/2010 03:43:02 PM · #16
Originally posted by GeneralE:

something more extreme like "exile them to the new Lunar Penal Colony -- without a spacesuit" might work better, IMO ...


My son wants to be an engineer when he graduates - we've always joked that his first project would be to build a stupid vacuum to suck all the irritating people up to Mars. :)
07/16/2010 04:11:52 PM · #17
I almost said Mars, :-)

Let me know when he starts raising venture capital ... ;-)
07/16/2010 05:17:12 PM · #18
That's right folks, violence solves everything, I mean, it wins wars doesn't it. :)

07/16/2010 05:34:48 PM · #19
I recall seeing a sign by the front door of my local Chuck E. Cheese that's says something about not being about to dine there if you are not with any children. Not sure if this was still true.
07/16/2010 06:05:15 PM · #20
Originally posted by faidoi:

I recall seeing a sign by the front door of my local Chuck E. Cheese that's says something about not being about to dine there if you are not with any children. Not sure if this was still true.

Children's Fairyland in Oakland also does not admit adults unaccompanied by children, nor vice versa for that matter ...
07/16/2010 07:34:05 PM · #21
While it is somewhat less testeronically satisfying, I would probably go with this...

"I'm sorry, I did not realize your children were in the frame. I'll be happy to delete any images where they can be seen."

Then go back and enjoy the pizza. When they left, I'd follow them home and call Ken to come and burn their village!

Message edited by author 2010-07-16 19:36:05.
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