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06/21/2010 10:43:32 AM · #676
Originally posted by JustCaree:


by hajeka

is a perfect replica
and deserved way more credit then it got


Absolutely agree with you - I thought it was great and scored it highly.

ETA: Original Martin Parr

Message edited by author 2010-06-21 10:45:41.
06/21/2010 10:49:44 AM · #677
Not trying to offend anyone here...but i'm not understanding why this particular cup of tea is characterized as a famous photograph...can someone explain it to me? I must be missing something....

btw im referring to the one by Martin Parr....

Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by JustCaree:


by hajeka

is a perfect replica
and deserved way more credit then it got


Absolutely agree with you - I thought it was great and scored it highly.

ETA: Original Martin Parr


Message edited by author 2010-06-21 10:52:28.
06/21/2010 11:27:01 AM · #678
Originally posted by wizardry:

Not trying to offend anyone here...but i'm not understanding why this particular cup of tea is characterized as a famous photograph...can someone explain it to me? I must be missing something....

btw im referring to the one by Martin Parr....


Well it's not a hugely famous shot by itself but it is very representative of an extremely famous style. Highly saturated British banality, yes please!
06/21/2010 11:32:38 AM · #679
Originally posted by wizardry:

Not trying to offend anyone here...but i'm not understanding why this particular cup of tea is characterized as a famous photograph...can someone explain it to me? I must be missing something....

btw im referring to the one by Martin Parr....


Martin Parr is a contemporary British photographer. His work tends towards recording the banal, everyday objects and aspects of life. He's heavy on social commentary as well. His work is not my cup of tea (pun intended) but he has garnered a lot of attention. He's represented by magnum, incidentally.

//www.martinparr.com/index1.html

R.

ETA: cross posted with Jimi :-)

Message edited by author 2010-06-21 17:52:36.
06/21/2010 11:54:36 AM · #680
Originally posted by wizardry:

Not trying to offend anyone here...but i'm not understanding why this particular cup of tea is characterized as a famous photograph...can someone explain it to me? I must be missing something....

btw im referring to the one by Martin Parr....

Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by JustCaree:


by hajeka

is a perfect replica
and deserved way more credit then it got


Absolutely agree with you - I thought it was great and scored it highly.

ETA: Original Martin Parr


Also if you are into the country Kitchen style of decoration you find a lot "this collection" in print when you are decorating. Its the classic country pattern. The lack of popularity of the image is probably why this image didnt score so hot.
06/21/2010 12:09:06 PM · #681
Originally posted by JustCaree:

The lack of popularity of the image is probably why this image didnt score so hot.


Well, that plus the fact that DPC isn't famous for rewarding the banal, even if it's a faithful reproduction of an equally banal original... I know this for a fact, I have entered quite a few "banal object" shots in challenges, and not a one of them ever struck a chord with the voters :-)

R.
06/21/2010 12:36:25 PM · #682
Ok thanks for the explanation all ;-)
06/21/2010 12:45:31 PM · #683
Hmmmm, that's why I tried to inject a bit of additional perspective in my image because as famous as the original is I thought we were to do our own take on it, not reproduce it exactly to a tee which would have been boring or possible plagiarist. A lot of people penalized me for messing with the original presentation. I tried very hard to duplicate the details exactly but in part chose to take the emphasis off the imperfections and focus on my own interpretation on something the original photographer might have cropped out that might have explained the situation. In this challenge most people wanted my image to be as unoriginal and banal as possible, which i would have thought shows a lack of interpretation or creativity. If it was supposed to be a exact duplicate then the description should have said "Find a famous photograph and try to re-create it exactly with no originality the situation in your own way. " And yet the Blue Ribbon went to an image that wonderfully pushed past and improved upon the original.
06/21/2010 12:49:42 PM · #684
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


...DPC isn't famous for rewarding the banal, even if it's a faithful reproduction of an equally banal original... I know this for a fact, I have entered quite a few "banal object" shots in challenges, and not a one of them ever struck a chord with the voters :-)

R.


This would be interesting to discuss. I am not sure I agree. I think the banal IS rewarded at dpc.
06/21/2010 12:55:12 PM · #685
Originally posted by tnun:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:


...DPC isn't famous for rewarding the banal, even if it's a faithful reproduction of an equally banal original... I know this for a fact, I have entered quite a few "banal object" shots in challenges, and not a one of them ever struck a chord with the voters :-)

R.


This would be interesting to discuss. I am not sure I agree. I think the banal IS rewarded at dpc.


You mean to say (and no offense meant to anyone, they are great images) that the following stuff is common / banal?

- someone working hard to build a wooden frame and dropping it in a lake to painfully recreate a famous photograph
- 'double' droplet crowns, achieved after hours of hard work
- getting a bath tub dragged to a beach for a self portrait

... ...:-)
06/21/2010 01:01:44 PM · #686
Originally posted by tnun:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:


...DPC isn't famous for rewarding the banal, even if it's a faithful reproduction of an equally banal original... I know this for a fact, I have entered quite a few "banal object" shots in challenges, and not a one of them ever struck a chord with the voters :-)

R.


This would be interesting to discuss. I am not sure I agree. I think the banal IS rewarded at dpc.


I think we're talking about different things. If I understand you correctly, you think the "DPC Formula" that covers many of our winning shots is, in and of itself, banal, that the cookie-cutter images become banal themselves. But what I'm talking about is setting out to photograph the utterly mundane in an unaffected way, drawing attention to the perfect ordinariness of the objects.



THAT, my friend, is what DPC doesn't care for, and THAT is the sort of work Martin Parr does.

Message edited by author 2010-06-21 13:02:35.
06/21/2010 01:04:09 PM · #687
Originally posted by Prash:

Originally posted by tnun:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:


...DPC isn't famous for rewarding the banal, even if it's a faithful reproduction of an equally banal original... I know this for a fact, I have entered quite a few "banal object" shots in challenges, and not a one of them ever struck a chord with the voters :-)

R.


This would be interesting to discuss. I am not sure I agree. I think the banal IS rewarded at dpc.


You mean to say (and no offense meant to anyone, they are great images) that the following stuff is common / banal?

- someone working hard to build a wooden frame and dropping it in a lake to painfully recreate a famous photograph
- 'double' droplet crowns, achieved after hours of hard work
- getting a bath tub dragged to a beach for a self portrait

... ...:-)


I know it's terrifying but no amount of hard work can keep the banal from being banal.
06/21/2010 01:05:25 PM · #688
Originally posted by posthumous:

I know it's terrifying but no amount of hard work can keep the banal from being banal.


It's not terrifying at all, though; the key is to GLORY in the banality of it all...

R.
06/21/2010 01:05:38 PM · #689
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

what I'm talking about is setting out to photograph the utterly mundane in an unaffected way, drawing attention to the perfect ordinariness of the objects.



I like those photos, but that is most certainly NOT what they are doing. If you set out to do that, you failed.
06/21/2010 01:07:06 PM · #690
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

what I'm talking about is setting out to photograph the utterly mundane in an unaffected way, drawing attention to the perfect ordinariness of the objects.



I like those photos, but that is most certainly NOT what they are doing. If you set out to do that, you failed.


SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :-)

R.
06/21/2010 01:10:45 PM · #691
Famous Photographs

to by Structor

to by JulietNN

06/21/2010 01:24:13 PM · #692
gets .

get .

Congratulations!
06/21/2010 02:09:43 PM · #693
Thank you very much, Prash!
06/21/2010 04:44:24 PM · #694
I loved this photo

Originally posted by smardaz:

Forgot to award this for the entry that gave me a good laugh:

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06/21/2010 05:34:13 PM · #695
Originally posted by posthumous:

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I know it's terrifying but no amount of hard work can keep the banal from being banal.


So true!
06/21/2010 05:47:53 PM · #696
Sorry, missed the discussion of my photo in this thread



Just some thoughts I had when making this photo:

There's no clear definition of what a famous photo is, so I choose just one I liked.

Martin Parr was the one who made me enthusiastic for photography in 2003 with a wonderful exhibition in Rotterdam. I know, some like his style, some don't. Obvious I do :) I think JimiRose formulated the thing very well, and Bear_Music added some nice things.

I knew this photo wouldn't score well (got some nice advice from my teammates btw), and it was fun to remake it with a Dutch touch ( too subtle I think)

Made a little compromise to DPC, since I couldn't find the photo I really wanted to remake, not so famous I suppose and probably good for an even worse score :)

Copy I found later on my hdisk

06/21/2010 05:50:43 PM · #697
Originally posted by JustCaree:


by hajeka

is a perfect replica
and deserved way more credit then it got


did you see this atleast?
06/21/2010 06:43:22 PM · #698
Originally posted by posthumous:

Famous Photographs

to by Structor

to by JulietNN

Thank you very much Don, I am very honored.

Message edited by author 2010-06-21 18:47:10.
06/21/2010 06:46:32 PM · #699
Originally posted by Prash:

gets .

get .

Congratulations!

Thank you very much Prash, I am very honered
06/22/2010 02:01:12 AM · #700
\Thankyou Don!
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