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06/12/2010 06:28:16 PM · #1
Ok, this did ok, but was wondering what you would have done to make this score higher? Was it the content? What was it that did not appeal to the voters?
No comments that were helpful, so I've no clue. This is almost straight from the camera. Very slight crop. Slight sharpen. Pretty much it. (Someone thought I partially desaturated the shot, but not the case.) I'm just trying to get an idea of what I need to do around here to appeal more to the voter. When NO ONE wants to leave a comment, I don't learn, I just scratch my head.

Thanks in advance.

06/12/2010 07:47:30 PM · #2
I scored this a 7. And to be honest, I thought it had been partially desaturated as well - which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I like the composition, but it was a tad on the dark side - and the drastic difference between the "colors" of the background and the green of the frog were dramatic (again, not necessarily a bad thing). I felt like the eye should have been the focal point of the image and it didn't seem like it was quite as "focused" as possible (I'm REALLY nitpicking here, but you asked for feedback!) The natural shape of this particular frog's eye is unusual and therefore a little unexpected. Perhaps a little more contrast on his eye would have brought more drama and focus to that rule of third's point (which you used well).

Just a few thoughts... I still think it's a great shot. ;-)
06/12/2010 08:24:02 PM · #3
Wish I could tell you what was wrong with it, but I loved it and gave it a 7. I expected this to come in at least in the high 5's if not a 6+. Maybe it just didn't pop off the screen enough for some people?
06/12/2010 08:28:08 PM · #4
My guess is it got hit by voters who made the assumption that it was selectively desaturated and don't like that effect. To me the grey background is a bit dull though the frog is quite interesting. Cropping closer I think may have helped downplay that (the dull background that is).

Message edited by author 2010-06-12 21:06:01.
06/12/2010 08:44:09 PM · #5
Reading your photog's notes now, I was surprised to learn that it's a real frog. It looked like plastic to me!
06/12/2010 09:08:47 PM · #6
left you a comment on the image itself.
06/12/2010 09:12:48 PM · #7
You can change it to this:



LOL...just kidding. I gave your photo a 6. I think the biggest thing for many people was the light and not knowing if the frog was real.

Originally posted by bergiekat:

Ok, this did ok, but was wondering what you would have done to make this score higher? Was it the content? What was it that did not appeal to the voters?
No comments that were helpful, so I've no clue. This is almost straight from the camera. Very slight crop. Slight sharpen. Pretty much it. (Someone thought I partially desaturated the shot, but not the case.) I'm just trying to get an idea of what I need to do around here to appeal more to the voter. When NO ONE wants to leave a comment, I don't learn, I just scratch my head.

Thanks in advance.
06/14/2010 09:55:27 PM · #8
LOL! I never would have thought about someone taking a photograph of a PLASTIC frog. (Too naive I guess.)

As usual, I like the dark contrast, but the background will probably appear darker on some monitors. Thanks for the feedback. This does help.

And Kenskid, pbbbbbbt!!! LOL! Thanks again gang! Hugs!!!!
06/14/2010 10:04:34 PM · #9
I gave it a 6. I like the dark background, I like the bright green, it seemed just a tad soft around the face, but I think the reflections on him don't help, they show as bright spots, perhaps a polarizer could have helped.

I gave it a 6 because even though the dark background is moody and wonderful, and he's so nicely green, he's not all that interesting. Perhaps going more to the left and getting more of his face, or closer in on his face might make him more interesting. It was just a nice picture of a frog. I think a frog from the side probably isn't as interesting as a frog from the front...
06/14/2010 10:11:55 PM · #10
I would have LOVED to have gotten a better shot/angle, but...he was in an enclosure, behind glass, inside and I'm not that tall, lol! I did have a polarizer on, but it only can do so much. Thanks for the comments. Even if the voting showed low, at least a few peeps thought it was ok. ;) Now I feel a little better.
06/14/2010 11:14:33 PM · #11
I would've done it a little differently...

06/14/2010 11:17:43 PM · #12
well, heck.....lol! I bow to your talents!
06/14/2010 11:19:05 PM · #13
Originally posted by bergiekat:

well, heck.....lol! I bow to your talents!

No talent really - it was heavy doses of radiation and genetic engineering.
06/15/2010 12:06:40 AM · #14
Completely aside from any issues of disapproval-of-assumed-partial-desat, when I look at the image I see 3 things that displease me:

1. The frog isn't sharp. Or not the face of him anyway; the leading leg is sharper but that doesn't help.
2. The pose is awkward; it really doesn't articulate the frog well. The right foreleg is leading down there but it's lost, except for the nails, which come across as disconnected islands of green. I realize there's not much you can DO to pose a frog behind glass in a zoo, but nevertheless...
3. The composition as a whole is utterly static. In some ways this is a good thing, in the sense that if your goal is to portray frog-as-a-bump-on-a-log you've accomplished that, but when you combine the static composition with points 1 & 2 above, the overall effect is sort of ho-hum.

I'm not bothered by the moody density of it, I quite like that aspect.

R.

Message edited by author 2010-06-15 00:07:44.
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