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05/02/2010 10:13:19 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by LVicari:
Again.. it is not the comment or criticism itself!!!
Yes I have been here long enough to know that I will get viewers disliking something I have done.Truly I don't care about that!
Read OP!!
My rant really was originally about people reciting photography "rules" and the same rhetoric I hear over and over.(not just from the peeps here on DPC) It somehow progressed to comments on this site. My Bad!
I said before I wouldn't post anything like this again. Yet here I am. I definitely should know better!
You guys continue.. |
Well, here's the conclusion of your original post:
Originally posted by LVicari:
I know I have made comments myself on some of these issues and I now realize how asinine it is.
The inconsistent commenting and observations here are annoying. I received a comment on a pic regarding lighting and how I made an error (not an error but intentional hilighting), only to see that this same person raved about recent ribbon winner with an obvious intent with the same lighting. Be consistent! Don't flip flop! |
So what has followed from that is understandable. That said, I'm with you in spirit. It's frustrating to listen to people informing other people, over and over again, that they have "broken a rule", and to see little, if any, evidence that these sticklers-for-the-"rules" have ever considered there might be a REASON why the shooter chose to do it this way.
R. |
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05/02/2010 11:43:16 AM · #52 |
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote.
David |
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05/02/2010 01:24:13 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by dbordelon:
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote.
David |
Everyone here is qualified to vote and to comment if they can be fair and consistent and have an opinion. The keys are to express your opinions as opinions and not dogma, and to assume that the photographer intended for the photo to look exactly as it is -- people tend to hate being told they've "made a mistake" when whatever it is may be (probably is) quite intentional, often obtained at great effort.
When you see something which looks like a mistake, pause for a few seconds and try to figure out why the photographer may have submitted the photo as it is. A blurry or "over-exposed" photo may be a photo-journalistic capture of a once-in-a-lifetime event; for some, the quality of the subject (and the fact that it was photographed at all) may be enough to balance out the technical flaws, and for others it wouldn't. An oddly-cropped or framed photo ("violates the rule of thirds") may have had some unacceptable object (sign, car, person ...) just out of the frame, with no possibility of re-positioning.
That doesn't mean you have to like the result, but taking care to phrase you comment as a preference or opinion will go a long way towards making your comments "helpful" to the photographer.
Here are some tutorials which may be of interest:
9 Guidelines for Giving and Receiving Feedback
Commenting For Beginners (A Non-Analytical Approach)
3 Steps for Voting on Artistic Photographs |
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05/02/2010 01:45:39 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by LVicari:
Don't comment on blown hilites in one pic and rave about another one that is mostly blown out!(by their own definition) |
Why? What if your blown highlights are crap and the result of carelessness, and the next guy's blown highlights purposefully render the image into something beautiful? (Note the "royal" you.)
I get to say what I want about anything you post up for criticism unless it personally insults you or your model. |
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05/02/2010 01:57:40 PM · #55 |
That's right, Louis. You cannot tell people what they cannot say.
-paradox is the gateway to bliss. Hung Fu. |
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05/02/2010 02:06:11 PM · #56 |
And another thing. No one should be intimidated by anything anyone says. Not newbies by oldies, unribboned by ribboned, p&s by ffdslr. And especially not high scorers by underscorers as I think happened recently in some challenge - whew! talk about damage control.
What vawendy said awhile back (more or less): we are here to try things out. It's really supposed to be a kind of party. |
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05/02/2010 06:28:23 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by dbordelon:
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote.
David |
You are most certainly imminently, and the only one, qualified to comment on how you feel about an image, about the effect the image has on you, or how it doesn't speak to you. Voting, and commenting, will teach you a great deal about photography. What better way to see how others interpret the same theme than to vote on each and every challenge you enter. When you vote and comment, you're making a report to the creator of the image as to what his/her image says to you, and the more honest you are about it, the more valuable the comment. What the creator of the image does with it from there is on him.
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05/02/2010 07:07:16 PM · #58 |
Haven't read the whole thing, but the OP doesn't help me out , that's for sure.
I came here to get advice, to learn, to better my skills in every area. I want every comment I can get. |
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05/02/2010 08:42:41 PM · #59 |
I feel the OP has put some of us in harsh light and he wants to cut off our hands and feet.....lol
I think we all get comments like that and I am sure I have probably made my share of stupid comments, I think a lot of voters spend way to much time trying to determine what is wrong with an image rather than really looking for the positives. In the past I have been guilty of looking for defects but I found when I quit looking for nit pik things to justify lower scores that it opened the door to enjoy the truly artistic images. |
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05/02/2010 08:54:05 PM · #60 |
| the one that irks me is the comment about needing to show the eyes better .... on my black and silver schnauzer who has a proper schnauzer cut which includes long eyebrows that cover most of the eyes! Bet those people which they could see more of his tail (docked) too. |
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05/02/2010 09:00:37 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by LVicari:
Again.. it is not the comment or criticism itself!!!
Yes I have been here long enough to know that I will get viewers disliking something I have done.Truly I don't care about that!
Read OP!!
My rant really was originally about people reciting photography "rules" and the same rhetoric I hear over and over.(not just from the peeps here on DPC) It somehow progressed to comments on this site. My Bad!
I said before I wouldn't post anything like this again. Yet here I am. I definitely should know better!
You guys continue.. |
Well, here's the conclusion of your original post:
Originally posted by LVicari:
I know I have made comments myself on some of these issues and I now realize how asinine it is.
The inconsistent commenting and observations here are annoying. I received a comment on a pic regarding lighting and how I made an error (not an error but intentional hilighting), only to see that this same person raved about recent ribbon winner with an obvious intent with the same lighting. Be consistent! Don't flip flop! |
So what has followed from that is understandable. That said, I'm with you in spirit. It's frustrating to listen to people informing other people, over and over again, that they have "broken a rule", and to see little, if any, evidence that these sticklers-for-the-"rules" have ever considered there might be a REASON why the shooter chose to do it this way.
R. |
Thanks Robert!! Finally!!
My goal has been achieved!!
I knew there had to be one in the crowd.
Message edited by author 2010-05-02 21:02:50. |
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05/02/2010 09:11:19 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by dbordelon:
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote. |
I'm sorry that has happened to you. If I receive a critique from a new member, I try to keep in mind that they are using this commenting as a means of learning. They may be right, they may be wrong. I have to decide for myself if the critique is valid. I should revisit some of my comments from when I first started on DPC. Might be interesting. I have never recieved one of those nasty PM's. Maybe I have just been lucky.
I would like to encourage you to continue commenting. |
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05/02/2010 09:25:19 PM · #63 |
| Oh. So that's what you wanted: fellow frustration. I get those comments in spades, buster, Comes with the ticket. |
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05/02/2010 09:36:24 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by dbordelon:
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote. |
I'm sorry that has happened to you. If I receive a critique from a new member, I try to keep in mind that they are using this commenting as a means of learning. They may be right, they may be wrong. I have to decide for myself if the critique is valid. I should revisit some of my comments from when I first started on DPC. Might be interesting. I have never recieved one of those nasty PM's. Maybe I have just been lucky.
I would like to encourage you to continue commenting. |
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i find your comment very contructive steve you know that ..i have comment on a few images but not any more i feel its not right that i comment on images that are so far advanced |
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05/02/2010 09:39:58 PM · #65 |
... all i can think is WTH? ...
people are at least commenting..from their perspective.. most of us would stab someones eyes out for comments to help improve our art.. and people are complaining about getting comments..
so what if they're not consistent in your opinion? the person commenting sees some difference, be it in subject/ matter/ composition or something- be glad they commented and told you what was in their thoughts- because the hundreds of votes I've received and lack of comments on my stuff drives me NUTS. especially when the photo is a 5.5 or under and i get like 2 or 3 comments and that's it. I cant -stand- not getting comments that explain what someone is seeing when they look at my images and explain why they voted how they did and perhaps give me some INKLING to what might improve my images in their opinions; i don't care if there is another pic with similarity that someone else might have commented and raved on and bashed me for; there has to be a -reason- for it, and I'm positive if I asked in a polite manner they might enlightened me;
perhaps people don''t know all about the subject in an image... but at least they're -commenting- on what they see, what they wish they saw more of or what emotionally moves them or for that matter, what does not move them.
wth?
anyone discouraged from commenting can just go to my profile and comment there because I -welcome- comments, constructive critiques pros'cons-whtaever idk just go leave a mark on my images so i know you either like or hate them and tell me why. what. who. when. where. how. and everything in between.
my renewal date is coming up soon = and all i can think is. 'why should i or shouldn't i renew'
lack of constructive feedback on my art is one of the shouldn't list - especially when my image gets a lower ended score. financial reasons are making me think about it more for the next couple of weeks but- seriously? frustrated as you may be by what you perceive as someone specifically bashing your image- you should be darn flattered that they stopped to comment because people like me who get next to no comments feel like our photos don't even rate for the 'i just don't like it' kind of comment.
maybe i'm venting because i have a photo that is wavering between a 4 and a 5 in a challenge with only 1 comment and well over 65 votes on it and no one has thought it worthy of a comment except ONE PERSON.... and that person LIKES the image... maybe i'm venting because I wish more people would take the time to explain what they see and or how they would have shot the image; perhaps I understand that they're not bashing my art per-say so much as expressing their taste in art which is diffrent from mine; and at least in them telling me, perhaps giving me an opportunity to be able to in the future appeal to their taste in art- or to discard their taste in art if that is so my choice.. regardless... i'd like the OPTION. I -am- upset at what i percieve to be a discouragement of comments. i could be mistaken but that's my feelings.
i might look at 2 imags and frown at one and its style but be like 'oh wow' on another that is similar but done so that i just 'oh wow' at it- no two photos are the same and even if u have the same technique as another image, your subjectmatter may or may not agree with the technique applied; step out of the box and contemplate -why- someone would comment as they did on 1 image and then diffrently on yours. if you still don't understand it, ask them in a polite manner, and explain that you are baffled, explain that you dont understand what you percieve as inconsistancy in their commenting styles/taste etc- ask them if there are other reasons they may not have mentioned in their comment that garnered a diff vote than the blue ribbon- but for all you know unless the person WROTE THEIR VOTE IN THE COMMENT - they could have given you a 9 and commented towards technical aspects that need improvement in their opinions;
it might shock people to realize this but sometimes i give 8's and critique an image in depth; explain why i would have shot it in a different way or that i wish it was more in focus or less in focus or whatever...idk - because i leave a detailed comment does not mean that I gave the image a 4 or a 2 - heck i don't even think I've given out that many 4's on this site in as many challenges as I've voted on - and some people don't vote; some people just comment for the sake of commenting; to help improve what they perceive as something that needs improvement perhaps? or to share with you insight to what might make it better in their opinions;
I'm genuinely mad right now because I would rather have comments than not have comments- even from people without cameras and no experience; they can at least tell me what moves them, what they like or dislike. what they wish they saw, what made them stop on the image. IDGA FLYING MONKEY - I would rather have a "nice photo" kind of comment so at least i know the person likes it - than no comments at all. I would rather have someone say "sorry this does not appeal to me" so at least i can ask them, 'why' at some point; what is it that doesn't appeal to you- what makes you go 'i don't like this' and i can better understand it. |
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05/02/2010 09:50:57 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by LVicari:
I know I have made comments myself on some of these issues and I now realize how asinine it is.
The inconsistent commenting and observations here are annoying. I received a comment on a pic regarding lighting and how I made an error (not an error but intentional hilighting), only to see that this same person raved about recent ribbon winner with an obvious intent with the same lighting. Be consistent! Don't flip flop! |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
So what has followed from that is understandable. That said, I'm with you in spirit. It's frustrating to listen to people informing other people, over and over again, that they have "broken a rule", and to see little, if any, evidence that these sticklers-for-the-"rules" have ever considered there might be a REASON why the shooter chose to do it this way.
R. |
Originally posted by LVicari:
Thanks Robert!! Finally!!
My goal has been achieved!!
I knew there had to be one in the crowd. |
Perhaps I am misreading the comments made by Robert in this instance but assuming that these "sticklers -for-the-rules" types have not considered that there might be a REASON why the shooter chose to do something, would it not follow that their viewpoints would always be the same, which is seemingly not the case in the present instance.
Ray
Message edited by author 2010-05-02 21:52:32. |
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05/02/2010 09:54:03 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by toddster45:
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by dbordelon:
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote. |
I'm sorry that has happened to you. If I receive a critique from a new member, I try to keep in mind that they are using this commenting as a means of learning. They may be right, they may be wrong. I have to decide for myself if the critique is valid. I should revisit some of my comments from when I first started on DPC. Might be interesting. I have never recieved one of those nasty PM's. Maybe I have just been lucky.
I would like to encourage you to continue commenting. |
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i find your comment very contructive steve you know that ..i have comment on a few images but not any more i feel its not right that i comment on images that are so far advanced |
and this- this upsets me. you are someone viewing another persons art; you have every right to comment on it; tell them what moves you- what doesn't move you. even PICASSO has some pieces that make me go "UGHHK WHAT IDIOT WOULD HANG THAT ON THEIR WALL?" but his art is in museums. you have every right to feel as you do, to comment. who cares how professional the person is or advanced it may 'seem'. subject matter might not appeal to you; technique might make you go 'uchk idk something is off about this... and perhaps if you just...tweaked this a little... it might help? perhaps not?' - its perfectly right that you comment on images - don't ever stop commenting, even if its just 'i like this' or 'i cant put my finger on it but there is something that bothers me about this image...' and try to puzzle it out-
every single living person is entitled to comment/vote/think and feel --don't quit commenting - people like me will just be like....
wth? did everyone who saw it hate it so much that they couldn't even be bothered to say why or who or when or what or why or why or why?
--sighs--
i am upset. i should shuttup now. |
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05/02/2010 09:57:12 PM · #68 |
When I think I have a decent photo, I will pin a 5x7 on my office board. I judge the photo's "goodness" or "badness" on if people stop for 10 to 15 seconds to look at it or if they simply look and walk on by. At times someone will look for 10 seconds and say how good it is. At other times someone will look for a minute or two and point out some flaw....
....either way, I feel the photo had an impact and is "good". The photo's that I pin up and people just walk on by, IMO don't even draw them in..."bad" to me !
Edit: oh...I feel the best comment is when someone stops by, looks and says..."did you take that"?
Message edited by author 2010-05-02 21:58:02. |
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05/02/2010 10:15:11 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by toddster45:
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by dbordelon:
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote. |
I'm sorry that has happened to you. If I receive a critique from a new member, I try to keep in mind that they are using this commenting as a means of learning. They may be right, they may be wrong. I have to decide for myself if the critique is valid. I should revisit some of my comments from when I first started on DPC. Might be interesting. I have never recieved one of those nasty PM's. Maybe I have just been lucky.
I would like to encourage you to continue commenting. |
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i find your comment very contructive steve you know that ..i have comment on a few images but not any more i feel its not right that i comment on images that are so far advanced |
and this- this upsets me. you are someone viewing another persons art; you have every right to comment on it; tell them what moves you- what doesn't move you. even PICASSO has some pieces that make me go "UGHHK WHAT IDIOT WOULD HANG THAT ON THEIR WALL?" but his art is in museums. you have every right to feel as you do, to comment. who cares how professional the person is or advanced it may 'seem'. subject matter might not appeal to you; technique might make you go 'uchk idk something is off about this... and perhaps if you just...tweaked this a little... it might help? perhaps not?' - its perfectly right that you comment on images - don't ever stop commenting, even if its just 'i like this' or 'i cant put my finger on it but there is something that bothers me about this image...' and try to puzzle it out-
every single living person is entitled to comment/vote/think and feel --don't quit commenting - people like me will just be like....
wth? did everyone who saw it hate it so much that they couldn't even be bothered to say why or who or when or what or why or why or why?
--sighs--
i am upset. i should shuttup now. |
I feel pretty bad right now with my photography i just cant graps it no matter what i read no matter what help i get just doesnt click ..so thats one reason i dont comment didnt mean to upset you if thats what i did i,m in the same boat with you about comments i get very few and only 1 or 2 are constructive if you see my portfolio its not pretty i,m afraid (they say the more you comment on an image the better you get) dont really understand that as you have to have some creativity to produce a very good image |
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05/02/2010 10:26:16 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by toddster45:
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by toddster45:
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by dbordelon:
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote. |
I'm sorry that has happened to you. If I receive a critique from a new member, I try to keep in mind that they are using this commenting as a means of learning. They may be right, they may be wrong. I have to decide for myself if the critique is valid. I should revisit some of my comments from when I first started on DPC. Might be interesting. I have never recieved one of those nasty PM's. Maybe I have just been lucky.
I would like to encourage you to continue commenting. |
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i find your comment very contructive steve you know that ..i have comment on a few images but not any more i feel its not right that i comment on images that are so far advanced |
and this- this upsets me. you are someone viewing another persons art; you have every right to comment on it; tell them what moves you- what doesn't move you. even PICASSO has some pieces that make me go "UGHHK WHAT IDIOT WOULD HANG THAT ON THEIR WALL?" but his art is in museums. you have every right to feel as you do, to comment. who cares how professional the person is or advanced it may 'seem'. subject matter might not appeal to you; technique might make you go 'uchk idk something is off about this... and perhaps if you just...tweaked this a little... it might help? perhaps not?' - its perfectly right that you comment on images - don't ever stop commenting, even if its just 'i like this' or 'i cant put my finger on it but there is something that bothers me about this image...' and try to puzzle it out-
every single living person is entitled to comment/vote/think and feel --don't quit commenting - people like me will just be like....
wth? did everyone who saw it hate it so much that they couldn't even be bothered to say why or who or when or what or why or why or why?
--sighs--
i am upset. i should shuttup now. |
I feel pretty bad right now with my photography i just cant graps it no matter what i read no matter what help i get just doesnt click ..so thats one reason i dont comment didnt mean to upset you if thats what i did i,m in the same boat with you about comments i get very few and only 1 or 2 are constructive if you see my portfolio its not pretty i,m afraid (they say the more you comment on an image the better you get) dont really understand that as you have to have some creativity to produce a very good image |
When you are commenting on other images you are using YOUR vision, YOUR insight, YOUR ideas. Most of the time this will help you more than the photographer whose image it is.
When someone comments on your image they are using THEIR vision, THEIR insight and THEIR ideas, basic technique info and some insight into general appeal of the image. |
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05/02/2010 10:36:46 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by toddster45:
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by toddster45:
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by dbordelon:
I'm one of the new guys that has made some inappropiate comments due to my lack of experience and I apologize for that. After reading this tread and receiving a couple PMs, I've decided to keep my mouth shut and not make any comments from now on. I'm not even sure if I'm qualified to vote. |
I'm sorry that has happened to you. If I receive a critique from a new member, I try to keep in mind that they are using this commenting as a means of learning. They may be right, they may be wrong. I have to decide for myself if the critique is valid. I should revisit some of my comments from when I first started on DPC. Might be interesting. I have never recieved one of those nasty PM's. Maybe I have just been lucky.
I would like to encourage you to continue commenting. |
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i find your comment very contructive steve you know that ..i have comment on a few images but not any more i feel its not right that i comment on images that are so far advanced |
and this- this upsets me. you are someone viewing another persons art; you have every right to comment on it; tell them what moves you- what doesn't move you. even PICASSO has some pieces that make me go "UGHHK WHAT IDIOT WOULD HANG THAT ON THEIR WALL?" but his art is in museums. you have every right to feel as you do, to comment. who cares how professional the person is or advanced it may 'seem'. subject matter might not appeal to you; technique might make you go 'uchk idk something is off about this... and perhaps if you just...tweaked this a little... it might help? perhaps not?' - its perfectly right that you comment on images - don't ever stop commenting, even if its just 'i like this' or 'i cant put my finger on it but there is something that bothers me about this image...' and try to puzzle it out-
every single living person is entitled to comment/vote/think and feel --don't quit commenting - people like me will just be like....
wth? did everyone who saw it hate it so much that they couldn't even be bothered to say why or who or when or what or why or why or why?
--sighs--
i am upset. i should shuttup now. |
I feel pretty bad right now with my photography i just cant graps it no matter what i read no matter what help i get just doesnt click ..so thats one reason i dont comment didnt mean to upset you if thats what i did i,m in the same boat with you about comments i get very few and only 1 or 2 are constructive if you see my portfolio its not pretty i,m afraid (they say the more you comment on an image the better you get) dont really understand that as you have to have some creativity to produce a very good image |
i'm upset mostly because people are quitting commenting thinking they're not qualified. you are who makes someone good or bad. your comments your thoughts your opinion. -you- the individual amid the masses are what can either raise up or bring down an image with your thoughts and opinion...
if it wasn't for the people who know nothing about the technical aspects of photography- there would be no one to appreciate it for just art as it is; or dislike and hate it as it is; that is the beauty of 'not knowing' you give a raw critique based on what you see-what you feel; and from there... you grow to understand what the photographer sees/feels/why they shot it as they did; but don't stop commenting because you feel in any way inferior - that's just.... crazytalk... if anything- critique more... you're overqualified to critique ! I haven't looked in your portfolio (yet) but i'm sure you have artistic images that will make me go 'interesting, nice, wow' every person sees things very differently- and that is what most people forget...if it wasn't for differing opinions/thoughts/etc- this site would be to put it simply- terrible. images would all look alike. everyone would always comment the same and like minded, there would be no 'art' -- the difference between an armature and a professional is mostly one gets paid and recognized... the other might be amazing, and unrecognized or too early in their time to be recognized; they might be famous after they die- who knows? but do not- i implore you - do not- stop commenting. ever. even if its just simply... 'i like this image' or 'this does not appeal to me personally..' i'd rather a simplistic comment like either of those...than none. and the thought of one less commenter- saddens me :(
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05/03/2010 02:22:10 PM · #72 |
apparently i stabbed the thread to death in my bout of anger last night? sry - but i hope my point was made?
I don't have to know the technical aspects of something to know if I think it is garbage or amazing... I don't need to be an expert on horses to wish that it was taken from a different angel or to wish i could see some aspect that is not present; or not being an expert on that breed/style of horse-riding etc- i might not even know is impossible- ie some horses do not wear shoes; some horses do; depends on where they live- if i see someone cleaning a horses hooves and wish to see the shiny shoe- for all i know there is no shoe; i am guessing that there should be... perhaps that indicates on some level what other people may be thinking or assuming about that same image but not speaking of it; making an educated comment on the image in response like "I understand your desire for an element that is not present; perhaps on another breed/style/or animal this would be possible but where as this is a __________________
to express those thoughts might sound frusterating to some to hear- i'm sure; but not everyone knows about each persons specific passions and if i were to photograph some coin from a collection of coins my grandfather had- and write 'priceless' as the title and someone else were to comment 'its a nickle...' I might find myself having to explain about its rarity and the fact that there are only so many in the world; and the sentimental value makes it priceless to me; but yes in fact they are on some level accurate about the face value written on the coin... etc... in the end; they are educated on my image; and can in turn give me the insight as to what confused them so i might be able to address it in the future so a similar mistake wont be made... (IE: nxt time i might photograph the nickle on top of a book showing its value) and maybe title it 'Grandpa's Legacy' or something to that effect -
meh- regardless... sorry for stabbing the thread in my anger; hope i didn't come across too harsh but i rarely get comments so complaints about comments just make me go "WHAT?"
its like watching someone win the lottery 10 times in a row and hearing them complain about how much $ they have when u've spent all yours playing... ya kno?
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05/03/2010 04:00:35 PM · #73 |
I totally understand. There are some members whose opinion and insight I would value, especially if an entry is bombing, but they don't like to leave negative comments for various reasons.
I leave my fair share of critiques (even when I was new on the site) and have never received one of those infamous nasty PM's. I'm not sure what I am doing differently with my comments, or if I have just been lucky. |
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05/03/2010 04:07:05 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
I totally understand. There are some members whose opinion and insight I would value, especially if an entry is bombing, but they don't like to leave negative comments for various reasons.
I leave my fair share of critiques (even when I was new on the site) and have never received one of those infamous nasty PM's. I'm not sure what I am doing differently with my comments, or if I have just been lucky. |
I bet it's all in the presentation. I think I've only received a couple comments disagreeing with the feedback I left and none were nasty. |
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05/03/2010 05:18:20 PM · #75 |
| I received three nasty comments. If it weren't for those three PMs I would be close to 10,000 comments now but I quit giving them and you know what, I enjoy this site a lot more because of it, so there. :P |
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