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04/29/2010 12:58:07 PM · #26 |
| From the position of the head in both shots, it look like he's being lynched. |
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04/29/2010 01:15:56 PM · #27 |
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04/29/2010 01:37:25 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Don't think there was a huge branch up there. Think bits sticking into the composition. Also don't think of the branch travelling from left to right across the canvas, but rather moving "into" the canvas. I'm pretty comfortable I didn't do anything illegal. |
But you also took out the rope, right? From looking at the outtake you posted, there should be a very visible line of rope coming up out of the purple balloon in the shot you entered, which was removed.
I'm not trying to get you in trouble; I'm just pointing out something that you might want to be aware of for other "advanced editing" challenges, so that you don't get a future entry DQ'ed. |
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04/29/2010 01:41:00 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by mzrowan:
... I'm just pointing out something that you might want to be aware of for other "advanced editing" challenges, so that you don't get a future entry DQ'ed. |
Ummmm....have you actually LOOKED at the good Doc's profile?!
I doubt he doesn't know how validation works. He-he. |
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04/29/2010 01:41:38 PM · #30 |
Have you noticed who you're talking to? I'm pretty sure the doc has a decent handle on what's legal at this point. In other words, don't waste your time on him. He's too far gone. :)
Ha! Beat to the punch.
Message edited by author 2010-04-29 13:42:23. |
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04/29/2010 01:46:03 PM · #31 |
Hehe. Thanks guys. Yes, I cloned the rope between the balloon and the top of the image. It's literally 6-8 pixels. I did not clone the rope amongst the balloons so it is really still there (just not obvious). I feel comfortable with it, although I do understand your point. It was a risk, but only a small one and I think if it went for validation, it would pass. So far no DQs in 264 challenges. (knock on wood)
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04/29/2010 02:05:57 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I cloned the rope between the balloon and the top of the image. It's literally 6-8 pixels. I did not clone the rope amongst the balloons so it is really still there (just not obvious). I feel comfortable with it, although I do understand your point. It was a risk, but only a small one and I think if it went for validation, it would pass. |
Reposted from a conversation where someone else questioned this photo (my own interpretation, of course)...
Originally posted by scalvert:
Nobody's requested validation on it, so we haven't seen the original, but a rope in that spot would have been trivial— a thin 1/16" line from the top of the purple balloon. There's some misconception about what constitutes "changing a viewer's description." We go by visual prominence, not physics. If someone would notice at a glance that an element is missing, then that's changing the description, and this one would be no more noticeable than a power line or twig. As a basic guideline, anything you can't see in the thumbnail is probably fine to clone out. |
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04/29/2010 02:43:42 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Ummmm....have you actually LOOKED at the good Doc's profile?!
I doubt he doesn't know how validation works. He-he. |
Oh, um, I see. Whoops.
Well, I guess *I'm* the one who learned something new today about what is and isn't allowed in advanced editing. |
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04/29/2010 03:11:17 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Hehe. Thanks guys. Yes, I cloned the rope between the balloon and the top of the image. It's literally 6-8 pixels. I did not clone the rope amongst the balloons so it is really still there (just not obvious). I feel comfortable with it, although I do understand your point. It was a risk, but only a small one and I think if it went for validation, it would pass. So far no DQs in 264 challenges. (knock on wood) |
Lord...did you actually type a hard copy of that statement...better find alot of wood to knock on...(of course just kidding) |
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04/29/2010 03:36:06 PM · #35 |
Wellll... I for one thought hard and long about the dastardly goings-on, and propose that:
- I will take over the good doc's 25 highest scoring pic's (because this is my idea)
- The rest of the treasure chest can be auctioned up between my fellow struggling DCP'ers
- All his camera equipment be confiscated as dangerous weapons of mass ribbonation
- He not be allowed to return before us poor slobs have all ribboned more than 21 times each |
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04/29/2010 03:52:35 PM · #36 |
Not to whine about it, but it seems to me that supportive arguments like the number of pixels cloned out or "1/16" line" seem to be used selectively around DPC. And I *can* see the rope in the thumbnail, quite prominently. However, at least this will be a good example of things that are allowed to hang onto for the future (not that I'll ever have a model hanging by a rope, but you know what I mean).
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04/29/2010 04:02:21 PM · #37 |
Erm. Still puzzled: does Jason think a shot should score higher if there is some question/wonder about how it was made? Ach, sometimes hard to let go of something one has so cleverly devised and not quite bent the rules for. The lost penny.
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04/29/2010 04:07:50 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by citymars:
Not to whine about it, but it seems to me that supportive arguments like the number of pixels cloned out or "1/16" line" seem to be used selectively around DPC. And I *can* see the rope in the thumbnail, quite prominently. However, at least this will be a good example of things that are allowed to hang onto for the future (not that I'll ever have a model hanging by a rope, but you know what I mean). |
The thumbnail in this thread is one of the outtakes; the specific reason why he did not use it in the challenge IS because the rope is too prominent. I promise you, the amount of rope in the entered version, pre-cloning, was minuscule. You'd have to work real hard to see it in a thumb.
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04/29/2010 04:23:39 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
The thumbnail in this thread is one of the outtakes; the specific reason why he did not use it in the challenge IS because the rope is too prominent. I promise you, the amount of rope in the entered version, pre-cloning, was minuscule. You'd have to work real hard to see it in a thumb. |
Okay, point taken. Thanks. |
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04/29/2010 06:31:19 PM · #40 |
the lighting is so-so. the crop is too tight on the balloons at the top.
the balloons should be the subject, and to me the the kid is. yeah the balloons are why he's " floating " up, but not prominant enough IMO.
on my screen it looks oversharpened.
good concept ( although a common one as well ). an OK result.
ETA - if you already were going to have to clone out branch tips. why not have left some space at top ?
Message edited by author 2010-04-29 18:32:56.
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